For some reason this kinda has me conflicted, but I haven't been able to put a finger exactly on why. I guess I'm thankful for Denmark doing this, and resentful that, as a gay Romanian, I cannot...
For some reason this kinda has me conflicted, but I haven't been able to put a finger exactly on why. I guess I'm thankful for Denmark doing this, and resentful that, as a gay Romanian, I cannot marry my partner in my own country, having instead to deal with traveling to the other side of Europe, should we ever choose to get married.
I'm also skeptical of the 'worldwide recognition'. I'm sure it applies to straight couples, but for queer couples I'm sure there will be some opposition. I know in my country some institutions refused to accept/recognize marriage certificates between two men, and denied the benefits they would be entitled to as a married couple. (I believe 11 couples filed a lawsuit together, and the ECHR fined Romania for it, but nothing changed since.)
But still, good on Denmark for doing this, and I hope anyone that decided to get married there gets to have an unforgettable moment alongside their loved one.
My spouse and I got married in Denmark! It really was a very easy process. We were already living together in Germany and long-term committed but realized we needed to tie the knot officially to...
My spouse and I got married in Denmark! It really was a very easy process. We were already living together in Germany and long-term committed but realized we needed to tie the knot officially to help with my visa situation. Both Germany and Norway (my wife's home country) would have required both mine and my wife's birth certificates, and getting married in Germany would have delayed it by months and months. I've also found out later that if we'd married in Germany they would have only run the ceremony in German, which neither of us is fluent in.
Meanwhile, since we were flexible about which city, it only took a little over a month to get everything sorted to elope in Denmark, and all we needed was our passports, my residence permit, and the application (along with a little packet of evidence that we were in fact in a romantic relationship, which isn't strictly required but which we were advised the Danish authorities would ask for later anyway if they suspected a marriage of convenience). The man at the city hall who performed the ceremony let us choose to have it in English, and our wedding certificate is in four languages in addition to Danish, meaning we didn't need to have it translated to get it recognized by the Germans.
That's actually awesome, seems like they've thought of a lot of little details like this one. Getting stuff translated (and worse, sometimes converting/getting it recognized by the state) can be a...
our wedding certificate is in four languages in addition to Danish
That's actually awesome, seems like they've thought of a lot of little details like this one. Getting stuff translated (and worse, sometimes converting/getting it recognized by the state) can be a huge hassle sometimes.
My husband and I got married in Gibraltar, and all we needed was our passports and proof from the hotel that we'd spent the previous night together. There were several other couples there getting...
My husband and I got married in Gibraltar, and all we needed was our passports and proof from the hotel that we'd spent the previous night together. There were several other couples there getting married on the same day. They're ahead of Denmark on this one.
I suspect it would have been somewhat more difficult to get my marriage certificate recognized in Germany if we'd gotten married in Gibraltar. It was also cheaper travel for us, of course. And...
I suspect it would have been somewhat more difficult to get my marriage certificate recognized in Germany if we'd gotten married in Gibraltar. It was also cheaper travel for us, of course. And fwiw, when we checked in with the citizen service center the morning of our wedding there were also several other international couples there to get married!
Why would it be more difficult to get it recognized in Germany? We had no trouble getting it recognized in the US. The cheaper travel definitely makes sense, though.
Why would it be more difficult to get it recognized in Germany? We had no trouble getting it recognized in the US.
The cheaper travel definitely makes sense, though.
Because Germany requires any document submitted for official purposes like this to be translated into German if it isn't already in German, and I'd need to pay a certified translator to do it. The...
Because Germany requires any document submitted for official purposes like this to be translated into German if it isn't already in German, and I'd need to pay a certified translator to do it. The Danish marriage certificate was multilingual, so it was already "in German" for those purposes.
It is UK territory, but we got married when the UK was still in the EU. I think Brexit was either looming or the vote had just recently passed because people there were pretty stressed about it.
It is UK territory, but we got married when the UK was still in the EU. I think Brexit was either looming or the vote had just recently passed because people there were pretty stressed about it.
I had no idea it’s so involved to get married in much of the EU. Here in the US we just went to our town hall to get our marriage license. The only requirements were to both be physically present...
I had no idea it’s so involved to get married in much of the EU. Here in the US we just went to our town hall to get our marriage license. The only requirements were to both be physically present to fill out the form, and then pick it up after a 3 day waiting period - maybe we had to show ID? Our officiant was just a friend of ours, who signed the license at the ceremony and then we dropped it back off the next day to be processed. It was basically the easiest and quickest government process I’ve ever been through.
Ah funny, I just got married in Denmark a few days ago exactly because of this. It’s nothing new though, Denmark has always been the Las Vegas of Europe when it comes to marriage. The 1936 treaty...
Ah funny, I just got married in Denmark a few days ago exactly because of this. It’s nothing new though, Denmark has always been the Las Vegas of Europe when it comes to marriage. The 1936 treaty it has with Germany makes it particularly beneficial to anyone living in Germany - it’s automatically recognized without extra paperwork.
For some reason this kinda has me conflicted, but I haven't been able to put a finger exactly on why. I guess I'm thankful for Denmark doing this, and resentful that, as a gay Romanian, I cannot marry my partner in my own country, having instead to deal with traveling to the other side of Europe, should we ever choose to get married.
I'm also skeptical of the 'worldwide recognition'. I'm sure it applies to straight couples, but for queer couples I'm sure there will be some opposition. I know in my country some institutions refused to accept/recognize marriage certificates between two men, and denied the benefits they would be entitled to as a married couple. (I believe 11 couples filed a lawsuit together, and the ECHR fined Romania for it, but nothing changed since.)
But still, good on Denmark for doing this, and I hope anyone that decided to get married there gets to have an unforgettable moment alongside their loved one.
My spouse and I got married in Denmark! It really was a very easy process. We were already living together in Germany and long-term committed but realized we needed to tie the knot officially to help with my visa situation. Both Germany and Norway (my wife's home country) would have required both mine and my wife's birth certificates, and getting married in Germany would have delayed it by months and months. I've also found out later that if we'd married in Germany they would have only run the ceremony in German, which neither of us is fluent in.
Meanwhile, since we were flexible about which city, it only took a little over a month to get everything sorted to elope in Denmark, and all we needed was our passports, my residence permit, and the application (along with a little packet of evidence that we were in fact in a romantic relationship, which isn't strictly required but which we were advised the Danish authorities would ask for later anyway if they suspected a marriage of convenience). The man at the city hall who performed the ceremony let us choose to have it in English, and our wedding certificate is in four languages in addition to Danish, meaning we didn't need to have it translated to get it recognized by the Germans.
That's actually awesome, seems like they've thought of a lot of little details like this one. Getting stuff translated (and worse, sometimes converting/getting it recognized by the state) can be a huge hassle sometimes.
Oh yeah this was one of the biggest benefits. The Germans are serious about certifying translations, so getting it translated would've been expensive.
I’m in the same boat! It really saved us a bunch of paperwork!
My husband and I got married in Gibraltar, and all we needed was our passports and proof from the hotel that we'd spent the previous night together. There were several other couples there getting married on the same day. They're ahead of Denmark on this one.
I suspect it would have been somewhat more difficult to get my marriage certificate recognized in Germany if we'd gotten married in Gibraltar. It was also cheaper travel for us, of course. And fwiw, when we checked in with the citizen service center the morning of our wedding there were also several other international couples there to get married!
Why would it be more difficult to get it recognized in Germany? We had no trouble getting it recognized in the US.
The cheaper travel definitely makes sense, though.
Because Germany requires any document submitted for official purposes like this to be translated into German if it isn't already in German, and I'd need to pay a certified translator to do it. The Danish marriage certificate was multilingual, so it was already "in German" for those purposes.
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. We only needed it to be in English, so doing it in a UK territory worked well for us.
Is Gibraltar still part of the EU? I had thought that it was UK territory, but admit I haven't kept up with the technicalities since the early 1900s.
It is UK territory, but we got married when the UK was still in the EU. I think Brexit was either looming or the vote had just recently passed because people there were pretty stressed about it.
I had no idea it’s so involved to get married in much of the EU. Here in the US we just went to our town hall to get our marriage license. The only requirements were to both be physically present to fill out the form, and then pick it up after a 3 day waiting period - maybe we had to show ID? Our officiant was just a friend of ours, who signed the license at the ceremony and then we dropped it back off the next day to be processed. It was basically the easiest and quickest government process I’ve ever been through.
I think a lot of the people getting married in Denmark are people for whom it is more complex than average, like international couples.
Ah funny, I just got married in Denmark a few days ago exactly because of this. It’s nothing new though, Denmark has always been the Las Vegas of Europe when it comes to marriage. The 1936 treaty it has with Germany makes it particularly beneficial to anyone living in Germany - it’s automatically recognized without extra paperwork.