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Canada to launch 'digital nomad strategy,' other measures to woo international talent

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  1. [9]
    Shahriar
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    These recent decisions made by the federal government is really worrying to me. It's often touted as a skill shortage, but in reality we've been experiencing a wage issue here in Canada. To the...

    These recent decisions made by the federal government is really worrying to me. It's often touted as a skill shortage, but in reality we've been experiencing a wage issue here in Canada. To the point where we just increased our immigration and population growth to record level of 3% of the population per 12-month average, 1.2 million new residents. We don't have the infrastructure nor housing for this, and it is frightening.

    20 votes
    1. [7]
      zuluwalker
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      Care to elaborate on the "wage issue"? It might be good to hear what the boots on the ground have to say.

      Care to elaborate on the "wage issue"? It might be good to hear what the boots on the ground have to say.

      5 votes
      1. [5]
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        1. zuluwalker
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          Got it, thanks for this. So basically the country has the skilled workforce available but refuses to pay for their skillset, opting for people who'd be happy to be exploited to take their place....

          Got it, thanks for this. So basically the country has the skilled workforce available but refuses to pay for their skillset, opting for people who'd be happy to be exploited to take their place.

          What a shitshow. Thanks for enlightening me.

          10 votes
        2. [2]
          Brodie
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          Same problem in the US. Used to be many white collar companies would get a tax break to hire college grads and train them. Since that bill got repealed an entry level position requires 3 years of...

          Same problem in the US. Used to be many white collar companies would get a tax break to hire college grads and train them. Since that bill got repealed an entry level position requires 3 years of experience and doesn't pay well.

          So when nobody applies for it the company can tell the government that the skills don't exist in the US and hire from abroad for pennies on the dollar.

          5 votes
          1. teaearlgraycold
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            Except for software. Pays well with only a degree and no professional experience. But I don’t see a world where everyone is a software engineer.

            an entry level position requires 3 years of experience and doesn't pay well.

            Except for software. Pays well with only a degree and no professional experience. But I don’t see a world where everyone is a software engineer.

        3. Shahriar
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          Bingo, couldn't have said it any better myself.

          Bingo, couldn't have said it any better myself.

          3 votes
      2. [2]
        m-p-3
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        I'm glad I have a house, because jeez the price of rentals is definitely not sane for the average wage.

        I'm glad I have a house, because jeez the price of rentals is definitely not sane for the average wage.

        3 votes
        1. teaearlgraycold
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          I feel like a rent strike is necessary. They can’t evict everyone.

          I feel like a rent strike is necessary. They can’t evict everyone.

    2. dsh
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      It is worth noting that we have a hodge-podge of jurisdiction when it comes to the real issues (wages, housing) that the federal government seems to have taken a real "hands-off" approach. So as...

      It is worth noting that we have a hodge-podge of jurisdiction when it comes to the real issues (wages, housing) that the federal government seems to have taken a real "hands-off" approach. So as thay want the migrant influx (which is not a bad thing), they are also not responsible for the fallout of it.

      1 vote
  2. skybrian
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    From the article: [...]

    From the article:

    Immigration Minister Sean Fraser announced what he called a "digital nomad strategy" that will allow workers with a foreign employer to stay and work in Canada for up to six months. If they get a job offer while in the country, he said, they can remain in Canada even longer.

    [...]

    The third new program announced Tuesday was specifically aimed at the United States. By July 16, Fraser said, the government will create an open work-permit stream to allow 10,000 American H-1B visa holders to come and work in Canada.

    In its news release, the ministry said the program will also provide for study or work permits for their family members.

    H-1B visas allow foreign nationals to temporarily work in the U.S. in certain specialized occupations, including the technology sector. Tech companies went on a hiring binge during the pandemic but have since starting laying people off in large numbers. That's left a lot of H-1B visa holders scrambling to find new jobs before they're forced to leave the U.S.

    Fraser said he's been watching that dynamic very closely and sees it as an "opportunity" for Canada.

    6 votes
  3. [2]
    RadDevon
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    If I understand, I should ask my employer if I can work remotely from Canada on this new nomad visa. My employer will know that this visa allows me to live in Canada for six months while I look...

    If I understand, I should ask my employer if I can work remotely from Canada on this new nomad visa. My employer will know that this visa allows me to live in Canada for six months while I look for another job. So, I'm effectively asking my employer if I can go work from Canada so that I can try to leave them in six months in order to stay in Canada?

    I don't understand how this is going to draw anyone. If there were a path for me to become a permanent resident of Canada and continue working for my current employer, I would genuinely consider it. Instead, it's already going to cost me more to live in a major Canadian city than just about anywhere else in the US (mostly due to taxes), and you're asking me to go from a US wage down to a Canadian one while asking my employer to make it easier for me to leave them? Who is going to be willing to go out on that limb?

    What am I missing here?

    4 votes
    1. skybrian
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      I'm not really up on immigration issues, but my understanding is that many immigrants in the US don't have permanent status and getting permanent residency can be a long and frustrating process....

      I'm not really up on immigration issues, but my understanding is that many immigrants in the US don't have permanent status and getting permanent residency can be a long and frustrating process. This is especially the case for certain countries like India where US quotas are low compared to demand. If they don't get their visa issues straightened out then they may have to leave.

      If they can go to Canada and keep working for the same company, that might be attractive? (And this won't take a Canadian job immediately when they already have one and are working remotely, though perhaps that eventually changes.)

      For what it's worth, here's a tweet about it.

      2 votes
  4. TheD00d
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    As a "skilled tech worker" (IT operations, security, networking) here in the US, I actually considered moving to Canada to try and find a job. Reasons? The people, the beauty, its no the US, just...

    As a "skilled tech worker" (IT operations, security, networking) here in the US, I actually considered moving to Canada to try and find a job. Reasons? The people, the beauty, its no the US, just to name a few. I had a hard time and ended up staying in my LCoL home state, but I did find the following -

    • The pay was way worse
    • Housing was non-existent/out of my budget
    • Canada's "tech industry" seems to be a lot more immature, for lack of better word, when compared to the US
    • Fewer options in general

    Obviously this is not indicative of everyone's experience and I hope some Canucks can chime in. That being said, as others have pointed out, it seems like Canada is missing critical infrastructure to support its current citizens, how do they expect this to help?

    4 votes
  5. PoweredByCoffee
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    Frankly this new strategy is a bit of a slap in the face to thousands of hard working Canadian public servants. Forcing tens of thousands of people back into the office, only to open up the...

    Frankly this new strategy is a bit of a slap in the face to thousands of hard working Canadian public servants. Forcing tens of thousands of people back into the office, only to open up the process for remote workers to move in. This government feels at odds with itself.

    3 votes
  6. [2]
    fineboi
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    I wish Mexico would do this. I would definitely consider Canada but I’m concerned about the cold but could handle it for a 6 month run to say to have different scenery for ½ a year.

    I wish Mexico would do this. I would definitely consider Canada but I’m concerned about the cold but could handle it for a 6 month run to say to have different scenery for ½ a year.

    1 vote
    1. dsh
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      I may be biased - being born and raised in Northern Ontario - but Southern Ontario does not get that cold (maybe a week of -15 here and there?). And then also out on the West Coast it never really...

      I may be biased - being born and raised in Northern Ontario - but Southern Ontario does not get that cold (maybe a week of -15 here and there?). And then also out on the West Coast it never really dips below zero.

      1 vote