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Comment on Alan Wake 2: The Lake House | Expansion launch trailer in ~games
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Comment on AI is here. What now? in ~tech
PancakeCats I would like to stake my claim that it does steal from artists. Training an ai to create works of art based on others peoples works of art without their consent or fair recompense is stealing. You...I would like to stake my claim that it does steal from artists. Training an ai to create works of art based on others peoples works of art without their consent or fair recompense is stealing. You know that if the situation was reversed, these companies pulling the bs wouldnt think twice to litigate in response. If i took all of microsofts ip and ran it through ai image gen to make and sell my own products, im sure Microsoft would call the lawyers when they found out. But i digress because that is up to interpretation.
What i find not to be up to interpretation is that it is stealing jobs from artists already. Big companies are already using it to do art for promotional material. See this debacle with microsoft. Thats an artist that lost a gig, or even an employed position at another company. Here is a video about a professional graphic design artist getting layed off after find out his company had been training an image gen AI on HIS art and work for months or years. He was literally replaced by an AI that is designed to copy his style. Those are just the first two examples off the top of my head, but this going to get worse. Publicly traded companies will take the path of least resistance, and paying a licensing fee is far cheaper than employing a real human being.
I also find your defense of waymo to be a bit dismissive of the workers it would replace. Known exploiters they may be, Uber and Lyft did create jobs for a lot of people that were otherwise struggling to get anything. It may not be a good job, or a fairly structured job, but its better than nothing. Real people still see real benefit from being employed (contract workers, not proper employment) through them. Nobody sees any benefit from waymo except the people at the head of the company. You are taking these jobs away from already vulnerable and exploited people. I am electronics-pilled guy, and no matter how many times i get impressed that waymo cars are real and functional, its always swallowed by the fact that in the end, the only meaningful thing these cars change is putting another human out of work.
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Comment on <deleted topic> in ~life.men
PancakeCats I think the democratic establishment certainly doesnt help things, seeing as most of the old guard are out of touch, ethically questionable, and slippery tongued at best. Additionally in my...I think the democratic establishment certainly doesnt help things, seeing as most of the old guard are out of touch, ethically questionable, and slippery tongued at best. Additionally in my experience, people often tend to either take their parents politics or the opposite, so i think a lot of men who have grown up causually disinterested in politics, subconsciously take a lot negative associations and biases their parents may have with these democrats. At least this was true for me and a lot of the guys in my area and social sphere. It leads to a base line distrust in these figures and resistance towards their messaging. Conservativism and right wing policy generally focuses on keeping things as they are or going back to how they were. This is much more comfortable for politcally inexperienced men, beacuse the left leans towards change and progress, and change leads to scary unknowns, and changing societal standards that they are still struggling to understand their place in and how to navigate.
I personally feel like in person is actually where they will feel the most grace and leniency towards their presence. This is obviously anecdotal and it seems there is enough people saying otherwise in this thread to disprove this theory, but i will stand by it for my own personal experience. I have found throughout my life, even in high school, when challenging each others ideals in person, people are lot more empathetic as a baseline. I had a lot of grace from from different social circles despite my vile beliefs at the time, because i honestly believe they wanted to engage in honest discussion and promote internal change in people who held these vile people. Its a lot easier to sympathize and empathize when you have an actual person who you can read the facial cues, body language, and tone. And because its a shared physical space, i find the vitriol is toned down because there can be a physical reaction. Granted, you wont often see this because of how terminally online a lot of us are, and how the online is increasing in younger people.
Which leads me to the final space, online, which i truly think is the worst offender here. I could go on all day about how the internet is one of the best and worst things to happen to our species. Instant communication but none of the nuance leads to both greater societal progress and divide. You cant see that person, can't feel the weight of your words on each other, you dont know their life or experience or biases unless they explocitly announce them. And with all i described in the last essay, i think all of this leads to the left being explosively hostile towards anyone they perceive as a threat or other or opposition online.
Meanwhile young men and boys who are chronically online are often targeted by the altright pipeline from a young age, even in subtle ways. Jingoistic video games and films to instill a sence of nationalism. Borderline brainwashing patriotism and nationalism into our children in public education settings. The ever present and peddled fairytale of "The American Dream." All of these build a base level of right wing tendencies in young men, who are then ostracized online for not being on the left, or attacked for simply being a man. Not saying men dont deserve to get called on their shit, but i do think people are often blanket assuming the worst from a lot of men, and young men without the wisdom or life experience to see why people feel this way will view it as an attack on them personally.Additionally, a lot of left spaces, especially in younger circles, are heavily moderated (for good reason) or private and exclusionary towards people who dont fit criteria. I personally think this can be a good thing, as long you have a public space for people to engage with. If all the dialogue from progressive or left leaning people is tucked away in private discords or in hard to access/discover forums, the only open discussion young men will find to engage with is from grifters and right wingers. Even if the reason they are being denied acess to these spaces isn't necessarily just because they are a man, that is how they will likely percieve it, as it is at least a factor to a lot of the base on the left. I think all of this will lead them to feeling like the only sense of belonging they have is with fellow white men, and cause more and more people to slip into this rabbit hole of extremist and bigoted thinking.
As for possible solutions, i dont think there is gonna be any easy answer to these issues, nor will it be a quick issue to resolve when we do get an answer. I think it would certainly go a long way to make an attempt to meaningfully egage with young men of all spectrums, assuming they can actually bring a good faith debate to the table. It would help to actually teach them as well. A lot of people will respond to genuine questions or concerns of young men with "Its not my responsibility to educate you" which may be true to an extent, sure. No one has to educate men, but i personally feel like we do have a collective responsibility to educate each other as a society. Without it, we would not have any of the societal progress we enjoy and fight for today. But no matter your view on that, I feel its clear that this attitude also contributes to the isolation these men will feel in left leaning circles online.
Another long one lol. I hope that was worthwhile read for you and a satisfying answer to some extent. Again this is a lot of conjecture and personal experience from my own life, others may challenge some or all of this and i welcome any good faith discussion!
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Comment on <deleted topic> in ~life.men
PancakeCats I do think a lot of spaces on the left have been getting more hostile to people they view as outside of their own, and having experienced this myself, I have some thoughts as to why this seems to...I do think a lot of spaces on the left have been getting more hostile to people they view as outside of their own, and having experienced this myself, I have some thoughts as to why this seems to be happening, from an American pov. I consider myself pretty radically leftwing, and i try to stay informed but idk man im kind of dumb, a lot of this is conjecture and not anything i have hard sources and numbers behind, just life experience as ive lived it. Also long as fuck lol.
I think really this comes from the innate tribalism in humans, and the exacerbated consequences of this in the two party system we exist in. Unfortunately, unlike most other civilized democratic systems, americans have only two political groups to represent all 350+ million of us living here. This means a large majority of those politically conscious people here probably dont even really like their party, but stick with it because its not the guys they like even less. There are no niche parties for people to separate into, leading to these parties essentially becoming "teams" to most people. You're with us or you're against us. Americans are already tribalistic enough with our sports teams, leading to an unhealthy relationship with our political parties as well, with a basis in umempathetic arrogant competition.
Next, you have news media. The last forty years especially, 24 hour media has been thriving on divisive and inciting content, excaberated by the rise of the Internet. Tensions are high already, the country is large and relatively seperated from each other, and people profit off the division, so they gleefully fuel the fire. As time goes on, media gets increasingly unscrupulous in its reporting, leaning less on ethical journalism, and more on reactionary divisive clickbait headline content. And few things get the American people riled up like Sports and Politics.
All that to say, in recent years we as a people have been a powderkeg. With the rise of the internet, we have increasingly lost empathy towards each other, because its a lot easier to not empathize with someone who isnt existing in your space, and whatever previous veneer of polite debate has fallen to slinging insults and going for personal attack at all opportunities. Now throw in the rise of progressive culture globally and the steady march toward authoritarian facism exhibited in the leaders of the American right.
People on the right traditionally arent very progressive people, and they might not be facist, but because of the two party system, they have nowhere to go. They have to choose on compromising personal ideology or their personal ethical standards. Most people compromise on the latter first.
People on the left are generally progressive, and even though our leadership is old and sluggish at best, might hold views i disagree with immensely or support causes i am vehemently against (see funding isreal and their genocide), and might not have much more of a backbone than any other politician, but they also arent openly promoting the fall of american democracy and the slow descent into fascism, and they arent trying to legislate queer communites, containing real people feeling real emotions and living real lives, out of existence. I have to choose between compromising my personal ideologies, or my personal ethical standards. Like most people i chose the latter, chosing to support someone contributing to things i vehemently despise, but at least they arent advocating for facism and pushing to legislate people out of existence.I have never met an LGBTQ person identifying with the right, and while they do apparently exist, I think its safe to say that the overwhelming majority of queer people fall into the left. And due to the way the right treats and views minorities, i think its fairly safe to say the majority of their base are white males. This association is bound to be made in our brains, because our brains excel at seeing patterns, even if we conjure our own data points from our own biases to see them.
Queer communties are actively staring down the barrel of oppression and violence, and are reactingly strongly, rightfully so. This is now actually life and death for them. The wrong people win the election and its very likely they will be criminalized for existing within the presidential term. This leads to righteous anger and lashing out at the right, and those who even tangentially support it or figures in the party. Because every single person who continues to support that party in anyway are supporting their extinction. And its not just queer people themselves feeling this fear and fury, its also everyone else in their lives who cares for, loves, and accepts them as they are. Afraid of seeing those they love humilitiated, beaten, killed, ostracized, incarcerated. Im a heteroflexible white guy, im really not that scared for being targeted myself, but im horrified for my loved ones who arent so priveledged, and everyone else that would be affected should the right continue gaining momentum and legislative power. And the face of the right are by and large old white men, or young white men with a few women and people of color thrown in, though, in my experience people tend to use them more as a token, and they dont have much substantial presence in the party media. Which is to say, white men are the face of the party trying to bring about facism and eradicate queer communities, as such are treated less favorably from the getgo.
Indifference to these atrocities is still implicit support, so men who dont even ascribe to all the craziness but dont disavow the right are treated just as poorly. These men feel like they have no place on the left, and fall further to the right and extreme ideologies peddled online. Its a self eating snake, ever widening the divide between us because all the people who could work to alleviate these tensions profit off of them, and thus have financial incentive to continue sewing divide.
When I was a teenager i fell into the alt right circles online bc i was a lonely anxious teenage boy, and felt i didnt belong anywhere. It was easy to see others like me and feel accepted as i was. But when i had an empathy breakthrough and was able to see the harm i had supported and the vile words i had stood behind, i wisened up and escaped that sphere of influence and have been trying to make up for it since. Apologizing to those i had wronged or bullied in anyway, and voting to support policies that support helping people, being more active about checking bigot bs. Small game i know, but its a journey. I was lucky enough to have friends on similar journeys, had significant others who were progressive and imparted that on me in ways big and small, live in a progressive area, and find the right messages at the right times to get me where i am, and most guys just arent that lucky. They fall into these circles, and it pushes them away from people who dont share their views, causing them to slip further and further into the craziness. And now i find myself feeling this anger, this hostility, described in your post from time to time. Because "if you're not with us you're against us" is a very easy position to slip into. Its takes effort to meaningfully engage with opposing views and groups, and many dont have that effort to give, leading to even more division. Its a real mess and i fear it will get worse before it gets better. But thats just like, my opinion maaan.
If you read all that, thank you for taking the effort to meaningfully engage with me. I would love to hear thoughts and/or criticisms. Like i said its all off the cuff reactionary brainzaps to the discussion here, so sorry if it made no sense or is full of holes :^]
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
PancakeCats I agree here, the destruction and environmental play is what sets it apart. It also makes the game feel like its truly a fresh take on shooters, an actual innovation in the genre space. Especially...I agree here, the destruction and environmental play is what sets it apart. It also makes the game feel like its truly a fresh take on shooters, an actual innovation in the genre space. Especially compared to most other multiplayer shooters, which are usually the last popular game but reskinned with a new feature here or there.
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Comment on ROMhacking.net moves to news only, database and file archive released to Internet Archive in ~games
PancakeCats Agreed, its a real bummer. Especially reading through the post, hearing that he had a group of bad actors dox and attempt to ruin his life is so disheartening. I wish we had a better middle ground...Agreed, its a real bummer. Especially reading through the post, hearing that he had a group of bad actors dox and attempt to ruin his life is so disheartening. I wish we had a better middle ground between impossible to find and fully known to the greater net, so we could still have accessible small sites like this without a group of stinkers coming in to ruin it for everyone. The net isnt built for that anymore, but we can dream. If anyone has any recommendations for alternative hosts of this type of content, id love to hear some. I find that with the rise of making discord, too many if these projects are isolated until they blow up or get taken down.
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
PancakeCats I had a pretty big phase with the finals. Me and a buddy really got into it for a few months, before we got out outskilled by the majority playerbase a few months in. The destruction is some of...I had a pretty big phase with the finals. Me and a buddy really got into it for a few months, before we got out outskilled by the majority playerbase a few months in. The destruction is some of the best ive seen in a multiplayer game, and the way the environment is constantly malleable and being manipulated makes the game trigger this creative problem solving part of my brain. Encounters with foes are desperate and feel just long enough to always feel like i had a chance, depending on the Character Class i was playing. Combat is unpredictable, and fortification feels important but not overpowered. The new items ive seen added seem fun, but im really waiting for some more interesting game modes to pull me back in. Definitely reccomend to any fans of Shooters though.
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Comment on What gaming genre could use a renaming? in ~games
PancakeCats A gaming podcast I listen to, Into the Aether, discussed Metroidvania moniker at length in an episode a year or two back, and landed on Gatepunk to describe metroidvainias, which while slightly...A gaming podcast I listen to, Into the Aether, discussed Metroidvania moniker at length in an episode a year or two back, and landed on Gatepunk to describe metroidvainias, which while slightly humorous, i think aptly describes the genre. In my opinion, a metroidvania is a game that focuses around exploration of a large connected space, often with a focus on returning visits to old areas and/or shortcuts, which "gates" progression via knowledge or items, etc. To me, this perfectly describes most games we would attribute to the genre.
For example, Metroid uses items to gate progression, getting the morphball allows you to access areas you could not access normally otherwise. Axiom Verge gives you new weapons that interact with the enemies and environments in new ways. On the other end of the spectrum, Tunic more often uses knowledge of the game itself to gate progression. There are several abilities you have from the start of the game, only the game doesnt tell you how to preform them until you find the corresponding manual page or visual clue. For a more recent example that masterfully executes knowledge gates, Animal Well comes to mind, which uses items wonderfully as well, but really focuses on knowledge of the games systems to gate progress. A lot of the good Metroidvanias do both of these well, but usually focus more towards one of the two.
All that to say, the cult classic licensed IP tie-in game, "Scooby-Doo, Night of 100 Frights" is a gatepunk game through and through. Large connected map with distinctly themed zones and levels, shortcuts between them, items that unlock progress gates and open up minor puzzles in previous areas, varied and distinct bosses, and techniques you have from the start that the game teaches you how to apply in different ways throughout the game. Yes, I have been thinking far too much about this game for far too many years, and yes, I will die on this hill.
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
PancakeCats I've been putting time into both these games lately myself! Although ive been working through Abiotic Factor with a friend, which definitely helps with some of the organization of clutter and...I've been putting time into both these games lately myself! Although ive been working through Abiotic Factor with a friend, which definitely helps with some of the organization of clutter and crafting. As an aside there is also a crafting bench upgrade you can make that pulls directly from storage, making crafting waayyy easier and organization optional. We just got into the second large zone and just got that upgrade, but not sure when it would be available progression wise. Absolutely loving the game though, as a big fan of half life and burnt out fan of survival games, AF is the first survival game to hook me in this way in years. Im thinking about it when not playing, excited to see what fun new recipes and gadgets we'll cook up, and the atmosphere is absolutely scrumptious. When the lights go out there is an oppressive deafening silence, and through out the days and nights you'll hear far off screams, groans and explosions, all of which add to the atmosphere of the game.
Which segues into Skald: Against The Black Priory, a game ive been following for years after seeing it on a Twitter Screenshot Saturday, where indie game devs show sceenshots of their work and share some progress on their project. Picked it up as soon as it dropped, and boy was it worth the wait. This game is absolutely dripping with atmosphere. The art style has just the right amount of grunge to make everything just slightly unsettling. The music is understated but really haunts the soundscape, as does the rest of the atmospheric sound design. I might just be easy to please, but I really do recommend headphones for both these games. It also really scratches this itch for a more crunchy old school rpg ive been feeling lately, but has so much QoL and modern design mixed in that makes it almost painless to play and slip into long sessions with it. The dialogue, both player and NPC, is pretty concise in my time so far, but still really adds to the world and vibe the game is building up. And although im still rather early, the character building with the different feat trees for loads of classes all seem interesting and worthwhile.
All in all, very please with both games, and im glad to see someone talking about them both on this thread bc they definitely deserve recognition. Hope you stick with Abiotic Factor, it only gets better from what ive experienced so far.
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Comment on Cartoons such as Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, or Avatar? in ~tv
PancakeCats I will say, Adventure Time definitely starts to get better and a little more mature around season 3 onwards. Still a lot of good stuff in the first two seasons but i feel like it really hits its...I will say, Adventure Time definitely starts to get better and a little more mature around season 3 onwards. Still a lot of good stuff in the first two seasons but i feel like it really hits its stride and grows out of its lol random goofy wacky phase into something a little more refined and unique to its own vibe and identity. The episodes are all short too, 10m a pop, so try to give it time if you dont exactly vibe with the initial outings.
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Comment on The New York Times sues OpenAI, Microsoft over the use of its stories to train chatbots in ~tech
PancakeCats I think the real issue with your take here, for me, is that you're treating AI like it's a human in these examples, with the implication that AI can actually interpret and make original texts,...I think the real issue with your take here, for me, is that you're treating AI like it's a human in these examples, with the implication that AI can actually interpret and make original texts, art, analysis etc. I admit I'm not super well versed with the most recent developments in AI scene, but at the end of the day, it's all just 1's and 0's, and I think it lacks the actual ability to truly create something.
A human being will generally still put something of themselves into the art they produce, even if they obsessively analysed a book series before writing their own. AI cannot do that, as they have no experiences of their own to draw from, only the works of other humans being fed to it. Therefore, any perceived similarities go from fair use to theft pretty quick imo. I think the difference between a human who obsessively consumes media in an effort to produce their own work, and an AI obsessively consuming media to do a job it was asked to do, is a pretty big one that invites these discussions about whether this truly legal or not. Just my two cents.
I'm certainly no expert though and I'm writing this just after waking up, so maybe it's all a bunch of hooplah. Forgive me if that's the case.
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Comment on Love songs about established, long term relationships in ~music
PancakeCats "In Spite of Ourselves" by John Prine and Iris Dement. Link to the song. It's a funny and sappy love song that my partner and I always bust out into song when it comes on in the car."In Spite of Ourselves" by John Prine and Iris Dement. Link to the song. It's a funny and sappy love song that my partner and I always bust out into song when it comes on in the car.
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
PancakeCats For me the Outer Wilds was truly a one of a kind game experience. I was utterly absorbed in the game and the mystery and exploring these different planets and the way it all fits together. I'd say...For me the Outer Wilds was truly a one of a kind game experience. I was utterly absorbed in the game and the mystery and exploring these different planets and the way it all fits together. I'd say make sure to really explore that first planet as it has a lot of threads to tug on. After that just fly around look for things that look man made or interesting and bust out that scanner. The clues will come. Also always listen for music.
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Comment on Starfield - what are your thoughts? in ~games
PancakeCats I definitely agree there is some real vitriol in this thread. Interesting to see as I haven't seen much discourse here that wasn't exceedingly polite, but this thread is full of people talking...I definitely agree there is some real vitriol in this thread. Interesting to see as I haven't seen much discourse here that wasn't exceedingly polite, but this thread is full of people talking down to to each other and being a lil rude. Guess people just get real passionate about video games, no matter where you go.
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Comment on What choice should I make at the end of Baldur's Gate 3's second act? in ~games
PancakeCats I've definitely been guilty of looking up outcomes to major decisions like this before, but especially in the last few years I try to play games as blind as possible. The choices are supposed to...I've definitely been guilty of looking up outcomes to major decisions like this before, but especially in the last few years I try to play games as blind as possible. The choices are supposed to feel impactful because of how you see the results of your choice ripple out. And especially for BG3, I've been enjoying that experience in a way I haven't in a while.
Spoilers for end of act 2
My character actually tried to resist the transformation but could not beat his check. Used 4 inspiration but dice said no. Instead of reloading I decided to embrace it and just roll with it. I've even changed his class and personality in dialogue to reflect more partial illithid appropriate inclinations. It's been a really fun dynamic story shift for my character, and it's all because I failed a roll. Looking forward to seeing how everything plays out. Still working my way through Act 3.
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Comment on What games have you been playing, and what's your opinion on them? in ~games
PancakeCats I have been on a similar journey to you, and finding I much prefer if I go in blind with most forms of media lately, but especially games, especially if it's a semi known quantity. I think modern...I have been on a similar journey to you, and finding I much prefer if I go in blind with most forms of media lately, but especially games, especially if it's a semi known quantity. I think modern marketing for games (and movies especially) gives wayyy too much away. I have found the discovery of the mechanics and plot far more rewarding than knowing them in anticipation. Gives back some of the childlike wonder I felt playing games as a young kid.
Now that said, I did read a review for Starfield as I have been a little doubtful of Bethesda entries after the last few, and even that spoiled a lot for me, so props to you for staying in the dark. Hope that when you finally get your hands on it, the wait pays off.
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Comment on US movie-theater behavior has gone off the reels in ~movies
PancakeCats This is an interesting point that I hadn't thought of but definitely seems to have some truth to it. I wonder if longer life expectancy has anything to do with that? The last few generations grew...I really feel like today's adults have collectively stopped taking the adult role in society. As if the expectation to step up and step in was never placed on us as much as in earlier times.
This is an interesting point that I hadn't thought of but definitely seems to have some truth to it. I wonder if longer life expectancy has anything to do with that? The last few generations grew up with the elders not ever really dying, and with that had less opportunities for stepping up in the leadership roles in their careers and communities. Maybe with that the societal etiquette took a downturn because as the generations grew older they never really had to fill those roles? I don't have anything to back that up, just pure conjecture.
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Comment on <deleted topic> in ~tech
PancakeCats I think it's been said on this site before, but I'll say it too. I might be very cynical but part of me believes this really is intentional sabotaging on musks part. This is very conspiracy theory...I think it's been said on this site before, but I'll say it too. I might be very cynical but part of me believes this really is intentional sabotaging on musks part. This is very conspiracy theory crackpot america centric talk but the countries slow descent into fascist corporatocracy is something musk takes part in, having previously declared himself to be voting for Republicans in future elections back in 2022.
Then he up and buys Twitter, a major social media network that I personally think was crucial to the 2020 election and 2022 midterm(to a lesser extent) having the turnout they did. It was a great way to try and mobilize younger voters and try and show them why they need to vote and rally them towards that cause. But now one of the richest men in the world who just switched his voting preferences on a whim bought a major social media network and is now tanking it. He's making seemingly all the wrong decisions, but what he's really doing is making Twitter an unuseable (rate limiting, culling all the staff leading to instability, other bad decisons) cesspit of misinformation(paying for verification), and breaking up a chunk of voting power by disrupting a major method of communication amongst younger folk. People who aren't super internet savvy might be on Twitter, but they likely won't go to Mastodon. And all the alternatives popping up inherently mean a divided online populace, which means less effective messaging. All of this with the next big election just around the corner, figuratively speaking. The timing is seemingly perfect.
All that having been said though, I do also realize that the world doesn't revolve exclusively around what goes on in my countries government. Elon is perfectly fine to believe what he wants to believe and vote how he likes, but I do not think one human being should be able to buy a major communication platform on a whim like this. It's too much power.
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Comment on PS5 and Xbox Series closing in on three years of use in ~games
PancakeCats Personally I would hold on to the PS2 as a backup just in case. As you may or may not know, launch PS3s are notorious for breaking down, and it's not easy to replace them or repair them. Which is...Personally I would hold on to the PS2 as a backup just in case. As you may or may not know, launch PS3s are notorious for breaking down, and it's not easy to replace them or repair them. Which is a real shame beacause having all three PlayStations in one would have been the dream man. I think Sony thought it was too good to be true as well, because they never tried it again.
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Comment on Netflix adds nearly six million subscribers amid password sharing crackdown in Q2 in ~tv
PancakeCats It's so insane that more people subscribed to this. It's gonna lead to this type of shit across all the other platforms too. When Netflix showed you can actually benefit from the password sharing...It's so insane that more people subscribed to this. It's gonna lead to this type of shit across all the other platforms too. When Netflix showed you can actually benefit from the password sharing crackdown it's only a matter of time before the rest of the streaming services follow suit. Really disheartening stuff.
As far as im aware, the deal for these sort of situations is that Remedy doesnt see a dime until Epic has made all their money back, and considering the games dev costs of over €50million, and not all to stellar sales numbers being at just over a million as of February of this year, i think its fairly safe to say its only Epic getting that money, not Remedy. Besides, practically speaking Remedy already got paid. They got fully funded development for the game, the brand recognition and prestige of having one of the finest artistic works of the past few years.
And this might just be my american pov showing here, but its not like the actual devs would be seeing that money individually. Maybe a small bonus, if they're lucky? They got paid their salary for the length of game development, and hopefully secured a spot for future projects based on the critical success of the game. Any extra profits would usually go to the people at the top or the publisher. That said, Remedy is a finnish company, they might have a much better pay and wealth distribution structure there than what is standard over here. But i think its safe to say that the devs would care far more about what people thought of their art, rather than the extra money they likely arent even going to see.