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Comment on WHO classifies 'gaming disorder' as mental health condition in ~games
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda It's funny how lost you get responding to those damn orange inbox replies, you forget the scope of the thread. Haha.It's funny how lost you get responding to those damn orange inbox replies, you forget the scope of the thread. Haha.
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda The quote you're referencing makes sense. A forum has no goals or quotas to meet, just discussion for the sake of discussion. I don't think we need peer reviewed studies to prove that.The quote you're referencing makes sense. A forum has no goals or quotas to meet, just discussion for the sake of discussion. I don't think we need peer reviewed studies to prove that.
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda I never understood why we want to treat everyone equally and then lump everyone into buckets to treat them unequally. I think we have a number of diverse opinions (we have a ~lgbt) and by giving...I never understood why we want to treat everyone equally and then lump everyone into buckets to treat them unequally. I think we have a number of diverse opinions (we have a ~lgbt) and by giving out more invites we will inherently grow a more diverse populace.
Trying to meet quotas will just make us no better than the other sites like Reddit.
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda Why is it that these threads asking for diversity so often feel like they're saying "there's too many white and straight people"? Now I feel unwelcome! I'm all for diversity if it's organic, but...Why is it that these threads asking for diversity so often feel like they're saying "there's too many white and straight people"? Now I feel unwelcome!
I'm all for diversity if it's organic, but I'm not going to go out of my way to set quotas. If we want to stop people from seeing color we have to stop seeking it out.
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda So just because other people experience hardships that makes it okay for them to dismiss the opinions and thoughts of others who haven't? Just because white cis blah blah people haven't...So just because other people experience hardships that makes it okay for them to dismiss the opinions and thoughts of others who haven't? Just because white cis blah blah people haven't experienced hardships doesn't mean they should be dismissed. Two wrongs don''t make a right especially if that's invoking punishment on a group that had nothing to do with the repression and now will want to distance themselves from your cause.
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda I mean since you mentioned me I'm just going to point out that I said I saw how this could fit into both categories. I said it somewhere here too it's all context and framing when posting these...I mean since you mentioned me I'm just going to point out that I said I saw how this could fit into both categories. I said it somewhere here too it's all context and framing when posting these threads. Clearly a topic primarily about ~lgbt belong there, same with ~sports and ~television. I feel like there should be some order and expectation to where content is in the site. But if these things are used for a bigger ~talk discussion then I see how it could belong in that Tilde.
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Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda I mean its all about the framing. If I saw a thread in ~talk about a corrupt FIFA official while we had ~sports I would be confused because that clearly belong in sports. But, a thread about... -
Comment on The current problem with ~ in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda I'm of the opinion if I want some quick news based on my interests, media, links, images, etc. I go to Reddit. Reddit's massive community curates that pretty easily and there's decent comments to...I'm of the opinion if I want some quick news based on my interests, media, links, images, etc. I go to Reddit. Reddit's massive community curates that pretty easily and there's decent comments to go along with it - not much room for discussion though.
Here, I find, a better setup and community - at the moment anyway - for facilitating discussion. So, I think that links that are posted should really facilitate some sort of conversation. Proper tags, perhaps a brief text post by the OP, quality link submissions to begin with, etc. would be a good thing to have to help encourage better discussions.
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Comment on On making a fresh start in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda You shouldn't interpret malice because I was never making a claim about racial statistics? I never made precise claims about how they were made either. I was actually making a point about how...You shouldn't interpret malice because I was never making a claim about racial statistics? I never made precise claims about how they were made either. I was actually making a point about how statistics are taken out of context, citing the racial statistic often taken out of content because it's based on socioeconomic factors. But with how out of context my arguments were taken here I'm not surprised it's been so twisted lol.
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Comment on Tildes Extended in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda Sweet, glad to hear it! Thanks for all your hard work.Sweet, glad to hear it! Thanks for all your hard work.
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Comment on Tildes Extended in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda Haha are you me? I switch tabs and windows and when I finally get back I'm down a comment blackhole and have to go figure out what I was reading or just give up and re-read it all. I hope on...Haha are you me? I switch tabs and windows and when I finally get back I'm down a comment blackhole and have to go figure out what I was reading or just give up and re-read it all. I hope on mobile this wont take up too much valuable reading space, though? That would be my only concern with any sort of sticky header thing.
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Comment on How do we tackle this epidemic of misinformation in ~talk
ContemplativePanda Yep, because a lot of people just don't care about the truth. They want whatever narrative they currently hold to be true and will remain ignorant to make it so.Yep, because a lot of people just don't care about the truth. They want whatever narrative they currently hold to be true and will remain ignorant to make it so.
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Comment on How do we tackle this epidemic of misinformation in ~talk
ContemplativePanda Honestly I'd like to believe that I filter out most of the crap Facebook sends. I certainly try to. The only reason I even paid attention to this video was because I had seen it before and knew it...Honestly I'd like to believe that I filter out most of the crap Facebook sends. I certainly try to. The only reason I even paid attention to this video was because I had seen it before and knew it wasn't under Trump - or at least I suspected there was fuckery afoot. I honestly don't use Facebook much, and probably will continue to decrease my usage of it because when I do go on there and see stuff like this I just wonder how we got to where we are.
The problem is that sometimes even with a convincing argument people don't care because they never wanted truth in the first place. They really just wanted to be lied to because it feels better that way. I don't know what to do about that.
Great, thanks!
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Comment on On making a fresh start in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda "And, given how absolutely prevalent this behavior is among internet alt-righters, it certainly does give rise to the suspicion that the person in question is not acting in good faith." That does..."And, given how absolutely prevalent this behavior is among internet alt-righters, it certainly does give rise to the suspicion that the person in question is not acting in good faith."
That does sort of imply that my behavior is in line with alt-righters, and that I am not acting in good faith. So, you might not be saying that "Hey, this guy is alt-right" you are certainly hinting at it without saying it out right.
Double-blind doesn't fit into crime statistics obviously, but I am using a bunch of statistical methods as an example to say that the sources should perform these things where possible to ensure the accuracy of their statistics. I'm not sure how crime stats are made, but I would hope they are done so accurately and we can measure this to ensure our sources are verifiable.
If a statistic is done correctly and is accurate, then it correctly represents the measure it seeks to represent. If it correctly represents the measure it seeks to represent, wouldn't that be indicative of the population as long as I was measuring the population? Or, am I misunderstanding what you're trying to say? Of course there are other variables that come into play and so this is always a correlation and not a cause and effect relationship, but if the statistics are accurate then they are accurate. The crime statistic I brought up was to show how out of context these thing gets because I was actually saying it WAS socioeconomic status that influenced criminal behavior. Unfortunately, it was taken out of context on this thread and my whole point was disregarded in favor of attributing alt-right characteristics to me because no one considered what I was actually trying to say with the statistic.
I'm not currently discussing other ethnicities, I'm not even trying to make a point about black people and never was. I know a lot of people from all ethnicities are criminals, I just haven't pulled up the statistics to check. So I don't really know what you're getting at here...
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Comment on Discussion, bad faith, our goals, and Tildes in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda I might have misunderstood your intentions then, sorry. I definitely agree that not all conversations are about hearing all sides of an issue. I just don't think we should bar them. But that's not...I might have misunderstood your intentions then, sorry. I definitely agree that not all conversations are about hearing all sides of an issue. I just don't think we should bar them. But that's not what you're saying - you're saying that good conversations often involve a fundamental cooperation to dig deep into an issue instead of arguing the surface. I absolutely agree with this, and while that wasn't contained in my original points I have to agree that it is another important aspect of any good discussion.
As I see it, any topic could have several discussions going on with various levels of depths thus attracting various sides of all issues. And, I think if all of them are engaging in good faith then whether they are sitting near the top of an issue discussing sides or digging deep with and really focusing on cooperating without making it about "sides" (this is hard to articulate without an example for me right now haha) then that should also be accepted and a part of discussion.
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Comment on Tildes Extended in ~tildes
ContemplativePanda I officially nominate you Tilde of the week for your quality of life efforts.I officially nominate you Tilde of the week for your quality of life efforts.
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Comment on How do we tackle this epidemic of misinformation in ~talk
ContemplativePanda I certainly hope the education system starts teaching things like this, but I have doubts that it will even be effective honestly. How many of them will care if they want to be lied to? I think...I certainly hope the education system starts teaching things like this, but I have doubts that it will even be effective honestly. How many of them will care if they want to be lied to? I think that's part of the problem, people like being lied to if it fits in with their world view or makes them feel better.
Honestly, I think countering it was absurd disinformation could work. For those who want actual facts this would make them decide to either stop listening to anything, or seek out true facts on their own without trusting anything. That sort of skepticism would certainly help. But then, there would still be others who don't care and just want to be lied to honestly.
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Comment on How do we tackle this epidemic of misinformation in ~talk
ContemplativePanda I'm afraid that too many users will feel that if no one else has complained about the source then it must be reputable. A sort of free rider problem, if you will. I agree with what you're saying,...I'm afraid that too many users will feel that if no one else has complained about the source then it must be reputable. A sort of free rider problem, if you will. I agree with what you're saying, but doubt anyone will be consistently willing to check all the sources they come across. Perhaps if we foster a culture that values citing the validity of sources for everyone we can, as a community, help each other out with these things. So, if someone misses it someone else is willing to step in and help let everyone know that source isn't reputable and why.
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Comment on How do we tackle this epidemic of misinformation in ~talk
ContemplativePanda Yeah it really seems that way. I don't actually follow it I just saw this post shared and felt the need to do some digging. These FB pages are pretty bad.Yeah it really seems that way. I don't actually follow it I just saw this post shared and felt the need to do some digging. These FB pages are pretty bad.
I think this is more a problem with self control and addiction to things which could be anything that makes you feel good and not specifically videogames. They're just the particular vice in this instance. Could be alcohol, drugs, food, sleep, etc. So, yeah, definitely a self control issue.