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This is the group with the least subscribers on Tildes
...and if you think about it, people need to actively unsubscribe as this is one of the standard groups on here.
Maybe we should work on what gets posted here — focus less on links and more on healthy discussion and text posts!
Actually, I'm surprised the numbers of subscribers here is so high.
I use the number of subscribers in ~tildes.official as a good guide to the total number of users on Tildes, as it's the group that people are least likely to unsubscribe from; currently, there are 7,462 subscribers in that sub-group.
Meanwhile, there are 4,601 subscribers here in ~lgbt.
That means that about 61% of all Tilders are subscribed to this group.
Even if we take the maximum, most optimistic, estimate of LGBT people in the population of about 10% (which is probably overstated), that means that there are at least 6x the number of people subscribed here as there are LGBT people on Tildes!
Also remember that not everyone is interested in LGBT-related content. Why would straight cisgender people want to see articles that aren't relevant to them?
I don't see anything to be worried about when there are 6x as many subscribers here as we would expect. I think this is a non-issue.
EDIT: Before anyone jumps in: I know the high subscriber base here is an effect of every new user being automatically subscribed to all groups. I'm surprised that more people don't UNsubscribe from this group.
Something to be proud of I think!
I'm not sure I agree this is something to be proud of. It's not really an achievement that people who were automatically subscribed to a group in an alpha testing situation haven't bothered making the effort to unsubscribe. Just look at how many people have not unsubscribed to all those other groups they're not necessarily interested in - this group has lost more subscribers than any other group. Where's the pride in that?
Even if we'd gotten these people to actively choose to subscribe to a group that isn't relevant to them, I'm not sure that would be something to be proud of.
I don't really see the connection between links vs text posts and subscriber count. This being the least subscribed group simply makes sense demographically, regardless of the submission types. I am definitely not opposed to seeing (and participating) in more text and discussion focused posts though. :)
Yea, I just see loads of depressing LGBTQ* news posted in here. Coming from Reddit, I expected more /r/traa or /gaaaaay material.
While discussions and articles (be they serious, not serious, uplifting or lighthearted) are welcome, the mostly low-effort memes and shitposts submissions from those two subreddits are not really appropriate for Tildes, IMO. See the Overall goals doc for why:
And from a comment I made earlier regarding "fluff" content:
Sure, but for me, news articles are more fluff than discussion about oneself. Meaningful text posts is what I'd like to see more on here.
I don't see news articles as fluff at all (unless they are purely political opinion pieces)... but I too would definitely love to see more meaningful text posts, especially here on ~lgbt.
My reasoning is that news articles usually are not read by users (for the sheer flood of them) and are just aggregated from other pages as opposed to OC from Tildes directly. Wouldn't ban them of course, but more text posts would be great. Glad we share that opinion.
I see that as a cultural and site mechanics problem that can and actually should be addressed, not as problem with article submissions themselves. IMO the issue largely stems from a site culture and comment system that still rewards people for making comments when they clearly haven't read the article first and/or have nothing substantive to say regarding it, as well as not rewarding the substantive, thoughtful comments enough from those who have taken the time to actually read the article first. Both of which is precisely what the comment labels on tildes are meant to address. The negative comment labels (joke, noise, offtopic) to discourage those types of usually low quality, low effort comments and reducing their visibility, and the positive comment label (exemplary) to reward exceptional comments by increasing their visibility and letting other users leave a little message of encouragement to the users who made them.
There are lots other ideas for trying to solve this problem as well, such as giving users with high trust more vote weight in their communities, giving votes on longer-to-digest submissions more weight, etc. And as Tildes develops we may see many such systems, designed to encourage quality long-form content and discourage low-effort content, implemented on the site.
I'm not sure you can describe the news articles here as a "sheer flood" when we average less than one post here per day.
Be the change you want to see. :)