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Thunderbolts | Teaser trailer

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  1. [12]
    cloud_loud
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    This looks much better than I expected, I’m looking forward to it now. Looks closer in style and tone to a Phase One MCU film. The guy who wrote Beef (the Netflix show that swept the Emmy’s...

    This looks much better than I expected, I’m looking forward to it now. Looks closer in style and tone to a Phase One MCU film.

    The guy who wrote Beef (the Netflix show that swept the Emmy’s earlier this year) re-wrote the script for this (I initially thought he was also directing but that’s not the case). The director is the director of Robot and Frank a 2012 indie film that was pretty good.

    So the team behind it is pretty solid, should at least be better than Captain American Brave New World.

    Edit: Turns out the guy who directed Robot and Frank also directed most of the episodes for Beef lol. So that’s why this looks good, they got the Beef guys behind it.

    6 votes
    1. [4]
      TumblingTurquoise
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      Having seen Beef recently, I had high hopes for this movie, after learning about the writer & director. But honestly, based on the trailer, it looks like some standard MCU fare. Not sure if I'm...

      Having seen Beef recently, I had high hopes for this movie, after learning about the writer & director.

      But honestly, based on the trailer, it looks like some standard MCU fare. Not sure if I'm willing to go to the cinema for it.

      5 votes
      1. [3]
        cloud_loud
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        I wouldn’t say it looks standard compared to recent films. I think the cinematography looks much better than recent MCU films (with Guardians 3 being an exception). A lot of interesting lighting...

        I wouldn’t say it looks standard compared to recent films. I think the cinematography looks much better than recent MCU films (with Guardians 3 being an exception). A lot of interesting lighting and use of shadows going on.

        Maybe standard MCU fare during phase one through phase three sure, but we’ve had so many dumpster fires since then that’s better than what we’ve been getting.

        2 votes
        1. [2]
          TumblingTurquoise
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          It looks pretty, sure. But I meant standard, as in I have already seen this story play out several times under the same logo. A band of misfits gathers together under a common goal. They learn to...

          It looks pretty, sure. But I meant standard, as in I have already seen this story play out several times under the same logo. A band of misfits gathers together under a common goal. They learn to tolerate & grow on each other. Cue some zingers, some fight scenes, and some non-relateable villain. Roll credits.

          Whereas I was hoping for something a bit more subversive & creative (such as Beef). But it's only a trailer, so there's a chance I will turn out wrong.

          4 votes
          1. cloud_loud
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            Oh nah I don’t think we should expect teams to take the same creative risks when they move on to big budget studio projects. I think the best we can hope for is that it’s well made, which is...

            Whereas I was hoping for something a bit more subversive & creative (such as Beef)

            Oh nah I don’t think we should expect teams to take the same creative risks when they move on to big budget studio projects. I think the best we can hope for is that it’s well made, which is really all it needs to be. Even someone like David Lynch didn’t go full weird when making his studio projects The Elephant Man and The Straight Story.

            I personally don’t mind stories we’ve seen before, I don’t celebrate something being different just for the sake of it, but I understand I’m more middle brow in my tastes.

            2 votes
    2. [4]
      smiles134
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      Frank, as in the movie about the avant garde pop group featuring Michael Fassbender in a giant paper mache head? He's directing a marvel movie? What the hell? Lol Edit: okay, I looked this up...

      Frank, as in the movie about the avant garde pop group featuring Michael Fassbender in a giant paper mache head?

      He's directing a marvel movie? What the hell? Lol

      Edit: okay, I looked this up because I couldn't believe it. I realize now you're talking about one movie, Robot and Frank, and not two movies each called "Robot" and "Frank".

      I have not seen Robot and Frank but it also looks quite strange and enjoyable.

      3 votes
      1. [3]
        cloud_loud
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        Lol honestly I thought you were just making a joke

        Lol honestly I thought you were just making a joke

        2 votes
        1. [2]
          smiles134
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          If you haven't seen Frank, I recommend it! Very strange, deeply affecting. Michael Fassbender, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Domnhall Gleason in probably the weirdest movie of their careers Edit: I take...

          If you haven't seen Frank, I recommend it! Very strange, deeply affecting. Michael Fassbender, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Domnhall Gleason in probably the weirdest movie of their careers

          Edit: I take that back for Maggie -- she's done some really weird movies haha

          4 votes
          1. cloud_loud
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            I saw Frank back when it came out, I don’t remember loving it as much as others did at the time. That was really hyped online back then.

            I saw Frank back when it came out, I don’t remember loving it as much as others did at the time. That was really hyped online back then.

    3. [3]
      canekicker
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      So I'm of the mindset that Disney will likely obliterate any creative talent in order to maintain their various cinematic universes and there are so many examples of this. Chloe Zhao was fantastic...

      So I'm of the mindset that Disney will likely obliterate any creative talent in order to maintain their various cinematic universes and there are so many examples of this. Chloe Zhao was fantastic in 'Nomadland' and 'the Rider' but 'the Eternals' was a shit show. Nia DaCosta was promising with 'Candyman' and 'The Marvels' was just so disjointed. Rian Johnson has a proven track record with 'Breaking Bad','Looper', the various 'Knives Out' films, and now 'Poker Face' and the 'Last Jedi' was just so devoid to anything remotely interesting and is widely panned.

      There are obviously exceptions to this rule but whenever I see writers/directors I enjoy attached to any MCU/Star Wars project, I immediately wonder how they'll be stifled by ad execs and corporate interests.

      edit : leaving it up for posterity sake but I'm wrong about the lack of creative freedom.

      2 votes
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        cloud_loud
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        Out of your examples, only DaCosta was the one that had significant studio interference. Zhao was given a lot of creative freedom, even if it’s an MCU film you can still tell it’s her film. Her...

        Out of your examples, only DaCosta was the one that had significant studio interference.

        Zhao was given a lot of creative freedom, even if it’s an MCU film you can still tell it’s her film. Her aesthetic is very much present, and she even has two writing credits. Eternals being bad had nothing to do with Disney, in fact Disney was wildly confident in the film and even positioned for it to be campaigned for awards.

        The Last Jedi, again, Johnson was given full reign. That it was divisive (among audiences as it received critical acclaim) has nothing to do with Disney. Poker Face is a Peacock show (aka NBCUniversal) and has nothing to do with Disney. Knives Out was also released after The Last Jedi.

        You could have come up with better examples. Maybe bringing up Edgar Wright’s departure from Ant-Man, Joss Whedon describing the making of Age of Ultron as soul crushing ditto with Jon Favreau on Iron Man 2. But these were really bad examples lol.

        3 votes
        1. canekicker
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          Huh, I was wrong and I thought the opposite was true concerning Zhao and Johnson but I guess not. Right. I brought them up to demonstrate that Johnson has chops and showed it both before and after...

          Huh, I was wrong and I thought the opposite was true concerning Zhao and Johnson but I guess not.

          Poker Face is a Peacock show (aka NBCUniversal) and has nothing to do with Disney. Knives Out was also released after The Last Jedi."

          Right. I brought them up to demonstrate that Johnson has chops and showed it both before and after TLJ. But you're right, I forget how well TJL was received critically. That whole trilogy is so forgettable in my head and I have stronger memories of fans panning it that I forget TJL did quite well and it was TRS that did was poorly received critically.

          I guess despite the fact that I'm the target audience for these films, my MCU/Star Wars fatigue and overall disinterest means I incorrectly flatten them into a single middling experience.

          1 vote
  2. tomorrow-never-knows
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    I wouldn't be familiar with the source comic for this, however, the overwhelming impression I get is of it being Marvel's go at the whole 'Suicide Squad' idea, but minus the crap-tonne of fun...

    I wouldn't be familiar with the source comic for this, however, the overwhelming impression I get is of it being Marvel's go at the whole 'Suicide Squad' idea, but minus the crap-tonne of fun James Gunn injected into the second film (and Peacemaker). I'll be honest, it will take some pretty stellar reviews to entice me into seeing it. That, or an extreme divide of opinion amongst critics, usually indicating some interesting creative risks were taken.

    1 vote
  3. rubix
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    I'm not sure why a nearly three and a half minute trailer is classified as a teaser

    I'm not sure why a nearly three and a half minute trailer is classified as a teaser

    1 vote