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Let’s talk about something different. UAP’s, UFO’s, etc.
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- Former Pentagon UAP Task Force leader releasing book | KLAS
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- George Knapp, John Forest
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- Sep 3 2026
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- 220 words
The only gripe I have with any conversation that revolves around terms like UFO is the apparent difference in definition between the two parties that have been involved: intelligence/defence and the public.
Intelligence: UFO means unidentified object that flies, they're likely of Earth origin and created by humans. We just don't know which humans though, that's all the U means to us. No aliens are implied.
The Public: UFO means aliens, duh. Not from Earth and not human. Drones we've never seen before are not UFOs.
Watching the 2022 congress hearings was like getting teeth pulled with how everyone seemed to be using a completely different dictionary and didn't feel bothered to define their usage of key terms.
I remember following the hearing debacle at the time and if you paid attention to the subtle difference in meanings, neither sides were technically making any debatable claims regarding aliens one way or another. The confusion allowed for statements that help discredit the other party without necessarily disproving their accusations. The actual controversy I suspect had more to do with illicit funds, obfuscated by alien talks.
Edit: removed bold claim
This is the problem with just about everything in mainstream discourse and the lack of nuance so many people have nowadays.
So many people use the exact same words to mean completely different things, then waste their time arguing with each other instead of establishing what they're actually talking about.
I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain something along the lines of:
"When you say X, you're referring to one specific concept. But when I say X, I'm referring to an entirely different concept. I actually agree with what you're saying about your definition of X. The problem is that you're arguing against a position I'm not even taking, because you've assumed your definition is the only one."
We're not even disagreeing about the actual issue. We're arguing over a misunderstanding that could have been resolved in thirty seconds if people bothered to clarify what each other meant.
But apparently establishing a common understanding of what we're discussing before arguing about it is asking far too much of some people's brainpower so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Where to start?
I think extraterrestrial life probably exists. Even advanced, intelligent life… but I doubt that sort is common, or situated anywhere near our cosmic neighborhood because we’d have proof of it by now. In my opinion, to understand the massive scale of a universe that contains (at least) hundreds of billions of GALAXIES and still claim that there’s nothing anywhere out there approaching human sophistication, reaches new farcical heights of hubris.
But flying saucers in Earth’s skies? Close encounters? Alien abductions? Not likely. This is the Fermi paradox, right? The same appeal I made to the size of the universe applies here, in reverse: Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.
I think everything we know about physics sadly rules out interstellar travel as an actual possibility, at least for any species recognizable to us as an intelligent life form. We’re certainly not transporting ourselves to even Mars any time soon, let alone Proxima Centauri. Let alone the far side of our own galaxy. Let alone Andromeda, or beyond. As a lifelong sci-fi fan it breaks my heart, but that’s reality. If the aliens are out there, we can’t get to them, and they can’t get to us.
So my view is that UFOs and UAPs and the like are all different flavors of unsexy terrestrial phenomena. Some are real sightings of classified military or intelligence hardware tests, covered up for reasons of national security or to scrub away evidence of secret programs operating with shadow budgets and questionable legality. Okay I guess that’s kinda sexy. The rest are things like schizophrenia, hallucinations, pareidolia, wishful thinking / power of suggestion / confirmation bias. And of course, hoaxes and scams.
(Miss you, DA. So long, and thanks for all the books.)
I mostly agree with you.
But I think interstellar travel is probably possible. It's just very slow without some energy source that we don't currently know about.
So there could be extraterrestrial craft visiting Earth. It could be:
The things I'm extremely skeptical about are:
I agree with you mostly. But, what is with the UAP government disclosure? It seems like a big waste of time, but it is interesting.
Jay Stratton a former high ranking government official is releasing a book about UFO’s, UAP’s, Skinwalker Ranch, Portals, etc. Actually it just released in NA.
It is all over YouTube people talking about this book. About Orbs, UAP’s, UFO’s, portals, beings, etc.
What is all of this. Money grabbing fiction? Psy-Op?, Distraction from something bigger?, or is this possibly reality?
I see there is a lot of negative discourse on here lately, so I wanted a fun topic with no clear answer. Please be respectful