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Guess what? Tony P hates you, too.

8 comments

  1. [3]
    AnthonyB
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    [meta/off-topic] normally I leave myself at the mercy of the gods, but ~tech? This a profile of a hyper-niche social media personality. It's a human interest piece. Right now the other posts in...

    [meta/off-topic] normally I leave myself at the mercy of the gods, but ~tech? This a profile of a hyper-niche social media personality. It's a human interest piece. Right now the other posts in this group are about AI and computer hardware. How is this tech related?

    11 votes
    1. [2]
      mycketforvirrad
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      social media gets placed in ~tech by default, but I've moved this into ~life.

      social media gets placed in ~tech by default, but I've moved this into ~life.

      9 votes
      1. AnthonyB
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        Oof. 8 years and I still don't understand the basic functions of this site. Thank you

        Oof. 8 years and I still don't understand the basic functions of this site. Thank you

        3 votes
  2. kacey
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    Ah, that explains it.

    Mention him to most people and they’ll look at you with confusion, perhaps wondering why you’re asking them about what sounds like a Bachelorette contestant. But among young people in the DC area, the 27-year-old seems to have greater name recognition than any member of the Washington Wizards.

    Ah, that explains it.

    7 votes
  3. [4]
    AnthonyB
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    I did not know the man on the screen, but I saw him all the time.

    He’d pop up between other things in my Instagram feed: a guy playing golf, a beautiful woman, a hand running a knife sideways over the crispy skin of a piece of pork belly. I watched him walk toward the camera and point at his outfit—lavender shirt, blue slacks, purple tie—before cracking an awkward smile and crossing his arms. I watched him make dinner. That was disconcerting. He didn’t seem to be much of a cook; I’d never seen someone chop with such hesitation. He talked about how he spent his time in Washington, a city I knew pretty well. But he never did much of anything I hadn’t thought of before.

    Other people started sending me videos of the man on the screen. Why is he smiling like that? Why is he putting the oil on the salmon that way? Why is he so excited about this new-development restaurant? Is this some kind of elaborate bit? I wasn’t sure, even as I kept seeing him more and more. The Washington Post profiled him and assured readers it wasn’t a bit.

    The man on the screen tagged all the brands in his posts. A baseball team, a shoe company, a fast-casual food chain, an ice-cream company, a local golf course. It was hard to tell what he was being paid for and what was just a public attempt to get some free stuff. Either way, the getting seemed good. A sandwich chain flew him out to the Midwest. A ticket company sent him to a football game. He got a promo code that was also his name.

    The man on the screen drew the attention of somebody on Capitol Hill. The Democratic Party was starting to panic about reaching younger people, so a senator in his late sixties ended up in a video awkwardly crossing his arms with the man on the screen. That was his thing now, the arm-crossing. He called it the “arm roll.” He had another thing, too. He called it “vibrant masculinity.” The concept wasn’t fully baked—it seemed to be about being a kind man who sometimes wore a flashy tie. Nevertheless, a few months later, he talked to another senator, a younger one who seemed to have his eyes on the presidency, about being a man.

    Some people in the comments had always made fun of the man on the screen. Over time, their derision became the main attraction. They mocked his hair, his gait, the way he chose to play a Wheel of Fortune simulator after dinner. They sexualized him to belittle him: Don’t let my wife see this. It was funny, you see, because he was cleaning his apartment and talking about how he was practicing to be a caregiver for a family that he would have one day but that currently did not exist. It would have been easier to just watch the video, wonder what the point of it was, and move on, but these people kept at it. Eventually, they settled on a refrain that grew louder and louder. Hog reveal? Meaning his penis.

    The man on the screen paid them no mind, at least as far as I could tell. He kept posting. He did a six-month campaign for a famous coffee-and-doughnut chain, which ended in a post about his dead grandmother and all the places he’d had coffee and doughnuts with her when he was a child. The comments were brutal. You’re pimping out your dead grandma for cash? He took the post down. The chain was cool with that. Later, though, he would tell me he regretted nothing—that his grandmother, pimped out or not, was laughing in heaven. Besides, the campaign paid him roughly $45,000.

    Sometimes I wondered how the man on the screen lived with all of this.

    6 votes
    1. [3]
      286437714
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      Thanks for this. I'd completely forgotten about Tony P and genuinely wondered where he'd ended up when I saw this was about him. It's a very sad read, though.

      Thanks for this. I'd completely forgotten about Tony P and genuinely wondered where he'd ended up when I saw this was about him.

      It's a very sad read, though.

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        AnthonyB
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        I was wondering if anyone on here had ever heard of him. You surprise me every day, 286437714. And yes, I had the same takeaway after reading this. When he first came across my feed ~3 years ago,...

        I was wondering if anyone on here had ever heard of him. You surprise me every day, 286437714. And yes, I had the same takeaway after reading this.

        When he first came across my feed ~3 years ago, I was mystified. Like the author, I couldn't tell if it was performance art, incredibly subtle alt comedy, or just a socially inept person who was unable to fully grasp how he was coming off. I was sad to learn it was none of the above. At least he hasn't abandoned the positivity angle in favor of some reactionary manosphere bs.

        2 votes
        1. 286437714
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          I think he ended up on my feed because (pre-Trump) Washington was a very desirable non-conflict posting, and it was often offered up as a reward if a person got promoted, especially after...

          I think he ended up on my feed because (pre-Trump) Washington was a very desirable non-conflict posting, and it was often offered up as a reward if a person got promoted, especially after returning from something difficult. The Washington job used to be collaborating on transnational operations and meetings that amounted to "Still allies?", "Yep!". Not so much anymore. It's punishment now.

          But I had a lot of colleagues and friends who were either in and around the DC area or had lived there and returned, and we're roughly Tony P's age. Well, older, old enough to see him in a bar and wonder the same things you did. I think a friend and I settled on socially inept as our answer to analyzing competing hypotheses. We felt sorry for him but (mostly) saw positivity in the comments, and we interpreted his 'haters' as people making good-humored jokes that weren't necessarily at his expense.

          The fact that he wasn't a performance artist and he did take it all to heart is upsetting. Just another example of how the algorithm doesn't care who you are and Meta causing more social harm. Like you, I'm glad he's not a 'blackpilled' podcaster now or something.

          I think the article brings up some really interesting economics of influencers, and especially the 15 minutes of fame kind. Half a million USD that early in your career is amazing, but quitting his job to be the next (I don't know?) seems sad.

          Tangentially, an extended family member works in fancy fashion world, and we have talked about influencers a lot. Even the non-mainstream ones make a very good living on brand deals and the like. But as this family member said, most of them are young girls who are very pretty, "and eventually, they won't be anymore."

          Reminds me a bit of how the NFL Player's Association has mandatory financial education for new draftees so they can say they tried. I don't think there's an influencer's union, though, and I find myself worrying for the mental health and financial future of these people. The only YouTuber I followed quit the platform after years of constant sexual harrassment, rape threats, and death threats, and wrote at length about trying to keep up with the algorithm and how hard it was to manage money.

          Then I remember how many billions of people around the world are without clean water or reliable food and feel bad for spending brain cycles on worrying about rich people in their 20's. But people are people, and this is just another sad story of an industry that I certainly don't understand.

          1 vote