I blame Marvel for popularizing this approach and taking it to such an absurd extent as to make ripples through the whole cinematographic industry and ruin perfectly watchable productions for...
There's no winking at the camera, or jokes during scenes of tension or conflict.
I blame Marvel for popularizing this approach and taking it to such an absurd extent as to make ripples through the whole cinematographic industry and ruin perfectly watchable productions for decades. The poster child of this enshitification, tiktokization if you will, of film making for audiences with dopamine addiction is what to me is likely the worst movie in the history of cinema: Deadpool.
Deadpool isn't terrible because it's just bad, it's egregious because the whole premise of the movie is what what makes it unwatchable. It isn't that a mistake was made here and there, or that there's a plot blind spot here or there, or perhaps the effects are subpar: the very way it was written, directed, filmed and marketed is a "meta joke"wink winksmirk smirk
Interesting perspective on Deadpool. From what I understood, the movie was very true to the source material. I thought the first movie was hilarious, later ones much less so. I also thought it was...
Interesting perspective on Deadpool. From what I understood, the movie was very true to the source material. I thought the first movie was hilarious, later ones much less so.
I also thought it was the best modern version of ZAZ and Brooks movies, which picked up the thread of the Marx Bros, themselves in debt to Buster Keaton.
While I enjoyed the film (mainly because I love Ryan Reynolds), I felt someone else put it best: "Deadpool is the 'i can haz cheezburger' meme made into a comic character." I think that more or...
Interesting perspective on Deadpool. From what I understood, the movie was very true to the source material. I thought the first movie was hilarious, later ones much less so.
While I enjoyed the film (mainly because I love Ryan Reynolds), I felt someone else put it best: "Deadpool is the 'i can haz cheezburger' meme made into a comic character." I think that more or less encapsulates why on the whole I just don't really vibe with the character. That said, as far as the character itself goes, I think the movie was a brilliant translation of it to the screen.
Interesting is putting it mildly, it's extremely unpopular among my friends. I am by no mean a comic or Deadpool connoisseur, and I actually have nothing against the concept of a goofy anti-hero....
Interesting perspective on Deadpool
Interesting is putting it mildly, it's extremely unpopular among my friends.
From what I understood, the movie was very true to the source material.
I am by no mean a comic or Deadpool connoisseur, and I actually have nothing against the concept of a goofy anti-hero. What I do have a humongous problem with is trying to replicate the same style that probably worked for a, well, freaking goofy antihero in other material, with other characters and other productions which people who are not looking for goofy antiheroes wanted to enjoy.
In other words, I despise Deadpool not because of what it is but what it proved profitable and the cookie-cutter mold it provided and was indeed replicated ad infinitum by others. Yes, I still believe Deadpool is a terrible movie that constantly leads this senseless meta-conversation with the audience, yes. That is, however, not its worst crime, attempting to turn every production into a deadpool-like chimera is the real crime.
Is this Deadpool's crime or the industry? I understand disliking the film for it's impacts on the industry, full disclosure I like Deadpool, but extrapolating Deadpool's imitators as part of it's...
That is, however, not its worst crime, attempting to turn every production into a deadpool-like chimera is the real crime.
Is this Deadpool's crime or the industry? I understand disliking the film for it's impacts on the industry, full disclosure I like Deadpool, but extrapolating Deadpool's imitators as part of it's sins is excessive.
Unless Reynolds was involved, then the Deadpool in him might have leaked to other projects (See, Free Guy.)
I agree, it's a tad excessive, but what can I do, I just shot the messenger upon sight :)
Is this Deadpool's crime or the industry? I understand disliking the film for it's impacts on the industry, full disclosure I like Deadpool, but extrapolating Deadpool's imitators as part of it's sins is excessive.
I agree, it's a tad excessive, but what can I do, I just shot the messenger upon sight :)
One of Deadpool's literal superpowers is "Fourth wall breaks". He's been around since the 1990's, so he also predates the cheezburger meme by almost a few decades. His whole schtick for 30 years...
I am by no mean a comic or Deadpool connoisseur, and I actually have nothing against the concept of a goofy anti-hero.
One of Deadpool's literal superpowers is "Fourth wall breaks". He's been around since the 1990's, so he also predates the cheezburger meme by almost a few decades.
His whole schtick for 30 years has been winking at the camera, only in comics. The movies did exactly what the comics had always been doing and Ryan Reynolds was the only one who could do it - partly because in a 2004 Deadpool comic he described himself as "Ryan Reynolds crossed with a Shar-Pei" =)
I think Deadpool is the wrong movie to levy this criticism against. I know that you said you’re not a comic fan so you may not be aware but Deadpool is unique in the Marvel universe in that one of...
I think Deadpool is the wrong movie to levy this criticism against. I know that you said you’re not a comic fan so you may not be aware but Deadpool is unique in the Marvel universe in that one of his superpowers, literally, is that he’s aware that he is a character in a comic book and can, therefore, break the fourth wall. It’s 100% consistent with the character for that type of thing to extend to his movie.
Otherwise, I agree with your point about the rest of the Marvel films. I feel like Joss Whedon shoulders the blame for the wink wink nudge nudge bullshit that permeated all the Marvel films after the first Avengers.
Deadpool is, like, the only Marvel movie that is actually a comedy instead of just being a superhero film with badly written comedy in it. Nobody cares about the actual story in Deadpool and...
Deadpool is, like, the only Marvel movie that is actually a comedy instead of just being a superhero film with badly written comedy in it.
Nobody cares about the actual story in Deadpool and that's kind of the point.
That’s a great point and reinforces mine even more because that’s kind of how the comic books are too. The writers will literally toss consistency and story out the window just because Deadpool,...
That’s a great point and reinforces mine even more because that’s kind of how the comic books are too. The writers will literally toss consistency and story out the window just because Deadpool, as a comic character, thinks whatever he wants to do is more fun or exciting. It’s great comedy, imo.
It’s a fantastic premise and, if you’re ever curious, I really do recommend some of the stories, especially Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe. It kind of makes me wish that they just ended the...
It’s a fantastic premise and, if you’re ever curious, I really do recommend some of the stories, especially Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe. It kind of makes me wish that they just ended the Marvel Cinematic Universe now by having Deadpool kill them all. The comic is very meta and the ending of the book is very in line with that.
I saw some videos which said that's what Deadpool 3 is about, him killing variants of the entire Marvel Universe. Which is a big let down for me, imo. I think they could've used this story to do a...
I saw some videos which said that's what Deadpool 3 is about, him killing variants of the entire Marvel Universe.
Which is a big let down for me, imo. I think they could've used this story to do a clean reset of the whole thing. The whole inter-connectedness of Marvel is a burden at this point, and I think they would do well to take a step back and re-assess the direction they want to take.
Movies are going for smart-ass humor nowadays because directors and producers think people want to feel that they are part of this small in-group of counter-intellectual elites. Though... there...
Movies are going for smart-ass humor nowadays because directors and producers think people want to feel that they are part of this small in-group of counter-intellectual elites. Though... there has been a growing mainstream consciousness of said smart-ass personality.
Not to mention, the "macho" culture is trying to make a supposed come back due to false sense of intellectual gotchas by the Right on the Left.
Adam DeVine (of Workaholics fame) recently made a comment about Marvel humor and the fanbase tried to rip his head off and shit down his neck. What he said was right on the money though. He said...
Adam DeVine (of Workaholics fame) recently made a comment about Marvel humor and the fanbase tried to rip his head off and shit down his neck.
What he said was right on the money though. He said that Marvel/similar superhero movies have shoved in enough winky corny moments to become the de facto comedies in movie theatres. Dramas still largely hit theatres, animated movies, horror stuff... but comedies have largely moved to streaming services because they now "compete" with the homogenous Marvel/Star Wars stuff. Average Guy who might have gone to the theatres and previously would have chosen your average comedy movie now chooses to see a Marvel movie instead, and barely any actual comedies hit movie theatres at all these days and the ones that do usually do badly... yet they remain popular on streaming. People going to the theatres often seem to go for the big bombastic stuff and Marvel maintaining a jokey tone (even if the comedy is awful) satiates the laugh factor for some people.
Movie theatre comedy is basically dead at this point. Marvel isn't the only reason but it's a big part of it. The evaporation of home video sales doesn't help.
I think part of this is the "missing middle" -problem of movies. Nobody makes mid-budget movies anymore. On the other hand I've been going to the movies less since the pandemic, because everything...
Movie theatre comedy is basically dead at this point.
I think part of this is the "missing middle" -problem of movies. Nobody makes mid-budget movies anymore.
On the other hand I've been going to the movies less since the pandemic, because everything is out on streaming before I can drag my ass to the movie theatre. And even before the pandemic I didn't want to pay a bunch of money to see a comedy anyway, because there's no way to tell if it's actually funny or not beforehand. I actually can't remember the last time I specifically went to see a comedy in the movies. Naked Gun 33 1/3 might've been the last one.
There's also no FOMO in watching movies. With the superhero genre you "must" watch the movie promptly or you'll get spoiled and can't take part in the conversation.
Probably "gotcha there smart-ass, haha" type of twitter-style online conversations which pass as "debate" among extremes of the political spectrum and have started to tarnish our real-life...
What is it you're referring to?
Probably "gotcha there smart-ass, haha" type of twitter-style online conversations which pass as "debate" among extremes of the political spectrum and have started to tarnish our real-life interactions.
10 kids die in mass shooting and are displayed for all to see on television
The Left: "but would someone please think of the innocent good people who bear AR-15s and just want to protect their family, including the rights of their psycho, murderous teenagers right to f*ck up everyone at school!"
Transgender 20 year old who underwent hormone treatment at age 13 sues doctors for negligence
The Right: "but would someone please think of our future supply of t*** porn? Allowing unsuspecting ideologically abused children to sue doctors endangers our future supply of t****!"
In general I would say so, at least I don't see how it would have any direct, bi-directional relation to sexism. I say bi-directional because although the toxic debate culture on the Right might...
But that doesn't seem to have any relation to stereotyped gender roles, right?
In general I would say so, at least I don't see how it would have any direct, bi-directional relation to sexism.
I say bi-directional because although the toxic debate culture on the Right might be perceived as coming from a predominantly machista edge of the political landscape, tate-ists, trump-ists, etc, who do indeed tend to be woman-hating, it is not exclusive to them. Staunch libertarians may have equally poor debate manners but not be followers of tate, trump or the chauvinist du jour. Same on the Left, it's quite likely that all radical, man-hating alleged feminists who truly believe "kill all men" are in favor of gun-control, but not everyone on the left who would ridicule legal gun possession hates men.
Yes, this is why I enjoy films like Chappie, Elysium, or Oblivion - I love the world building, even if the rest of it feels a bt thin.
I love all sorts of different movies, but Maverick and The Creator remind me of why I fell in love with movies in the first place. They create a world and ask me to take it seriously.
Yes, this is why I enjoy films like Chappie, Elysium, or Oblivion - I love the world building, even if the rest of it feels a bt thin.
I left the theater thinking The Creator was right in the same caliber of film as Elysium and Oblivion. I'm not a fan of any of the 3, but there's a genre of sci-fi that is like "short story"...
I left the theater thinking The Creator was right in the same caliber of film as Elysium and Oblivion. I'm not a fan of any of the 3, but there's a genre of sci-fi that is like "short story" territory that provides a small vignette of a larger world and doesn't explore much beyond one character's simple journey within it. They make for great special effects showcases, though.
Movies, series and games aswell nowadays are content instead of a dream of an artist. They have quota to fill to keep up with some release schedule, and it gets pushed out the door when it is good...
Movies, series and games aswell nowadays are content instead of a dream of an artist. They have quota to fill to keep up with some release schedule, and it gets pushed out the door when it is good enough. This is why there is so much run of the mill stuff to watch.
Content is transactional; stories are relational. The intention people put into what they make comes through, and although you can have an entire team of extremely talented people put a lot of...
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Content is transactional; stories are relational.
The intention people put into what they make comes through, and although you can have an entire team of extremely talented people put a lot of work into a film that is well-received at the box office, it still comes across as somewhat lacking, empty, or flat because they're not telling you a story, they're ultimately just creating content so you'll give them your money. In years (decades?) past, stories were the point, and we would pay money to see them; now a significant number of films have stories that are a means to an end, and that end is cash. Risky ideas get flattened out in board rooms and focus groups, and trying to apply to the broadest number averages out a work to the point where it's... well, average.
Do we really believe this? Bad movies, tv and games have existed in large numbers since the dawn of each medium, we just forget about them. It's not even the point of the video, which is about...
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Do we really believe this? Bad movies, tv and games have existed in large numbers since the dawn of each medium, we just forget about them.
It's not even the point of the video, which is about modernisms, not 'modern stuff bad'.
It lists plenty of fantastic movies released in just the last few years, and the intentions (or 'dreams', if you prefer) of the writers/directors.
I definitely feel that with CGI effects that somehow seems to look worse now even though I know the technology has gotten better. But clearly, the studios can get away with a "ah good enough"...
I definitely feel that with CGI effects that somehow seems to look worse now even though I know the technology has gotten better. But clearly, the studios can get away with a "ah good enough" mentality, and it clearly shows that the good people working on these productions are less and less allowed to put some professional pride into their work. Everything can be "fixed in post", so why bother much with laying the groundwork with a good pre-production.
With the risk of sounding like a film snob, I feel less and less engaged with movies nowadays that are filmed digitally. Not so much because of the look, though that is a factor also, but having all these digital tools often leads to lazy filmmaking. The modern movies I do tend to like, with some notable exceptions of course, are often by auteur directors still insisting on shooting on film.
One of the things that endlessly bothers me is that these sorts of films constantly defy the conservation of matter without any pretense. Movie physics were already questionable for the past few...
One of the things that endlessly bothers me is that these sorts of films constantly defy the conservation of matter without any pretense. Movie physics were already questionable for the past few decades, but the Iron Man 2 briefcase and now dissolving masks/helmets are a bridge too far.
We're not being asked to suspend disbelief deliberately, for a TARDIS or something. The status quo is simply that hats disappear into thin air and the Men in Black car can unfold weapons out of impossibly small spaces.
Yeah it's sort of the "quantum" prefix issue. Time travel, infinite energy, mutable mass, all kinds of things can get handwaved with the sci-fi equivalent of "magic" and it's hard to get invested...
Yeah it's sort of the "quantum" prefix issue. Time travel, infinite energy, mutable mass, all kinds of things can get handwaved with the sci-fi equivalent of "magic" and it's hard to get invested in stakes with such a loose rule system.
Thank you for sharing this. I found his analysis to be kind of fascinating (in addition to being well-produced -- I especially liked the metamodern skit). I've been a fan of "arthouse" and foreign...
Thank you for sharing this. I found his analysis to be kind of fascinating (in addition to being well-produced -- I especially liked the metamodern skit). I've been a fan of "arthouse" and foreign movies most of my life, but haven't spent a lot of time trying to analyze that fandom or the movies that I've seen. Watching this I recognized and found myself agreeing with a lot of the points he was making. I think I have a better understanding of some of my reactions to movies that I've seen, particularly ones that I recognized were "good" but left feeling like I was clearly missing something.
I thought it was also interesting that he interposes clips of films as illustrations of the point he is making, but without introduction - the viewer has to not only know which film it is from, but had to have seen it (and remember it!) to understand why it is relevant. The Bo Burnham: Inside clips were what really popped out and made me recognize that was going on.
I just want to add to anyone else who likes these kinds of videos on film, I can recommend FilmStack on YouTube who also recently did a series analysing the different feel of various decades of...
I personally disliked this video, as it looks at everything through a single, narrow lens of either modernism, post modernism and meta modernism.... But, I just had my mind blown..... The...
I personally disliked this video, as it looks at everything through a single, narrow lens of either modernism, post modernism and meta modernism.... But, I just had my mind blown.....
The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar is a very recent Netflix adaption of a Roald Dahl short story, that completely breaks down the fourth wall.
The original story, is a story within a story within a story.
The Netflix Adaption is a movie, of a play, about a story within a story within a story.
I just watched Asteroid City. Yet another example of this weird ass meta modernism concept. Now I am looking at everything through the lens of post modernism and meta modernism, and I hate it.
I just watched Asteroid City. Yet another example of this weird ass meta modernism concept. Now I am looking at everything through the lens of post modernism and meta modernism, and I hate it.
I blame Marvel for popularizing this approach and taking it to such an absurd extent as to make ripples through the whole cinematographic industry and ruin perfectly watchable productions for decades. The poster child of this enshitification, tiktokization if you will, of film making for audiences with dopamine addiction is what to me is likely the worst movie in the history of cinema: Deadpool.
Deadpool isn't terrible because it's just bad, it's egregious because the whole premise of the movie is what what makes it unwatchable. It isn't that a mistake was made here and there, or that there's a plot blind spot here or there, or perhaps the effects are subpar: the very way it was written, directed, filmed and marketed is a "meta joke" wink wink smirk smirk
Interesting perspective on Deadpool. From what I understood, the movie was very true to the source material. I thought the first movie was hilarious, later ones much less so.
I also thought it was the best modern version of ZAZ and Brooks movies, which picked up the thread of the Marx Bros, themselves in debt to Buster Keaton.
While I enjoyed the film (mainly because I love Ryan Reynolds), I felt someone else put it best: "Deadpool is the 'i can haz cheezburger' meme made into a comic character." I think that more or less encapsulates why on the whole I just don't really vibe with the character. That said, as far as the character itself goes, I think the movie was a brilliant translation of it to the screen.
Interesting is putting it mildly, it's extremely unpopular among my friends.
I am by no mean a comic or Deadpool connoisseur, and I actually have nothing against the concept of a goofy anti-hero. What I do have a humongous problem with is trying to replicate the same style that probably worked for a, well, freaking goofy antihero in other material, with other characters and other productions which people who are not looking for goofy antiheroes wanted to enjoy.
In other words, I despise Deadpool not because of what it is but what it proved profitable and the cookie-cutter mold it provided and was indeed replicated ad infinitum by others. Yes, I still believe Deadpool is a terrible movie that constantly leads this senseless meta-conversation with the audience, yes. That is, however, not its worst crime, attempting to turn every production into a deadpool-like chimera is the real crime.
Is this Deadpool's crime or the industry? I understand disliking the film for it's impacts on the industry, full disclosure I like Deadpool, but extrapolating Deadpool's imitators as part of it's sins is excessive.
Unless Reynolds was involved, then the Deadpool in him might have leaked to other projects (See, Free Guy.)
I agree, it's a tad excessive, but what can I do, I just shot the messenger upon sight :)
One of Deadpool's literal superpowers is "Fourth wall breaks". He's been around since the 1990's, so he also predates the cheezburger meme by almost a few decades.
His whole schtick for 30 years has been winking at the camera, only in comics. The movies did exactly what the comics had always been doing and Ryan Reynolds was the only one who could do it - partly because in a 2004 Deadpool comic he described himself as "Ryan Reynolds crossed with a Shar-Pei" =)
I think Deadpool is the wrong movie to levy this criticism against. I know that you said you’re not a comic fan so you may not be aware but Deadpool is unique in the Marvel universe in that one of his superpowers, literally, is that he’s aware that he is a character in a comic book and can, therefore, break the fourth wall. It’s 100% consistent with the character for that type of thing to extend to his movie.
Otherwise, I agree with your point about the rest of the Marvel films. I feel like Joss Whedon shoulders the blame for the wink wink nudge nudge bullshit that permeated all the Marvel films after the first Avengers.
Deadpool is, like, the only Marvel movie that is actually a comedy instead of just being a superhero film with badly written comedy in it.
Nobody cares about the actual story in Deadpool and that's kind of the point.
That’s a great point and reinforces mine even more because that’s kind of how the comic books are too. The writers will literally toss consistency and story out the window just because Deadpool, as a comic character, thinks whatever he wants to do is more fun or exciting. It’s great comedy, imo.
This is mind-blowing, I wonder how the writer came up with that idea, pretty neat!
It’s a fantastic premise and, if you’re ever curious, I really do recommend some of the stories, especially Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe. It kind of makes me wish that they just ended the Marvel Cinematic Universe now by having Deadpool kill them all. The comic is very meta and the ending of the book is very in line with that.
I saw some videos which said that's what Deadpool 3 is about, him killing variants of the entire Marvel Universe.
Which is a big let down for me, imo. I think they could've used this story to do a clean reset of the whole thing. The whole inter-connectedness of Marvel is a burden at this point, and I think they would do well to take a step back and re-assess the direction they want to take.
Movies are going for smart-ass humor nowadays because directors and producers think people want to feel that they are part of this small in-group of counter-intellectual elites. Though... there has been a growing mainstream consciousness of said smart-ass personality.
Not to mention, the "macho" culture is trying to make a supposed come back due to false sense of intellectual gotchas by the Right on the Left.
Adam DeVine (of Workaholics fame) recently made a comment about Marvel humor and the fanbase tried to rip his head off and shit down his neck.
What he said was right on the money though. He said that Marvel/similar superhero movies have shoved in enough winky corny moments to become the de facto comedies in movie theatres. Dramas still largely hit theatres, animated movies, horror stuff... but comedies have largely moved to streaming services because they now "compete" with the homogenous Marvel/Star Wars stuff. Average Guy who might have gone to the theatres and previously would have chosen your average comedy movie now chooses to see a Marvel movie instead, and barely any actual comedies hit movie theatres at all these days and the ones that do usually do badly... yet they remain popular on streaming. People going to the theatres often seem to go for the big bombastic stuff and Marvel maintaining a jokey tone (even if the comedy is awful) satiates the laugh factor for some people.
Movie theatre comedy is basically dead at this point. Marvel isn't the only reason but it's a big part of it. The evaporation of home video sales doesn't help.
I think part of this is the "missing middle" -problem of movies. Nobody makes mid-budget movies anymore.
On the other hand I've been going to the movies less since the pandemic, because everything is out on streaming before I can drag my ass to the movie theatre. And even before the pandemic I didn't want to pay a bunch of money to see a comedy anyway, because there's no way to tell if it's actually funny or not beforehand. I actually can't remember the last time I specifically went to see a comedy in the movies. Naked Gun 33 1/3 might've been the last one.
There's also no FOMO in watching movies. With the superhero genre you "must" watch the movie promptly or you'll get spoiled and can't take part in the conversation.
Probably "gotcha there smart-ass, haha" type of twitter-style online conversations which pass as "debate" among extremes of the political spectrum and have started to tarnish our real-life interactions.
10 kids die in mass shooting and are displayed for all to see on television
The Left: "but would someone please think of the innocent good people who bear AR-15s and just want to protect their family, including the rights of their psycho, murderous teenagers right to f*ck up everyone at school!"
Transgender 20 year old who underwent hormone treatment at age 13 sues doctors for negligence
The Right: "but would someone please think of our future supply of t*** porn? Allowing unsuspecting ideologically abused children to sue doctors endangers our future supply of t****!"
In general I would say so, at least I don't see how it would have any direct, bi-directional relation to sexism.
I say bi-directional because although the toxic debate culture on the Right might be perceived as coming from a predominantly machista edge of the political landscape, tate-ists, trump-ists, etc, who do indeed tend to be woman-hating, it is not exclusive to them. Staunch libertarians may have equally poor debate manners but not be followers of tate, trump or the chauvinist du jour. Same on the Left, it's quite likely that all radical, man-hating alleged feminists who truly believe "kill all men" are in favor of gun-control, but not everyone on the left who would ridicule legal gun possession hates men.
If you think Deadpool is the worst film in cinema... oh boy, you have a long way to fall before you hit rock bottom.
I was being a bit overdramatic, I'll give you that, but it just triggers me so incredibly hard; especially seeing echoes of it in other productions.
Yes, this is why I enjoy films like Chappie, Elysium, or Oblivion - I love the world building, even if the rest of it feels a bt thin.
I left the theater thinking The Creator was right in the same caliber of film as Elysium and Oblivion. I'm not a fan of any of the 3, but there's a genre of sci-fi that is like "short story" territory that provides a small vignette of a larger world and doesn't explore much beyond one character's simple journey within it. They make for great special effects showcases, though.
Movies, series and games aswell nowadays are content instead of a dream of an artist. They have quota to fill to keep up with some release schedule, and it gets pushed out the door when it is good enough. This is why there is so much run of the mill stuff to watch.
Content is transactional; stories are relational.
The intention people put into what they make comes through, and although you can have an entire team of extremely talented people put a lot of work into a film that is well-received at the box office, it still comes across as somewhat lacking, empty, or flat because they're not telling you a story, they're ultimately just creating content so you'll give them your money. In years (decades?) past, stories were the point, and we would pay money to see them; now a significant number of films have stories that are a means to an end, and that end is cash. Risky ideas get flattened out in board rooms and focus groups, and trying to apply to the broadest number averages out a work to the point where it's... well, average.
Do we really believe this? Bad movies, tv and games have existed in large numbers since the dawn of each medium, we just forget about them.
It's not even the point of the video, which is about modernisms, not 'modern stuff bad'.
It lists plenty of fantastic movies released in just the last few years, and the intentions (or 'dreams', if you prefer) of the writers/directors.
I definitely feel that with CGI effects that somehow seems to look worse now even though I know the technology has gotten better. But clearly, the studios can get away with a "ah good enough" mentality, and it clearly shows that the good people working on these productions are less and less allowed to put some professional pride into their work. Everything can be "fixed in post", so why bother much with laying the groundwork with a good pre-production.
With the risk of sounding like a film snob, I feel less and less engaged with movies nowadays that are filmed digitally. Not so much because of the look, though that is a factor also, but having all these digital tools often leads to lazy filmmaking. The modern movies I do tend to like, with some notable exceptions of course, are often by auteur directors still insisting on shooting on film.
One of the things that endlessly bothers me is that these sorts of films constantly defy the conservation of matter without any pretense. Movie physics were already questionable for the past few decades, but the Iron Man 2 briefcase and now dissolving masks/helmets are a bridge too far.
We're not being asked to suspend disbelief deliberately, for a TARDIS or something. The status quo is simply that hats disappear into thin air and the Men in Black car can unfold weapons out of impossibly small spaces.
Yeah it's sort of the "quantum" prefix issue. Time travel, infinite energy, mutable mass, all kinds of things can get handwaved with the sci-fi equivalent of "magic" and it's hard to get invested in stakes with such a loose rule system.
Thank you for sharing this. I found his analysis to be kind of fascinating (in addition to being well-produced -- I especially liked the metamodern skit). I've been a fan of "arthouse" and foreign movies most of my life, but haven't spent a lot of time trying to analyze that fandom or the movies that I've seen. Watching this I recognized and found myself agreeing with a lot of the points he was making. I think I have a better understanding of some of my reactions to movies that I've seen, particularly ones that I recognized were "good" but left feeling like I was clearly missing something.
I thought it was also interesting that he interposes clips of films as illustrations of the point he is making, but without introduction - the viewer has to not only know which film it is from, but had to have seen it (and remember it!) to understand why it is relevant. The Bo Burnham: Inside clips were what really popped out and made me recognize that was going on.
I just want to add to anyone else who likes these kinds of videos on film, I can recommend FilmStack on YouTube who also recently did a series analysing the different feel of various decades of film https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR7ptbnVsZbYEgRLzdJLMcFsO6sdsWQa1
I personally disliked this video, as it looks at everything through a single, narrow lens of either modernism, post modernism and meta modernism.... But, I just had my mind blown.....
The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar is a very recent Netflix adaption of a Roald Dahl short story, that completely breaks down the fourth wall.
The original story, is a story within a story within a story.
The Netflix Adaption is a movie, of a play, about a story within a story within a story.
Think Rubber (2010) (one of Tildes weirdest films ever) meets The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)...
If you spent 40 minutes watching this youtube, and have Netflix, it is worth spending 40 minutes watching Henry Sugar.
I just watched Asteroid City. Yet another example of this weird ass meta modernism concept. Now I am looking at everything through the lens of post modernism and meta modernism, and I hate it.