I see a lot of people weirdly entitled about SteamDB. In the end, it's a project one dude ran as a hobby out of his own pocket. None of us are owed anything. No one has ever paid the dude a cent....
I see a lot of people weirdly entitled about SteamDB. In the end, it's a project one dude ran as a hobby out of his own pocket. None of us are owed anything. No one has ever paid the dude a cent.
He has every right to shut the servers down at any moment he doesn't want to keep it up, in the same way that someone knitting a scarf has every right to stop knitting it if they get bored.
That he shopped around for a buyer is already more than anyone deserves. Maybe NexusMods will run it to the ground. Oh well, that's life.
I understand where people are coming from though and I imagine it's much less entitlement and more the feeling that one more thing that was good is likely going the way of the crapper. We've been...
I understand where people are coming from though and I imagine it's much less entitlement and more the feeling that one more thing that was good is likely going the way of the crapper.
We've been through this rigamarole so many times. Service starts, is good, gets sold, enshittifies.
Yes I'm sure there's entitlement aplenty too, but for a lot of people it's expressed as entitlement stemming from anger instead.
And like, yeah, he can do what he wants. I can also feel a little annoyed about it.
I mean, there's a difference between a paid product, that has revenue flows, that gets worse after acquisition. People essentially expect this one dude to burn his OWN money and time indefinitely...
Service starts, is good, gets sold, enshittifies.
I mean, there's a difference between a paid product, that has revenue flows, that gets worse after acquisition.
People essentially expect this one dude to burn his OWN money and time indefinitely for their benefit. That's just absurd.
Steamdb was never sustainable. It's not a company, it doesn't have revenue, it doesn't have employees. Something that's free, and actually free, in the sense it's just burning money from the creator, you should never expect to exist indefinitely as-is.
No and I agree with you entirely. Regardless, people are still allowed to feel annoyed at the news though. Anger and disappointment around this topic is frequently expressed as entitlement.
No and I agree with you entirely. Regardless, people are still allowed to feel annoyed at the news though. Anger and disappointment around this topic is frequently expressed as entitlement.
I think this is looking at it from an individualistic point of view. He made it and has the right to do with as he wants, I do not dispute that. From a view of a healthy internet this is a very...
I think this is looking at it from an individualistic point of view. He made it and has the right to do with as he wants, I do not dispute that.
From a view of a healthy internet this is a very small step for the worse and people can feel sad about it.
Hobby projects such as these add value in a general web of sites that will squeze everything they can and give back as little as possible.
The problem generally seems to be monetization. I think that if seemless micropayment option existed it could make these kinds of projects more viable. Ads are the dominant option today and are immensely expensive, even if the cost is indirect for the viewer. It is also far more than simply an increase in product prices.
Nexus is on my personal "do not use" list and yes, I am annoyed that a site that took donations - not money afaik, but they did request Steam game donations and even the Nexus Mods article linked...
Nexus is on my personal "do not use" list and yes, I am annoyed that a site that took donations - not money afaik, but they did request Steam game donations and even the Nexus Mods article linked to states this if you don't believe me - is being sold to Nexus. Can't avoid every target of enshittification, but like steam250, I expect steamdb will degrade in usefulness over time and I'm certainly not going to toss any further keys its way under their new ownership.
Ah well. Guess its back to overpopulating my Steam wishlist and scanning new releases manually again.
Ah yes, the same NexusMods that was purchased last year by a monetizing firm. Well they have kept NM going over the last year without causing too much grief, hopefully the same holds true for...
Ah yes, the same NexusMods that was purchased last year by a monetizing firm.
Well they have kept NM going over the last year without causing too much grief, hopefully the same holds true for steamdb for awhile longer.
A little sad, but what can you do? I don't know much about Nexus, beyond that their site is a little annoying in that you need an account but it's serviceable. Hopefully SteamDB doesn't degrade...
A little sad, but what can you do? I don't know much about Nexus, beyond that their site is a little annoying in that you need an account but it's serviceable. Hopefully SteamDB doesn't degrade too much.
I see a lot of people weirdly entitled about SteamDB. In the end, it's a project one dude ran as a hobby out of his own pocket. None of us are owed anything. No one has ever paid the dude a cent.
He has every right to shut the servers down at any moment he doesn't want to keep it up, in the same way that someone knitting a scarf has every right to stop knitting it if they get bored.
That he shopped around for a buyer is already more than anyone deserves. Maybe NexusMods will run it to the ground. Oh well, that's life.
I understand where people are coming from though and I imagine it's much less entitlement and more the feeling that one more thing that was good is likely going the way of the crapper.
We've been through this rigamarole so many times. Service starts, is good, gets sold, enshittifies.
Yes I'm sure there's entitlement aplenty too, but for a lot of people it's expressed as entitlement stemming from anger instead.
And like, yeah, he can do what he wants. I can also feel a little annoyed about it.
I mean, there's a difference between a paid product, that has revenue flows, that gets worse after acquisition.
People essentially expect this one dude to burn his OWN money and time indefinitely for their benefit. That's just absurd.
Steamdb was never sustainable. It's not a company, it doesn't have revenue, it doesn't have employees. Something that's free, and actually free, in the sense it's just burning money from the creator, you should never expect to exist indefinitely as-is.
No and I agree with you entirely. Regardless, people are still allowed to feel annoyed at the news though. Anger and disappointment around this topic is frequently expressed as entitlement.
Sure, in the sense that they have free will and free speech.
In that vein, I have the right to say that they’re entitled and dumb. Which I am.
And the people actually lashing out are indeed!
I think this is looking at it from an individualistic point of view. He made it and has the right to do with as he wants, I do not dispute that.
From a view of a healthy internet this is a very small step for the worse and people can feel sad about it.
Hobby projects such as these add value in a general web of sites that will squeze everything they can and give back as little as possible.
The problem generally seems to be monetization. I think that if seemless micropayment option existed it could make these kinds of projects more viable. Ads are the dominant option today and are immensely expensive, even if the cost is indirect for the viewer. It is also far more than simply an increase in product prices.
Nexus is on my personal "do not use" list and yes, I am annoyed that a site that took donations - not money afaik, but they did request Steam game donations and even the Nexus Mods article linked to states this if you don't believe me - is being sold to Nexus. Can't avoid every target of enshittification, but like steam250, I expect steamdb will degrade in usefulness over time and I'm certainly not going to toss any further keys its way under their new ownership.
Ah well. Guess its back to overpopulating my Steam wishlist and scanning new releases manually again.
Ah yes, the same NexusMods that was purchased last year by a monetizing firm.
Well they have kept NM going over the last year without causing too much grief, hopefully the same holds true for steamdb for awhile longer.
A little sad, but what can you do? I don't know much about Nexus, beyond that their site is a little annoying in that you need an account but it's serviceable. Hopefully SteamDB doesn't degrade too much.