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Ratz Instagib: The purest arena shooter

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  1. [5]
    Bullmaestro
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    I hate to be that guy, and I fell into that trap before. But Leadhead is pronouncing words like "gibbing", "instagib", "gib", etc wrong. The G has more of a J sound, like how you'd pronounce...

    I hate to be that guy, and I fell into that trap before. But Leadhead is pronouncing words like "gibbing", "instagib", "gib", etc wrong. The G has more of a J sound, like how you'd pronounce giblets.

    I mean I can easily forgive how people pronounce GIF because it wasn't based on any particular word, because the creator's intent of the original word's pronunciation wasn't really known until many years after the format was developed, and because "jif" frankly sounds like a cleaning product you'd see advertised on TV and not an animated image format. EDIT: I was a bit wrong there. Jif is actually a well known brand of lemon juice. I knew I remembered it from somewhere.

    But gibbing is literally shooting your victim so hard that their body turns to giblets. For me it's become a pet-peeve, like how Brian Griffin doesn't like how Stewie pronounces coolwhip.

    To be fair, I didn't actually realise this myself until I started watching vids on Ahoy's YouTube channel a few years ago. And before that I knew something was off with how I pronounced instagib, but couldn't quite put my finger on it.

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    1. skullkid2424
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      Pronunciation of internet slang is always an interesting topic. Many times the etymology is obscured and these terms are first seen in text as a shorthand - its hard to truly say what the...

      Pronunciation of internet slang is always an interesting topic. Many times the etymology is obscured and these terms are first seen in text as a shorthand - its hard to truly say what the "correct" pronunciation is. The pronunciation of giblet itself seems to differ too (I definitely use the 'g' rather than the 'j') - though I don't know if thats a regional thing or not...and I don't run into giblets very often in my life. The hard 'g' vs soft 'g' in English is also quite an interesting deep dive - the letter 'j' commonly replaced instances of soft 'g' for many words (like how 'gaol' became 'jail')...however many words kept both the spelling and pronunciation of the parent languages, which is why we have tons of words that start with 'gi' and are use different 'g' sounds (girl, gift, giggle, gills vs ginger, giraffe, gigolo).

      Its also possible that it evolved after being shortened to "gib" and "instagib" - the hard 'g' is more natural to pronounce after saying "insta". I remember that there is a fancy linguistics term for that form of drift, but I'm not a fancy linguist and don't remember the term.

      And not that twitter polls are reliable evidence, but this quake poll indicates that that hard 'g' is probably more common and more likely to be understood by the majority.

      I know you said its a pet peeve and those aren't always rational - but know that its not necessarily as cut and dry as it seems.

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    2. TheRtRevKaiser
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      Interestingly, Merriam-Webster has a variant pronunciation of giblet with a hard 'g', and Dictionary.com has a definition for 'Gib' and had both hard and soft 'g' in the pronunciation. I think the...

      Interestingly, Merriam-Webster has a variant pronunciation of giblet with a hard 'g', and Dictionary.com has a definition for 'Gib' and had both hard and soft 'g' in the pronunciation.

      I think the soft 'g' is probably more "correct" because of the etymology, but prescriptivism isn't en vogue with linguists and lexicographers currently so I suspect they're just (correctly) identifying that variant pronunciations exist, especially with 'gib' which I hear pretty equally both ways. And really, "correct" pronunciation is just what people understand. English pronunciation has changed wildly over the centuries and and the language has moved around the globe.

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    3. mat
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      You were right originally - Jif is a cleaning product, although it was renamed Cif in lots of countries, I remember it from before digital image formats were a thing. It's also a brand of peanut...

      You were right originally - Jif is a cleaning product, although it was renamed Cif in lots of countries, I remember it from before digital image formats were a thing. It's also a brand of peanut butter

    4. PopeRigby
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      John Romero, who coined the term "gibbing" pronounces it with the J sound, so make of that what you will.

      John Romero, who coined the term "gibbing" pronounces it with the J sound, so make of that what you will.

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    knocklessmonster
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    A pure OSOK FPS takes some temerity to publish. However, OSOK is probably one of the most fun deathmatch variants ever, whether it's something slow like AssaultCube or something fast-paced like...

    A pure OSOK FPS takes some temerity to publish. However, OSOK is probably one of the most fun deathmatch variants ever, whether it's something slow like AssaultCube or something fast-paced like Xonotic or Quake (what I'm familiar with) or even what Ratz looks to be. He does a good job of capturing what's fun about that microgenre, to be honest. You're dead or you aren't, and it's simply "Who made the shot?"

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    1. rmgr
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      Xonotic Instagib is one of my favourite game modes. The idea of a game that is purely OSOK really appeals to me!

      Xonotic Instagib is one of my favourite game modes. The idea of a game that is purely OSOK really appeals to me!

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