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Mississippi is forbidding grocery stores from calling veggie burgers “veggie burgers”

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  1. [5]
    NaraVara
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    I love that our entire political system now seems 100% focused on “owning the libs” instead of doing anything productive.

    I love that our entire political system now seems 100% focused on “owning the libs” instead of doing anything productive.

    28 votes
    1. Sahasrahla
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      Though I'm sure some would like it for that aspect I figure at the level of people making policy it's more about favouring certain industries over others (lobbying? corruption? entrenched...

      Though I'm sure some would like it for that aspect I figure at the level of people making policy it's more about favouring certain industries over others (lobbying? corruption? entrenched interests? winning votes from farmers? I don't know). It makes me think of the surprisingly controversial history of margarine here in Canada. For a while it was banned altogether and until fairly recently it was regulated in terms of colour (can't have it looking too much like butter) because of lobbying from the dairy industry, especially in Quebec where they're quite powerful. A fun article on the topic, and some excerpts:

      Quebec's strong dairy lobby was able to persuade the government to protect the population from margarine until 1961. But margarine did manage to make its way to morning toast in the province. The dairy lobby, though, was determined to make sure that Quebecers would not be confused and buy margarine if they were really after butter.

      The dairy lobby persuaded Premier Robert Bourassa to ban coloured margarine in 1987. At the time, most other provinces had either dropped their prohibition of butter-coloured margarine or had stopped enforcing laws against it.

      ...

      In 1997, Unilever declared war on the ban. In November, the company imported 480 containers of yellow margarine it had manufactured in the U.S. and delivered them to a retail distributor in Quebec.

      On Nov. 24, 1997, the government responded. It sent in inspectors from the Ministère de l'Agriculture, des Pêcheries et de l'Alimentation. They seized 384 containers of the offending product. Outraged, Unilever went to Superior Court to have the seizures quashed. It also asked the court to declare the law banning coloured margarine "null, unconstitutional, invalid, inoperable, unreasonable and contrary to Canadian federalism."

      9 votes
    2. emdash
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      I don't understand it. I'm relatively young, but to think there's now a whole generation of young people that are growing up that now believe this to be the "norm" and the impressionable ones who...

      I don't understand it. I'm relatively young, but to think there's now a whole generation of young people that are growing up that now believe this to be the "norm" and the impressionable ones who "vote republican", at least in my mind, are often doing it for no other reason than some bastardised expression of political counterculturalism. It's fucking crazy. This is not the way politics should be working.

      Green new deal? Nope, not happening. But we have no alternatives. LGBT rights? Nope, not happening. But we have no alternatives. Universal healthcare? Nope, not happening. But we have no alternatives.

      6 votes
    3. [2]
      Cosmos
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      How anyone still supports this party just baffles me. Sooner or later they have to realize none of these ridiculous policies are actually making their lives any better, right?

      How anyone still supports this party just baffles me. Sooner or later they have to realize none of these ridiculous policies are actually making their lives any better, right?

      1 vote
      1. alyaza
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        because the GOP does still represent conservatism--even if it is a "bastardized" form of it--and there are a lot of people who want to stick it to the libs perfectly seriously and are positively...

        How anyone still supports this party just baffles me.

        because the GOP does still represent conservatism--even if it is a "bastardized" form of it--and there are a lot of people who want to stick it to the libs perfectly seriously and are positively gleeful that donald isn't a bush type and is mask off about owning the libs even if it goes against everything he stood for previously.

        4 votes
  2. [3]
    rmgr
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    I understand the meat industry wanting to try and differentiate themselves from plant based products but at the same time, like the article said, nobody is buying a veggie burger and going "what...

    I understand the meat industry wanting to try and differentiate themselves from plant based products but at the same time, like the article said, nobody is buying a veggie burger and going "what the fuck where's the meat?"

    Side note - is it an American thing to refer to the actual meat as a burger? I always thought of the meat as a patty and "burger" as the variety of sandwich.

    4 votes
    1. acdw
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      I think "hamburger" refers to the meat, at least in shows from like, the 50s or earlier. Before it was a sandwich, people would just eat the burger meat, and the dish was "hamburger." I think that...

      I think "hamburger" refers to the meat, at least in shows from like, the 50s or earlier. Before it was a sandwich, people would just eat the burger meat, and the dish was "hamburger." I think that any more people would be confused if you just asked them to pick up "hamburger" from the store and expected only the ground beef.

      1 vote
    2. Cosmos
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      I personally say "hamburger meat" when I'm going to the store to get ground beef. Just saying hamburger on its own refers to the whole sandwich. Although I think at the store they label the...

      I personally say "hamburger meat" when I'm going to the store to get ground beef. Just saying hamburger on its own refers to the whole sandwich.

      Although I think at the store they label the preformed burger patties as "hamburgers". I'll have to double check next time I go.

      1 vote
  3. [2]
    moocow1452
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    Is this going to be the Chicken Wyngz thing all over again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyngz

    Is this going to be the Chicken Wyngz thing all over again?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyngz

    3 votes
    1. Octofox
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      Thats fair because it actually is misleading. I would expect something called "chicken wings" to include chicken in it but I would have no expectation that something called "Veggie burger" would...

      Thats fair because it actually is misleading. I would expect something called "chicken wings" to include chicken in it but I would have no expectation that something called "Veggie burger" would have meat in it.

      9 votes
  4. Cosmos
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    Glad to see Mississippi addressing the most important issues in their state. And you would think this issue could be solved by funding their education system so that people understand the...

    Glad to see Mississippi addressing the most important issues in their state.

    And you would think this issue could be solved by funding their education system so that people understand the difference between a veggie burger and a meat one.

    2 votes
  5. Octofox
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    The only way I can see this making sense is if the people of Mississippi were too illiterate to know the word vegetable and only understood "burger"

    The only way I can see this making sense is if the people of Mississippi were too illiterate to know the word vegetable and only understood "burger"

    1 vote