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Trump administration makes move to completely roll back methane pollution regulations

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  1. tunneljumper
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    I don't like to speak in superlatives but I genuinely think this is the worst President in American history. Rampantly cronyist, pathetically ineffective, and displayed absolutely no qualities of...

    I don't like to speak in superlatives but I genuinely think this is the worst President in American history. Rampantly cronyist, pathetically ineffective, and displayed absolutely no qualities of a leader.

    His only lasting legacy is going to be rolling back essential environmental protections, getting played like a fiddle by Russia, and getting the whole world to laugh at him when he tried to get Mexico to pay for his Wall.

    15 votes
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    patience_limited
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    The p*resident is going to keep looting or letting his cronies and supporters loot the nation and environment right up until the moment his greasy little fingers can be pried from the office. I'm...

    The p*resident is going to keep looting or letting his cronies and supporters loot the nation and environment right up until the moment his greasy little fingers can be pried from the office.

    I'm terrified that he's riding the tiger and won't honor the results of an electoral defeat, because he's facing jail, humiliation, and impoverishment if a new administration has power to act on his crimes.

    14 votes
    1. [11]
      babypuncher
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      Let's face it, no incoming president would actually try to put Trump in prison after taking office. They would let him go back to his hotels in the name of "promoting unity". This isn't a dig...

      Let's face it, no incoming president would actually try to put Trump in prison after taking office. They would let him go back to his hotels in the name of "promoting unity".

      This isn't a dig against Biden either. I don't think Sanders, Warren, or literally anyone else who could possibly win an election against Trump would do anything. There just isn't enough value to be gained and it would expend a tremendous amount of political capital among an already highly polarized electorate.

      9 votes
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        MimicSquid
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        Fyck that noise. If there aren't serious consequences, this shit will keep happening. There have to be consequences for people abusing their office.

        Fyck that noise. If there aren't serious consequences, this shit will keep happening. There have to be consequences for people abusing their office.

        12 votes
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          tlalexander
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          But that’s the status quo - there aren’t consequences for the crimes of US presidents. Obama didn’t go after Bush Jr for the same reason. There literally already are not consequences for the many...

          But that’s the status quo - there aren’t consequences for the crimes of US presidents. Obama didn’t go after Bush Jr for the same reason. There literally already are not consequences for the many crimes committed by US presidents since the country was founded.

          https://youtu.be/J3ymbBY1BJI

          6 votes
          1. [6]
            MimicSquid
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            And? The status quo can go hang. We need something different here. Just saying that that's how it is isn't ok anymore, if it ever was.

            And? The status quo can go hang. We need something different here. Just saying that that's how it is isn't ok anymore, if it ever was.

            5 votes
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              Kuromantis
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              If leaving power = jail then Trump would have every incentive (and in a way the only one that matters to him, which is him personally being treated like anyone else and put in a jail cell for...

              If leaving power = jail then Trump would have every incentive (and in a way the only one that matters to him, which is him personally being treated like anyone else and put in a jail cell for likely the rest of his life) to seize dictatorial powers. (Although the main counterargument is he's already doing this anyway.)

              2 votes
              1. [4]
                MimicSquid
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                If amnesty is what they get for what they've done, it will be a ruination of the basic fabric of our government. If wrongs are left unresolved, what is left?

                If amnesty is what they get for what they've done, it will be a ruination of the basic fabric of our government. If wrongs are left unresolved, what is left?

                4 votes
                1. [3]
                  Kuromantis
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                  You could arguably presume Trump will let everyone around him (McConnell, Pence, Barr, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch) be punished so long as he gets away with a fine or not in jail. He's not exactly known...

                  You could arguably presume Trump will let everyone around him (McConnell, Pence, Barr, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch) be punished so long as he gets away with a fine or not in jail. He's not exactly known for deeply felt beliefs (or deeply felt anything really).

                  1 vote
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                    MimicSquid
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                    And? That all the smaller fish will fry while the big fish gets away is only good enough if it's clear that anything like what they've done will be professionally and personally ruinous. It might...

                    And? That all the smaller fish will fry while the big fish gets away is only good enough if it's clear that anything like what they've done will be professionally and personally ruinous. It might be enough.

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                    1. Kuromantis
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                      Arguably yes, since a lot of his abuses passed by because the GOP let him do stuff. They could have stopped his SCOTUS judges or the FBI and DOJ appointments/firings or impeached him for those...

                      Arguably yes, since a lot of his abuses passed by because the GOP let him do stuff. They could have stopped his SCOTUS judges or the FBI and DOJ appointments/firings or impeached him for those offences but they didn't. More importantly, it should probably cost them votes.

      2. patience_limited
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        I don't think it's that simple - there are already multiple Federal and State-level investigations underway for civil and criminal actions against Donald Trump and his enterprises. While it's...

        I don't think it's that simple - there are already multiple Federal and State-level investigations underway for civil and criminal actions against Donald Trump and his enterprises.

        While it's conceivable that he might step down in exchange for blanket immunity or pardon, there's no way in hell Trump would have universal exemption forever. His businesses aren't prospering enough to satisfy Deutsche Bank and other creditors indefinitely. Short of a willingness to claim asylum in Russia, there's no satisfactory endgame for the Trump family other than holding onto power.

        6 votes
      3. teaearlgraycold
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        I doubt states wouldn't bring charges against him.

        I doubt states wouldn't bring charges against him.

        4 votes
  3. cfabbro
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    Looks like rolling back the methane pollution regulation isn't the only thing they are trying to slip through unnoticed during the unrest: Trump signs order removing environmental review of major...

    Looks like rolling back the methane pollution regulation isn't the only thing they are trying to slip through unnoticed during the unrest:

    Trump signs order removing environmental review of major projects

    10 votes
  4. intuxikated
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    Trump is making other fascist government around the world look better than the wealthiest nation in the world. Like it or not, people still compare their country (especially third world countries)...

    Trump is making other fascist government around the world look better than the wealthiest nation in the world. Like it or not, people still compare their country (especially third world countries) with America in terms of development. Since America is setting the bar very low after Trump took office, other fascist government like one in India seems like doing a better job on things like public health and environment protection.

    Trump's "friendship" with these fascists are also helping them become popular among undereducated masses. But the thing is America have the resources to built back some of the things he ruined but these undeveloped countries dont have that privilege. He is not only a bad president but also a horrible human being :(

    6 votes
  5. KapteinB
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    Is this a Trump policy, or a Republican policy? Would the Cruz administration have done the same?

    Is this a Trump policy, or a Republican policy? Would the Cruz administration have done the same?

    1 vote