I'm posting this because I've previously said that truth doesn't matter to anti-trans campaigners, the lies help them get what they want. This is a good example. There's no evidence that ROGD...
I'm posting this because I've previously said that truth doesn't matter to anti-trans campaigners, the lies help them get what they want. This is a good example. There's no evidence that ROGD exists, the original study was obviously bogus, but it got widely reported on by the UK then US press, and the later corrections and retractions go un-noticed, while the original lies are used to create changes to law.
ROGD was proposed as a gender dysphoria subtype in a 2018 paper by psychologist Lisa Littman, then at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. Littman’s survey asked parents of transgender adolescents—recruited predominantly from anti-transgender websites and forums—to describe their child’s “sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria” and to state if it coincided with increased social media usage or the child’s friends coming out as transgender.
Littman later issued a correction that updated the methodology, including a brief description of the websites and forums, and noted that ROGD is not a formal diagnosis. But the concept had already been taken up in books and podcasts—and by politicians—to promulgate the idea that peer pressure and social media are making kids transgender or that being transgender is a form of mental illness. As legislation targeting trans people has reached an all-time high in the U.S., ROGD’s alleged social contagion has been invoked by lawmakers in states such as Missouri, Utah and Arkansas to justify banning or restricting gender-affirming care for young people.
You've got to be kidding me, it's the Lancet article linking MMR vaccines with autism all over again! I would ask "Have we learned nothing?" but we did learn something, or more specifically the...
You've got to be kidding me, it's the Lancet article linking MMR vaccines with autism all over again! I would ask "Have we learned nothing?" but we did learn something, or more specifically the wrong people learned the wrong thing.
The people who discretely lead the charge, from the background, against mandatory vaccines for the good of the world are now using the same tactics in this new war against the majority of humanity that is trying to move forward with trans acceptance. They don't "Learn" by design, putting the blinders on to any new information that could challenge their preconceived notions of how the world "Should be." So, biasly conceived studies are funded because they know that their supporters wont read any updates, they won't acknowledge the scientific community as a whole denouncing something, they "Learned" what confirmed their brittle perception of reality and they charge forward with it.
Humanity is exhausting sometimes, I have to remind myself that we are literally billions of humans over billions of years are just blindly feeling their way through sentience and literally making all this up as we go. I often wonder if other sentient life in the universe struggle(s/d) like we have.
I used to watch a science news YouTuber called Sabine Hossenfelder. Then, just a few months ago, she did a video on trans stuff titled "is being trans a social fad amongst teenagers?" She paid...
I used to watch a science news YouTuber called Sabine Hossenfelder. Then, just a few months ago, she did a video on trans stuff titled "is being trans a social fad amongst teenagers?"
She paid some lip service to the criticism of ROGD but for some reason put it on a pedestal above other trans research and concluded the video with it fits her intuition and that there's probably some truth to it.
It's saddening how a science communicator can take bad & harmful science so seriously when it lies outside of their specialisation. I don't watch that YTer anymore.
Noooooo She just popped up recently in my YT feed and I really liked the way she explained high level physics. It’s unfortunately really easy to fall into the ego trap that is recognizing your own...
Noooooo
She just popped up recently in my YT feed and I really liked the way she explained high level physics.
It’s unfortunately really easy to fall into the ego trap that is recognizing your own knowledge/intelligence in one field and thinking you can apply that to field you’re a complete amateur in.
she's still good for astrophysics and cosmology discussions, but lately she's been branching her content out to other sciences, and if i recall correctly the issue that's been discussed here (and...
she's still good for astrophysics and cosmology discussions, but lately she's been branching her content out to other sciences, and if i recall correctly the issue that's been discussed here (and one about cannabis) is about as far afield from physics she has gotten so far. i try not to watch her for those topics.
The first time I heard of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) was when I read the absolute drivel that J.K. Rowling wrote to defend her transphobic views. What I will say is I think the rise in...
The first time I heard of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) was when I read the absolute drivel that J.K. Rowling wrote to defend her transphobic views.
What I will say is I think the rise in dysphoria has come in-part to us pushing a society where people are made to feel uncomfortable. Men and women are stereotyped and cast aside from society in their own ways for their own reasons. Is it no surprise then that more individuals are struggling with their identity?
I think like other self discovery, divorce, new job, other flavors of queerness. COVID was a great meditation time to think about your life and not be distracted by the noise of life.
I think like other self discovery, divorce, new job, other flavors of queerness. COVID was a great meditation time to think about your life and not be distracted by the noise of life.
I don't think COVID was a factor, as much as it brought out the worst (and sometimes the best) in people. Someone who I used to consider a good friend and a crush went full anti-vaxx, anti-science...
I don't think COVID was a factor, as much as it brought out the worst (and sometimes the best) in people. Someone who I used to consider a good friend and a crush went full anti-vaxx, anti-science and really showed their true colours during that time.
I do think a greater acceptance of our feelings (that came from decades of the LGBTQ community campaigning for their rights) did contribute, purely for opening up these conversations.
Yeah, that's what happened with my ex and I. She realized that she wanted a manly man and I tried but became depressed. She wouldn't do couples counseling but I went anyway. I figured out that I...
Yeah, that's what happened with my ex and I. She realized that she wanted a manly man and I tried but became depressed. She wouldn't do couples counseling but I went anyway. I figured out that I was trans after she left but it was good she did because I don't think I would have pursued transition if she would have stayed and tried to save the marriage l.
The two studies it links: Age of Realization and Disclosure of Gender Identity Among Transgender Adults Do Clinical Data from Transgender Adolescents Support the Phenomenon of “Rapid Onset Gender...
A substantial proportion of TGD adults reported realizing their gender identity was different from societal expectations based on their sex assigned at birth during adolescence or later. Several years typically elapsed between participants' TGD identity realization and sharing this with another person. The results of this study do not support the ROGD hypothesis.
Although emergence of gender dysphoria at puberty is long established, a distinct pathway of rapid onset gender dysphoria was recently hypothesized based on parental data. Using adolescent clinical data, we tested a series of associations that would be consistent with this pathway, however, our results did not support the rapid onset gender dysphoria hypothesis.
I'm posting this because I've previously said that truth doesn't matter to anti-trans campaigners, the lies help them get what they want. This is a good example. There's no evidence that ROGD exists, the original study was obviously bogus, but it got widely reported on by the UK then US press, and the later corrections and retractions go un-noticed, while the original lies are used to create changes to law.
You've got to be kidding me, it's the Lancet article linking MMR vaccines with autism all over again! I would ask "Have we learned nothing?" but we did learn something, or more specifically the wrong people learned the wrong thing.
The people who discretely lead the charge, from the background, against mandatory vaccines for the good of the world are now using the same tactics in this new war against the majority of humanity that is trying to move forward with trans acceptance. They don't "Learn" by design, putting the blinders on to any new information that could challenge their preconceived notions of how the world "Should be." So, biasly conceived studies are funded because they know that their supporters wont read any updates, they won't acknowledge the scientific community as a whole denouncing something, they "Learned" what confirmed their brittle perception of reality and they charge forward with it.
Humanity is exhausting sometimes, I have to remind myself that we are literally billions of humans over billions of years are just blindly feeling their way through sentience and literally making all this up as we go. I often wonder if other sentient life in the universe struggle(s/d) like we have.
I used to watch a science news YouTuber called Sabine Hossenfelder. Then, just a few months ago, she did a video on trans stuff titled "is being trans a social fad amongst teenagers?"
She paid some lip service to the criticism of ROGD but for some reason put it on a pedestal above other trans research and concluded the video with it fits her intuition and that there's probably some truth to it.
It's saddening how a science communicator can take bad & harmful science so seriously when it lies outside of their specialisation. I don't watch that YTer anymore.
Noooooo
She just popped up recently in my YT feed and I really liked the way she explained high level physics.
It’s unfortunately really easy to fall into the ego trap that is recognizing your own knowledge/intelligence in one field and thinking you can apply that to field you’re a complete amateur in.
she's still good for astrophysics and cosmology discussions, but lately she's been branching her content out to other sciences, and if i recall correctly the issue that's been discussed here (and one about cannabis) is about as far afield from physics she has gotten so far. i try not to watch her for those topics.
The first time I heard of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) was when I read the absolute drivel that J.K. Rowling wrote to defend her transphobic views.
What I will say is I think the rise in dysphoria has come in-part to us pushing a society where people are made to feel uncomfortable. Men and women are stereotyped and cast aside from society in their own ways for their own reasons. Is it no surprise then that more individuals are struggling with their identity?
I think like other self discovery, divorce, new job, other flavors of queerness. COVID was a great meditation time to think about your life and not be distracted by the noise of life.
I don't think COVID was a factor, as much as it brought out the worst (and sometimes the best) in people. Someone who I used to consider a good friend and a crush went full anti-vaxx, anti-science and really showed their true colours during that time.
I do think a greater acceptance of our feelings (that came from decades of the LGBTQ community campaigning for their rights) did contribute, purely for opening up these conversations.
Yea, I mean the lockdown. So much alone time.
Yeah, that's what happened with my ex and I. She realized that she wanted a manly man and I tried but became depressed. She wouldn't do couples counseling but I went anyway. I figured out that I was trans after she left but it was good she did because I don't think I would have pursued transition if she would have stayed and tried to save the marriage l.
The two studies it links:
Age of Realization and Disclosure of Gender Identity Among Transgender Adults
Do Clinical Data from Transgender Adolescents Support the Phenomenon of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria”?