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Comment on The US Pentagon says it’s ‘lethalitymaxxing’. Why has ‘incel’ slang crossed into the mainstream? in ~society
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Comment on Color game — how well can you remember colors? | Dialed in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentWorked on mobile Firefox for meWorked on mobile Firefox for me
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Comment on Ayatollah Ali Khamenei killed in Israeli and American joint strikes in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentOh I was thinking of being the velvet glove, but we can absolutely lean in. I am not the branding expert, just figured I gotta get in on the grift these days ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)Oh I was thinking of being the velvet glove, but we can absolutely lean in. I am not the branding expert, just figured I gotta get in on the grift these days ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)
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Comment on The US Pentagon says it’s ‘lethalitymaxxing’. Why has ‘incel’ slang crossed into the mainstream? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae (edited )Link ParentAs I said further down, it has spread beyond where I thought in the past several years. I don't think I'm being uncharitable, as I said, I acknowledged it's "broken containment" but only...As I said further down, it has spread beyond where I thought in the past several years. I don't think I'm being uncharitable, as I said, I acknowledged it's "broken containment" but only relatively recently. I think I'm several steps further away from toxic spaces dominated by young men, I'm also several steps further away from gamer dominated spaces which historically have had great overlap, but I'm not touting that as superiority or insulting people, just stating a thing. I work in the Midwest, far from tech, in a predominantly woman coded field within another field that's also mostly women up to about VP level. I'm not a dude and no longer much of an online gamer. I think I'm factually several steps further away. I am in Gen Z spaces frequently and don't see that slang used which suggests that even they only really use it online. (Google trends supports my thoughts of it breaking containment in the past two years. Even then looksmaxxing seems to be the most common use)
Afaict "aura farming" emerged around the same time as maxxing was breaking out of those more online only spaces. It went viral later, last year with the Indonesian kid on the boat for the festival races. "Aura" itself is older though.
I do mean that the niche community tends to replace words that the mainstream uses because the mainstream uses them. Not that they always get rid of them, but part of the point of the language is setting one apart. You're right in that I won't know what's new there, but again I already said in another comment that the term has spread beyond where I was aware of. I do get threat assessment training that talks about online communications from extremist groups, part of my surprise was that this didn't even come up. So I may become aware of some new slang because learning what incels say is a tangential part of my job.
As this article notes, and something I agree with, it's unlikely the white house social media team learned these terms in the past year or so. (And despite the claims I see no evidence Kamala's team actually used them at all. They might have, but the article linked in another comment didn't actually support that). The fact they're communicating in memes about war crimes is absolutely a huge problem, but there's also merit in understanding why they're choosing the memes, videos and more broadly the language that they're using.
I don't agree with the "it's not that deep" responses because for the past ten years that's been the response to red flags raised. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy or something or that they're all former incels who worship Elliot Rodger or anything. I am saying it's worth noting and that it's indicative of who is in those spaces. Because we know who is in those spaces.
Whether one of them sent the video that contained the Democrats as animals and the Obamas as apes to Trump or whether that random staffer posted it as they
liedclaimed later, the whole admin is posting from the same pool of alt-right, racist, often AI generated memes. I believe they're doing so intentionally. -
Comment on The best Iran war breakdown on the internet with Aimen Dean and Richard Miniter in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae (edited )Link ParentChapter titles from their video called ICE, Immigration and Cultural Suicide One host doesn't believe a "Brown Hindu" born in England is English. He's been listed in the top fifty most influential...Chapter titles from their video called ICE, Immigration and Cultural Suicide
00:00 - Introduction
03:33 - Why Has There Been Huge Waves Of Mass Immigration Over The Last Twenty Years?
10:20 - What Is The Motivation For This?
15:41 - Economic Growth In Relation To Immigration
32:12 - Are Women Radicalised More By Woke Than Men?
40:55 - How Much Of Women's Behaviour Is Down To Not Having Children?
48:40 - People Are Realising This Isn't Sustainable
56:49 - The British People Are Easily Taken Advantage Of
01:04:43 - There's A Lack Of Cultural Self-confidence
01:06:14 - What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About That We Should Be?One host doesn't believe a "Brown Hindu" born in England is English. He's been listed in the top fifty most influential right wing political figures. He says he's not right wing but keeps talking about how woke has gone too far. He has decidedly right wing views about trans people. His guest on the above episode, who doesn't have kids, derides other women who don't have children. (The other guy has a lower profile online and tbh yeah I already got the gist)
We're supposed to believe he's an enlightened centrist who just happens to spend so much time broadcasting the views of people who say horrid things? Because "free speech?"
I have zero reason to trust their show on other topics like Iran. From the AI summary they've said nothing I haven't gathered elsewhere and I hate AI summaries, but I hate the idea of giving them views more.
ETA: oh and they keep being sponsored by "longevity supplements" which is just Alex Jones' schtick in fancier packaging.
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Comment on Color game — how well can you remember colors? | Dialed in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentI didn't think the OP was the game creator?I didn't think the OP was the game creator?
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Comment on British Columbia announces it is making daylight time permanent after years of promises in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentYeah I agree with the other poster, you're just going to functionally use a local time zone anyway.Yeah I agree with the other poster, you're just going to functionally use a local time zone anyway.
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Comment on Color game — how well can you remember colors? | Dialed in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentYeah by the time I've scrolled through I lose the undertones. I royally screwed up the last one. I've had better but it was respectableYeah by the time I've scrolled through I lose the undertones. I royally screwed up the last one. I've had better but it was respectable
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Comment on British Columbia announces it is making daylight time permanent after years of promises in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentSAVE STANDARD TIME This website breaks it down into a bunch of categories, if it doesn't bother your sleep, it may impact your safety, or your doctor's alertness, etc. But as I said I was swayed...This website breaks it down into a bunch of categories, if it doesn't bother your sleep, it may impact your safety, or your doctor's alertness, etc.
But as I said I was swayed by one of the science folk working on this.
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Comment on Ayatollah Ali Khamenei killed in Israeli and American joint strikes in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentWant to partner with someone who can gentle parent them and teach them how it's ok to care just a little bit about other people because it'll improve those people's productivity and make them more...Want to partner with someone who can gentle parent them and teach them how it's ok to care just a little bit about other people because it'll improve those people's productivity and make them more money?
It gives options
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Comment on British Columbia announces it is making daylight time permanent after years of promises in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentI have been swayed by science (I am in a discord server with someone who has worked on it) that permanent standard time is the right move for the US and also I just want folks to care less about a...I have been swayed by science (I am in a discord server with someone who has worked on it) that permanent standard time is the right move for the US and also I just want folks to care less about a clock and adjust to the time of year more as they need.
But until then...
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Comment on A day in the life of an ensh*ttificator in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae (edited )Link ParentIt had a big spike of people talking about stochastic terorrism a few years ago. And all of a sudden (here on Tildes, in the media, elsewhere) everyone was using it and not always well. It was...It had a big spike of people talking about stochastic terorrism a few years ago. And all of a sudden (here on Tildes, in the media, elsewhere) everyone was using it and not always well. It was clearly a "I learned a word/term and now I'm using it" thing.
ETA: enshittification isn't used in my day to day either. I hate seeing it on Tildes because I think it's being beat to death and I just hate the word itself now. But it's a very online only thing for me.
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Comment on A day in the life of an ensh*ttificator in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentI find the word to be incredibly overused and I have started to loathe it the way I do the word stochastic. People learn a new word and use it everywhere and often without care for whether it's...I find the word to be incredibly overused and I have started to loathe it the way I do the word stochastic. People learn a new word and use it everywhere and often without care for whether it's correct or whether it's the best and clearest way to explain the problem.
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Comment on The US Pentagon says it’s ‘lethalitymaxxing’. Why has ‘incel’ slang crossed into the mainstream? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentThe term "coconut-pilled" and Kamala-Maxxing coming from "former Bernie Bros" per the X post that seems to be the original reference (the independent isn't quoting anyone so it unclear) tracks...The term "coconut-pilled" and Kamala-Maxxing coming from "former Bernie Bros" per the X post that seems to be the original reference (the independent isn't quoting anyone so it unclear) tracks tbh. And it's in the past 2 years. I did follow her TT closely and they didn't use KHive and didn't say Kamala-Maxxing that I ever saw. But I don't know what other language was used elsewhere.
The WH posts alt-right memes all the time, I'm not shocked to see them using language aligned with that. It has escaped containment, but my point is that it's not really that far removed from that containment.
I suspect I'm not seeing it (outside mostly of of discussions of said subculture) because I'm a few more steps removed. I've not heard anyone IRL say it and I'm around Gen Z a lot but I acknowledge it's further out than I thought, I just don't think it's as common some people here seem to think. It didn't even come up in my threat assessment training in the past two years, and we talked a lot about various online language and red flags.
But that's just my opinion. I think the defense of it is odder than anything given the context of the white house meme-ing its war crimes and the entire administration being filled with the people, including social media team, who would flag on that same assessment training. Like sure, "everyone" uses it, but I have a strong thought about why they're using it.
As did this article
As Nitsuh Abebe writes in the Times, many users of the term won’t know its incel associations. But Walker figures Trump’s social media team probably does. “A lot of these Trump administration guys, they certainly didn’t learn that word in the past few weeks,” he says. Instead, they are “thirtysomething-year-olds who were those 4chan forum kids back in the early 2010s”.
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Comment on The US Pentagon says it’s ‘lethalitymaxxing’. Why has ‘incel’ slang crossed into the mainstream? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentI don't think you're understanding me, nor followed my later comment. It started there, it journeyed to here. It looks like it's a few years out of that subculture but that is where it came from....I don't think you're understanding me, nor followed my later comment. It started there, it journeyed to here. It looks like it's a few years out of that subculture but that is where it came from.
For example the "wtf is "maxxing"" posts start 2-3 years ago.
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Comment on The US Pentagon says it’s ‘lethalitymaxxing’. Why has ‘incel’ slang crossed into the mainstream? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentSo 6-8 months or so out of subcultures it looks like? I can find articles on cultures like looksmaxxing from 2024, and it hitting niche parts of Tiktok and IG in 2022, which means it was obviously...So 6-8 months or so out of subcultures it looks like? I can find articles on cultures like looksmaxxing from 2024, and it hitting niche parts of Tiktok and IG in 2022, which means it was obviously in adjacent subcultures for a lot longer. Discussion of the topic of the suffix itself looks like it hit the NYT in late 2025. It seems to have rode along with "-pilled" in some spaces but I'd heard that one a long time ago.
I'm not "reading too much into it" I'm looking at where language comes from and how it got here. It came from incel spaces. It's relatively recent in full leaving them. Probably 2 years or so if we assume old people are just slow at writing articles.
It's still not slang I'm seeing used by college students on Snap, TT or in person which is very interesting to me in who is using it where.
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Comment on The US Pentagon says it’s ‘lethalitymaxxing’. Why has ‘incel’ slang crossed into the mainstream? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentI know you say "people" say it, but which groups of people? Where did it slide into broader slang from (and it's not something that say my college students say around me or that my Tiktok feed...I know you say "people" say it, but which groups of people? Where did it slide into broader slang from (and it's not something that say my college students say around me or that my Tiktok feed gets. Aura farming, yes, maxxing, no) and how broad actually is it?
Because I suspect it's only a moved a relatively few steps away from those incel spaces. Maybe now more broadly but if the WH social media is using it, it's probably still actively used in incel adjacent spaces meaning it hasn't been replaced (like what typically happens when slang gets used too broadly)
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Comment on Is fascism back? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentIf it helps the "chapters" break down into a historical discussion of Mussolini, Hitler/Germany and how they came to power, then there's a bit on famous list of fascist characteristics and the...If it helps the "chapters" break down into a historical discussion of Mussolini, Hitler/Germany and how they came to power, then there's a bit on famous list of fascist characteristics and the last 20+ minutes are on the question. So you could hop to whatever point you want.
I'm still in the middle of it and I hate AI summaries so I'll come back with a more detailed human breakdown if no one else does.
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Comment on Is fascism back? in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentJohnny Harris probably wrote the title of his own video so there's one of your answers.Johnny Harris probably wrote the title of his own video so there's one of your answers.
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Comment on How far back in time can you understand English? in ~humanities.languages
DefinitelyNotAFae Link ParentI was very similar. I find reading out loud helps me with older English, once you get a sense of the vowel shifts and the v->u shifts and the like it becomes easier to read through. 1200 is where...I was very similar. I find reading out loud helps me with older English, once you get a sense of the vowel shifts and the v->u shifts and the like it becomes easier to read through. 1200 is where I lost full understanding of sentences but could still puzzle it out somewhat. 1100 is scattered words that maybe I could figure out with more effort
I'm saying the word started in toxic incel spaces and has moved out from there. I didn't add toxic into your assertion, I'm using that to describe incel spaces. Not the multiple steps further away from incel spaces that others are gleaning the word from. I'm not saying anyone who uses it now is in incel spaces - it has spread further than I thought and I corrected that initial misconception.
Here's an example of what I'm saying below. Acknowledging of course that these are actually radiating circles and not a straight line.
4chan -> shitty gaming forum-> gaming subreddits -> meme subreddits -> Tumblr
I don't think it's something everyone says regardless, even outside containment. If it were there wouldn't still be "what's this word" articles. But I'm not saying anyone who uses this word is toxic or in toxic, I'm saying the context matters and this use indicates something IMO.
In the second quoted comment I'm referring to the white house with "spaces". I apologize if it was confusing but it doesn't help to pull it out of context. We know the type of people working for this administration
What I'm saying is: This is simply more evidence of who the white house is staffed with. Yeah we already know this, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to point it out.
And I understand your disagreement with whether it matters or not, but that was the point of the article. I think it does matter. It's awful without the connection, it's worse with it.