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Ninja takes two-day break, loses 40,000 subscribers

https://kotaku.com/ninja-takes-two-day-break-loses-40-000-subscribers-1826813300

Sometimes the volatility of current gaming trends, championed by twitch, really make me feel like I'm not even in the same place as the rest of gamers anymore.

17 comments

  1. [16]
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    1. [3]
      nacho
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      These aren't people unsubscribing. They're people who haven't manually renewed their subscriptions since he hasn't been streaming. Yes, he may have lost revenue and following in total, but we only...

      These aren't people unsubscribing. They're people who haven't manually renewed their subscriptions since he hasn't been streaming.

      Yes, he may have lost revenue and following in total, but we only really know whether that's the case at least a week after he's been back and all his regulars have had a chance to watch one of his streams.

      8 votes
      1. cfabbro
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        ^ With how many subscribers Ninja has, many of whom are likely to be using Twitch Prime’s free sub (which does not auto renew), I would not be surprised if this number is merely reflective of the...

        ^ With how many subscribers Ninja has, many of whom are likely to be using Twitch Prime’s free sub (which does not auto renew), I would not be surprised if this number is merely reflective of the fact it’s unlikely for people to even notice their subscription expired while a streamer is on vacation. Once he starts streaming again that number is likely to rebound as people resub.

        You also have to keep in mind that the popularity of Fortnite could be finally peaking and the number of lost subscribers might reflect a general loss of interest in the game itself (and watching others stream it), rather than directly related to Ninja taking a 2 day break

        E.g. Only anecdotal I know, but I and a buddy of mine have been regularly watching Ninja stream for well over 2 years now and we both have been subs for almost as long... despite that both of us are getting tired of watching him play Fortnite, even as Godly as he is at it, since that's literally all he ever plays anymore. I let my sub expire a few months ago because I have moved on to watching other streamers more frequently than Ninja these days so can’t really justify being subscribed to him anymore and my buddy is thinking of doing the same.

        5 votes
      2. toly
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        This makes the most sense, it's not an active loss of viewers but merely a passive loss of them. New sensationalist headline idea: Ninja Views Drop 96% After End of Stream

        This makes the most sense, it's not an active loss of viewers but merely a passive loss of them.

        New sensationalist headline idea: Ninja Views Drop 96% After End of Stream

        1 vote
    2. [12]
      TreeBone
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      Exactly. Were they so furious that they couldn't watch those two days that they cast it aside forever? I can't fathom another reason.

      Exactly. Were they so furious that they couldn't watch those two days that they cast it aside forever? I can't fathom another reason.

      6 votes
      1. [11]
        Silbern
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        I don't mean to cast judgement on the viewers, but to be truthful, many of the subscribers to these Twitch gaming streamers are children or young teenagers, and it's generally not a demographic...

        I don't mean to cast judgement on the viewers, but to be truthful, many of the subscribers to these Twitch gaming streamers are children or young teenagers, and it's generally not a demographic with very long attention spans. If you attract their attention, it's worth keeping in mind that it's very easily drawn elsewhere...

        5 votes
        1. [10]
          TreeBone
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          Aren't subscribers different from normal viewers? I was under the impression this is paid subscribers, which would indicate they have to be at least 18? I'm not sure though.

          Aren't subscribers different from normal viewers? I was under the impression this is paid subscribers, which would indicate they have to be at least 18? I'm not sure though.

          4 votes
          1. [4]
            Gaywallet
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            Eh, daddy and mommy's wallet might be paying for it and they don't even know. There's basically a service you can pay for, like amazon prime, but for twitch. It allows you to give a subscriber...

            Eh, daddy and mommy's wallet might be paying for it and they don't even know. There's basically a service you can pay for, like amazon prime, but for twitch. It allows you to give a subscriber credit each month and has some monthly fee.

            4 votes
            1. [3]
              TreeBone
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              Potentially, but 40k is an excessive amount. I have a hard time thinking those are all young kids subbed on twitch prime accounts axing their Ninja sub.

              Potentially, but 40k is an excessive amount. I have a hard time thinking those are all young kids subbed on twitch prime accounts axing their Ninja sub.

              1 vote
              1. [2]
                Gaywallet
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                True. Who knows what the breakdown looks like. Just saying there's plenty of <18 year olds in that 40k almost guaranteed, especially since fortnite is the game that skyrocketed his subscriber count.

                True. Who knows what the breakdown looks like.

                Just saying there's plenty of <18 year olds in that 40k almost guaranteed, especially since fortnite is the game that skyrocketed his subscriber count.

                1. TreeBone
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                  Oh absolutely. I assumed it was mostly children but the pay wall has me questioning the actual age group.

                  Oh absolutely. I assumed it was mostly children but the pay wall has me questioning the actual age group.

                  1 vote
          2. [5]
            Silbern
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            You have to pay? I'm subscribed to several streams I occasionally watch and I've never had to pay...

            You have to pay? I'm subscribed to several streams I occasionally watch and I've never had to pay...

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              1. Silbern
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                Yeah I thought they meant following, I spend much more time on Youtube hehe. Nvm...

                Yeah I thought they meant following, I spend much more time on Youtube hehe. Nvm...

                2 votes
            2. [3]
              TreeBone
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              You can follow any streamer (Ninja has about 9 million followers), but subscriptions are 5 dollars a month. At least Ninja's sub fee is 5. Some channels may not charge. I haven't seen any that don't.

              You can follow any streamer (Ninja has about 9 million followers), but subscriptions are 5 dollars a month. At least Ninja's sub fee is 5. Some channels may not charge. I haven't seen any that don't.

              2 votes
              1. deciduous
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                Every channel charges. Twitch subscriptions always cost at least $5 and you can pay more for higher tiers of subs for some streamers. If you have amazon prime, you also get a free subscription...

                Every channel charges. Twitch subscriptions always cost at least $5 and you can pay more for higher tiers of subs for some streamers. If you have amazon prime, you also get a free subscription each much with Twitch prime.

                1 vote
              2. Silbern
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                Ooooooh, I thought we meant followers. Ah, never mind then...

                Ooooooh, I thought we meant followers. Ah, never mind then...

                1 vote
  2. [2]
    Heichou
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    Methinks he may have been better off without followers like that

    Methinks he may have been better off without followers like that

    1 vote
    1. MacDolanFarms
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      At $5 per subscriber, maybe not.

      At $5 per subscriber, maybe not.

      2 votes