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Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of October 4

This thread is posted weekly, and is intended as a place for more-casual discussion of the coronavirus and questions/updates that may not warrant their own dedicated topics. Tell us about what the situation is like where you live!

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  1. kfwyre
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    My husband got a Pfizer booster shot on Friday night. He stayed in bed all Saturday and said that, while it definitely took the wind out of his sails, this time around wasn't as bad as his second...

    My husband got a Pfizer booster shot on Friday night. He stayed in bed all Saturday and said that, while it definitely took the wind out of his sails, this time around wasn't as bad as his second shot. On Sunday he was feeling better for a bit but then got very severe intermittent stomach/intestinal cramps. He took off work today as a result, and, thankfully, now says he's back to 100%.

    A quick internet search shows that stomach issues aren't a terribly uncommon side effect of the shot, but this was the first we'd heard of anything like that.

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  2. dubteedub
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    Some clippings of anti-masker / anti-vaxxer violence this week Maryland man allegedly fatally shot his pharmacist brother for ‘killing people’ with the COVID vaccine, court records show Marchers...

    Some clippings of anti-masker / anti-vaxxer violence this week

    A Cumberland man allegedly killed his brother and sister-in-law in their Ellicott City home last week because his brother, a pharmacist, administered COVID-19 vaccines, according to charging documents filed Wednesday in a Howard County court.

    Jeffrey Burnham told his mother he had to confront his older brother, Brian Robinette, because he was poisoning people by administering the COVID-19 vaccine, telling his mother, “Brian knows something,” according to the new charging documents filed against Burnham.

    For months now, New York City has quietly been subjected to regular street protests over vaccine mandates. Today’s demonstration, which marked the Department of Education’s own mandate going into full effect, started at the DOE headquarters in Brooklyn, made its way over the Brooklyn Bridge, and headed uptown.

    But the real action came in Union Square, where marchers began to demolish a mobile COVID testing station. There was, from the video documentation, a slow and minimal police intervention in this conflict, even as the table, chairs, and tent in front of the testing van were thrown to the sidewalk. Journalist Brendan Gutenschwager followed the march for its entire route. He also documented what looked to be a police officer applauding the marchers.

    Regardless of whether they’ve been directly inspired by Carlson’s relentless demonization of measures to mitigate the spread of Covid-19 and those who enforce them, anti-vaxxers are very much taking action. Yes, they’ve been raising wild-eyed hell at school board meetings, but an increasing number of them are now taking the fight to the schools themselves, just as Carlson suggested.

    The offenders include violent extremist groups like the Proud Boys — who in September tried to gain access to the grounds of a school in Vancouver, Washington, during an anti-mask protest, resulting in a lockdown — as well as coalitions of sign-wielding activists, like the one that harassed parents and their children en route to an elementary school in Beverly Hills, California on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after Carlson urged the need for direct action.

    This is what happens when so much hate and vitriol is pushed by the political right towards vaccines. The far-right in this country just keep doubling down time and again on their hate and misinformation. I wonder how many more of these were are going to see in the coming months as more unvaxxed die and the remaining believers continue to dig in.

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    ras
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    I just wanted to vent for a bit here about our current situation here in the west Atlanta exurbs. My 10 year old daughter and 2 year old son have both been exhibiting some symptoms of COVID....

    I just wanted to vent for a bit here about our current situation here in the west Atlanta exurbs. My 10 year old daughter and 2 year old son have both been exhibiting some symptoms of COVID. Nothing serious, fevers, lethargy, congestion, coughing, etc. We took them both to the doctor yesterday and they wouldn't perform a COVID test on either of them. It's all so strange. I get that they're low risk, but it would sure be nice to know if they have it and if we need to shut everything down for a bit around the house. We're just acting on that assumption for the most part.

    I went online as well to see if I can get a test a pharmacy and there are no appointments for days and days. The only real option that's readily available is a cash pay urgent care that charges $130 per test. It's all very frustrating here. I just wanted to vent.

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      kfwyre
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      Look into over-the-counter rapid tests. BinaxNOW is the best and most affordable available in the US. $14 at WalMart and ~$30 at Walgreens/CVS. There are two per box. The hard part is finding it...

      Look into over-the-counter rapid tests. BinaxNOW is the best and most affordable available in the US. $14 at WalMart and ~$30 at Walgreens/CVS. There are two per box. The hard part is finding it in stock. It’s not as good as a PCR test but it might help give you some clarity.

      I’m so sorry for your situation. You and your kids deserve better.

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      1. HotPants
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        The BinaxNOW test was used by the white house and is accepted by United... if you pay an extra $120 to have eMed digitally assist you. The two tests are for one person and are much more child...

        The BinaxNOW test was used by the white house and is accepted by United... if you pay an extra $120 to have eMed digitally assist you.

        The two tests are for one person and are much more child friendly.

        You are not required to stick a swab all the way up the nose to the throat for an accurate test, a simple nose swab suffices.

        I actually suspect this must improve real world accuracy.

        You do run the small risk of false positives.

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        ras
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        I’ll see if I can find some. I don’t patronize Walmart, but I’ll see if anywhere else has them. We did check with the independent pharmacy we use and they didn’t have any tests at all.

        I’ll see if I can find some. I don’t patronize Walmart, but I’ll see if anywhere else has them. We did check with the independent pharmacy we use and they didn’t have any tests at all.

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          ras
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          Just checked with Walgreens here, no one has any within a 40 minute drive.

          Just checked with Walgreens here, no one has any within a 40 minute drive.

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          1. kfwyre
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            Sorry to hear that. I know you don’t do Walmart (I don’t either, with the exception of these) but they are currently in stock on their website. Won’t help you out now since you’ll have to wait for...

            Sorry to hear that. I know you don’t do Walmart (I don’t either, with the exception of these) but they are currently in stock on their website. Won’t help you out now since you’ll have to wait for shipping, but it might be worth getting some to keep on hand for future concerns.

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    2. arghdos
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      Depends where you are, but I’ve found that these days going to my local city government’s website where they list all the test providers in the area often yields much sooner test dates at...

      Depends where you are, but I’ve found that these days going to my local city government’s website where they list all the test providers in the area often yields much sooner test dates at non-pharmacy locations (e.g., my last one was at a community center that offers testing for a few hours a day).

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      TheRtRevKaiser
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      That's really bizarre, I can't fathom why the doctor wouldn't give your kids a test. I'd say it sounds like it's time to find a new pediatrician but I know how much of a pain in the ass that can...

      That's really bizarre, I can't fathom why the doctor wouldn't give your kids a test. I'd say it sounds like it's time to find a new pediatrician but I know how much of a pain in the ass that can be, and who wants to go through the hassle of changing doctors right now. I'm sorry you're dealing with that, I hope it all works out.

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      1. ras
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        It'd be nice, but we don't have a ton of choice here. There's one big pediatrics practice (the one we go to) and a small practice that we used to go to that isn't very good.

        It'd be nice, but we don't have a ton of choice here. There's one big pediatrics practice (the one we go to) and a small practice that we used to go to that isn't very good.

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  4. skybrian
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    Brazil's tragic ivermectin frenzy is a warning to the US, experts say […] […]

    Brazil's tragic ivermectin frenzy is a warning to the US, experts say

    Many Brazilians used to spend about $30 a head on what they called the "kit COVID."

    It was a mix of vitamins and other pills that President Jair Bolsonaro touted as early treatments for COVID-19, well before vaccines became widely available to prevent and minimize coronavirus infections.

    Among the "kit" drugs were the malaria pill hydroxychloroquine and the antiparasitic tablet ivermectin.

    […]

    The ivermectin strategy was once so popular in Brazil that entire towns tried it out. (Ivermectin is cheap and available in pharmacies across the country.)

    In July 2020, ivermectin was available for free to all residents of Itajaí, to the tune of about $826,000 in government spending. The mayor of Itajaí, the physician Volnei Morastoni, said at that time that ivermectin was but "one more weapon in our war against the coronavirus."

    […]

    As infection rates soared, some people were taking excessively high doses of the medicine every day, hoping to stave off COVID-19, but in a few rare cases that move prompted liver failure.

    Other patients were unknowingly given the "kit" drugs by doctors in private hospitals instead of more standard treatments — and some of them died.

    Ivermectin "prescription practices didn't upend the tragedy of COVID here in Brazil in terms of preventing infections, preventing hospitalizations, and then preventing deaths," said Dr. Kevan Akrami, an infectious-disease and critical-care physician working in the northeastern city of Salvador. "Whether somebody was taking it or not didn't seem to have any impact on whether or not they got hospitalized or ended up dying from their COVID infection."

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  5. skybrian
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    Desperation, misinformation: how the ivermectin craze spread across the world

    Desperation, misinformation: how the ivermectin craze spread across the world

    With vaccines still in development, desperate physicians soon began administering ivermectin to patients and, despite a lack of evidence of the drug’s effectiveness in treating Covid, Peru’s government included it in treatment guidelines in early May 2020. A frenzy ensued.

    “We ran out of ivermectin in all the pharmacies,” recalled Dr Patricia Garcia, the country’s former health minister. “Then there was a black market, and that’s when things got even worse because the veterinary ivermectin use started.”

    Like several other Latin American countries, Peru in 2020 experienced a dire Covid emergency that overwhelmed its underfunded healthcare system. Many residents turned to self-medicating with ivermectin, Garcia said. Local politicians and television hosts told audiences to take the drug. Some Peruvians began taking ivermectin that was formulated for livestock and administered through injections, and images of people with necrotic tissue on their skin from shots made their way to Garcia’s desk. Evangelical groups touted ivermectin as equivalent to a vaccine, sending volunteers to inject thousands of people in indigenous communities while referring to the drug as a “salvation”.

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  6. eladnarra
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    I got my high risk booster this morning - haven't noticed any symptoms yet aside from a sore arm (which might just be bruising since they hit a vein). Feeling pretty positive about it. Still nerve...

    I got my high risk booster this morning - haven't noticed any symptoms yet aside from a sore arm (which might just be bruising since they hit a vein).

    Feeling pretty positive about it. Still nerve wracking being indoors with the occasional unmasked person, but hopefully my mask was sufficient. I expected to get quizzed on why I qualified since my partner was last week, but I guess the upside to mobility aids is that they make invisible disabilities more visible, haha.

    Anyone else got their booster?

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  7. skybrian
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    FDA authorizes COVID-19 home test from ACON Laboratories, potentially doubling the nation's supply

    FDA authorizes COVID-19 home test from ACON Laboratories, potentially doubling the nation's supply

    The FDA's emergency use authorization of ACON Laboratories' Flowflex COVID-19 home test allows the San Diego-based company to sell its non-prescription test at retail stores as the nation's demand for quick, inexpensive tests soars.

    "As a result of this authorization, we will now have tens of millions of additional tests available in the U.S. marketplace very soon," said Jeff Shuren, director of the FDA’s Center for Devices and Radiological Health told USA TODAY.

    ACON expects to make 100 million tests per month by the end of this year. Production could double to 200 million monthly tests by February, according to the FDA.

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  8. skybrian
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    Thousands of Vietnamese Flee Industrial Areas After Virus Restrictions Ease [...] [...] [...]

    Thousands of Vietnamese Flee Industrial Areas After Virus Restrictions Ease

    Tens of thousands of workers have already left the nation’s commercial hub of Ho Chi Minh City and nearby provinces of Binh Duong, Dong Nai and Long An, the government said on its website. As many as 2.1 million workers in the industrial belt want to return to their home provinces, the government reported, citing data from the public security ministry.

    [...]

    Workers are fixated on the pandemic right now and believe they are safer with family in rural provinces, where they can also find work at factories, the news website Zing reported, citing Chu Tien Dung, head of the Ho Chi Minh City Businesses Association.

    [...]

    The Southeast Asian nation has for years been the second-largest supplier of clothes and shoes to the U.S., according to the American Apparel & Footwear Association, which represents more than 1,000 brands.

    [...]

    Vietnam’s pandemic response has been upended by the delta variant and one of the lowest vaccination rates in the region. Officials have arranged hundreds of buses to transport workers back to rural regions, the government said. Returning workers who are not vaccinated are sent to quarantine centers.

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