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  1. Comment on The Stephen Colbert exit interview: “I did not expect it to end this way” in ~tv

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    I mean, that sounds like a pretty reasonable moderate position, he even makes a point about political relativism there in that he doesn't agree with the "Right" because in reality what the term...

    I mean, that sounds like a pretty reasonable moderate position, he even makes a point about political relativism there in that he doesn't agree with the "Right" because in reality what the term now embodies has swung so far along the spectrum it's become an extremist position which he doesn't support. As for the 'no booing' thing, he basically explains his reasoning there with the Obama quote - why boo when there is a more effective alternative that works to disempower your opponent?

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  2. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    I was searching for broad phrasing there but, yeah, 'failings' wasn't the most apt word for what I was trying to convey, rest assured no trivialisation intended! And thanks for the background...

    I was searching for broad phrasing there but, yeah, 'failings' wasn't the most apt word for what I was trying to convey, rest assured no trivialisation intended! And thanks for the background information, I wasn't sure how active usage of the term was in America in those intervening years.

    The political climate here is quite different and I have had no experience of anything of the severity of what has happened with the targeting of CRT, DEI, etc., but I do appreciate where you're coming from and your frustrations with this line of discussion are very understandable.

    I just don't get the idea that we can appease them with the blood of trans people and immigrants.

    May be a digression but this did stand out to me. Are you referring to the Democrat party specifically here, have they taken to selling out trans and immigrant people to try grab more votes?

    No one operationalizes their terms anymore and it really breaks down the conversation

    Yup, preaching to the choir there.

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  3. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    I think you've manage to pinpoint exactly where this conversation has gone out of phase, cheers! Yes, I did previously note that I share the sentiment that 'woke' as a movement hasn't gone far...

    I think you've manage to pinpoint exactly where this conversation has gone out of phase, cheers! Yes, I did previously note that I share the sentiment that 'woke' as a movement hasn't gone far enough, so I thought that had made it clear that my thoughts are following the actions and attitudes of individuals working in the name of 'woke.' You've also highlighted one of the key issues with the article, and also a real bugbear of the comments here, in that the term 'woke' hasn't been fully defined. It goes back to my earlier comment about my issues with woke not being rigorous enough to stand as a formal movement, and I would consider this a direct consequence of (as I understand it) the loose spirit in which the term was coined, that is, in encouraging a general state of awareness towards the failings of social and institutional norms. That it has now, as a movement, come to encompass a largely ill-defined array of leftist ideologies is working to its detriment, and has made it easier for bad actors to toxify the term. Also worth bearing in mind, outside the US, woke as a term has only really caught on within the last ~10 years, so for many it is quite divorced from its long pre-BLM cultural origins, and arrived with many of its modern political attachments, often inferred from online discourse, and so was frequently received as being reminiscent, however incorrectly, of the political correctness of the '90s / '00s many were already familiar with.

    Key to my own opinions here is that I don't see 'going too far' as a relative judgement, where extremist behaviour on one side winds up setting the bar at murder. For me, 'too far' can just mean being an insufferable dick to others, or else, more benignly, having fallen into absurdity. Yes, you can travel very, very far beyond that line, and, for sure, there's a lot more runway on one particular side of it, but that's where it sits for me. To say something has 'gone too far' isn't a scathing indictment of a whole concept or movement, it can just be pointing out where some of the edges have gotten too sharp or squirrelly.

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  4. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    I genuinely thought I was engaging, and tried using two different readings of your question in the hopes of providing a satisfactory answer. Regarding the issue that was put forth relating to...

    I genuinely thought I was engaging, and tried using two different readings of your question in the hopes of providing a satisfactory answer. Regarding the issue that was put forth relating to language policing, my point was that it has gone too far at times, not that it is wrong in and of itself, while you have said you don't agree and, as I read it, you believe that it can't so long as there are assholes out there still using slurs (please correct if I have stepped too far in my interpretation there). I think at this point we are starting to get stuck in the weeds a little so before going any further I would just like to confirm where we stand on one point: do you believe it is at all possible that those on the left could go too far in their methods, even though their intentions may still be sound?

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  5. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    Ah, I think I see where we are misaligned here. Is it right to say that in your question you mean to take the effect of 'woke' as an entire movement? The article title may imply as much, in...

    Ah, I think I see where we are misaligned here. Is it right to say that in your question you mean to take the effect of 'woke' as an entire movement? The article title may imply as much, in fairness, but, again, things get more granular in the content, which is what I'm responding to. Overall, no, I don't think it has left us worse off, quite the opposite. And I agree with you, there was a window within the cultural moment to make some really great advancements. Back to my earlier comment, I don't think 'woke,' as it developed, was strong enough to push things as far as they should have gone and we ended up with, in effect, some patchwork fixes rather than the deeper changes necessitated. I'm not saying the idea behind woke has left us worse off, only that the implementation has been flawed.

    So, in answering your question, I was speaking to the parts that have gone wrong, not the totality. I am coming from this whole topic from a position of: "okay, we missed some opportunites and right now things are getting worse, so, instead of always focusing on the other side let's take a moment here to look at where we might have gone wrong and ask how can we better hone our approach." This is what I've been trying to get at, and was hoping to see local Tilderinos providing better answers for than we got in the NYT piece.

    Also, just to clarify, I'm in Europe and have only been to the U.S. once briefly, so I can't speak to the specifics there and am likely missing oceans of implied context here. There is a caveat in that when I am discussing terms and concepts of American origin, i.e., woke, it is going to be heavily coloured by how these ideas have landed within my own culture. But in saying 'us,' as I have above, please understand that I am searching for commonality in what I take to be shared ideals of egalitarianism and acceptance.

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  6. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    When well-meaning folks get crucified for making honest mistakes in their language, or for simply not keeping lock-step pace with cultural developments. I'm referring to an overzealous militant...

    When well-meaning folks get crucified for making honest mistakes in their language, or for simply not keeping lock-step pace with cultural developments. I'm referring to an overzealous militant wing here, and a rare exception I think, who aren't really helping the cause with their hostility. When does that ever change a persons mind? Compassion is the only way forward for real, long-term change.

    On a larger level, I think woke encompasses a nice sentiment that works on more casual grounds, a simple way of signalling ones general social views, but lacks enough rigour or cohesiveness to hold up as any sort of robust philosophical movement. I feel the end result has been turned into a sort of 'political correctness 2.0.' If we want to discuss issues of discrimination and inequality then I think perhaps the likes of intersectionality would make for far more useful tools for examining the depth of issues we face in our societies today.

    I would like to politely reiterate my earlier question though as I was genuinely curious in my asking: what was it in my initial comment that made you think I had an issue with any person choosing the pronouns that make them most comfortable? I see from your other comments that you don't want to engage with the article, and if it was just based off an assumption you made on that, then fair enough. But if there was something in what I said, then, yeah, that's someting I would like to know so as to avoid causing offense in the future.

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  7. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    None whatsoever, that's just basic courtesy. Forgive me, but what had you thinking I was implying otherwise? To clarify, the linked discussion touches on several more points than pronouns....

    None whatsoever, that's just basic courtesy. Forgive me, but what had you thinking I was implying otherwise? To clarify, the linked discussion touches on several more points than pronouns. Personally, I disagreed with their particular stances more so than not, but I think the broader idea behind the conversation merits some discussion, and that there's a few nuggets in there that the community here could handle with a bit more nuance than they did.

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  8. Comment on Did wokeness leave us worse off? (gifted link) in ~society

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    Por qué no los dos? Ok, agreed, fascists cause orders of magnitude more damage, and continue to do so. That's well established. But is not the topic being discussed here that there's also been...

    Por qué no los dos?

    Ok, agreed, fascists cause orders of magnitude more damage, and continue to do so. That's well established. But is not the topic being discussed here that there's also been some overswing towards the left that's caused issues too? Just because there's proper evil bastards on the one side doesn't mean there can't be a few dumbasses causing a ruckus on the other too. Again, different scales of damage, but still worth a think.

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  9. Comment on Do you prefer chunky or smooth peanut butter? in ~food

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    Chunky, absolutely no question. But I have nothing against smooth either, just a preference. The most important thing is that it be 100% peanuts, absolutely no palm oil or other crap added.

    Chunky, absolutely no question. But I have nothing against smooth either, just a preference. The most important thing is that it be 100% peanuts, absolutely no palm oil or other crap added.

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  10. Comment on What's your dream job? in ~life

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    Can't say I have ever been obsessed with any particular profession. Even when I went through a phase of watching the movie Backdraft every day as a kid I didn't get super inspired to become a...

    Can't say I have ever been obsessed with any particular profession. Even when I went through a phase of watching the movie Backdraft every day as a kid I didn't get super inspired to become a firefighter or anything. Every job has its pros and cons, and even the act of transforming a hobby into one's livelihood can often result in a dulling of the original passion.

    Having said all that, astronaut.

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  11. Comment on It's Bandcamp Friday, what Indie albums are you picking up‽ in ~music

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    'twas a solid haul for myself this past Freyja's day: Dark Komet - Ghost of Silver Light EP Industrial Doom from Finland (shout out to @mycketforvirrad for the rec!). At times, reminds of fellow...

    'twas a solid haul for myself this past Freyja's day:
    Dark Komet - Ghost of Silver Light EP

    • Industrial Doom from Finland (shout out to @mycketforvirrad for the rec!). At times, reminds of fellow Finns Oranssi Pazuzu or a murkier Samael.

    Vreid - The Skies Turn Black

    • The latest from these Norwegian veterans has been getting a lot of spins from me since release, one of their best in years.

    Mammon's Throne - My Body to the Worms

    • Stomping slab of sludge-filled blackened doom from Oz.
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  12. Comment on Dark Komet – Temples In The Flesh Of Time (2026) in ~music

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    I've been really digging this, will be grabbing the EP during Bandcamp Friday tomorrow for sure. Thanks for sharing!

    I've been really digging this, will be grabbing the EP during Bandcamp Friday tomorrow for sure. Thanks for sharing!

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  13. Comment on What have you been listening to this week? in ~music

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    I've been reading Uwe Schutte's Kraftwerk: Future Music from Germany, so to go along with that I've basically just been immersed in Kraftwerk's discography. Also of note, I got to catch Hypocrisy...

    I've been reading Uwe Schutte's Kraftwerk: Future Music from Germany, so to go along with that I've basically just been immersed in Kraftwerk's discography.

    Also of note, I got to catch Hypocrisy on their Euro tour this week so also a healthy dose of their classics mixed in. Hugely influential band for me, great to finally catch them live and their set ran right through their catalogue so I was a very happy lad indeed.

  14. Comment on Terminator: The story of the 6502 code you see onscreen in ~movies

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    That was equal parts fascinating and nerdy as hell! I'll be checking out some more videos from that channel for sure.

    That was equal parts fascinating and nerdy as hell! I'll be checking out some more videos from that channel for sure.

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  15. Comment on What have you been listening to this week? in ~music

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    For the past week I've been addicted to Gigantic Brain's self-titled album from 2016. Their Invasion Discography compilation is a classic of the cybergrind style, and while a lot of that remains,...

    For the past week I've been addicted to Gigantic Brain's self-titled album from 2016. Their Invasion Discography compilation is a classic of the cybergrind style, and while a lot of that remains, there's a bunch of extra influences and textures on this, plus the addition of clean vocals even. Not sure I can put it much better than the BC blurb:

    This bizarre, deranged and extremely heavy album features borderline psychedelic songs about cats, unicorns, sheep, babies, suntanning, boats, panties and much much more.

  16. Comment on Which covers did it better than (or put a fresh twist on) the original? in ~music

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    I'm sure to have a few more to add later on, but for now I want to throw in a few from my personal kings of cover tunes: Type O Negative - 'Summer Breeze' (Seals & Crofts cover) Type O have some...

    I'm sure to have a few more to add later on, but for now I want to throw in a few from my personal kings of cover tunes:
    Type O Negative - 'Summer Breeze' (Seals & Crofts cover)

    • Type O have some excellent covers throughout their catalogue, and this is easily my favourite. You wouldn't expect the band who released an album called 'The Origin of the Feces' to cover Seals & Crofts, and yet in retrospect it seems a no-brainer. What's also remarkable is the wonderful transition into the next track on the album, 'Set Me on Fire'; the two songs gel beautifully and reinforce how well Type O integrated the song into their ironically morose brand of doom metal. I've linked above a version with the two together, as they should be.

    Type O Negative - 'Angry Inch' (from the film 'Hedwig & the Angry Inch')

    • I wouldn't have known about the film without this track, so this was a nice two-fer when it came out (maybe three-fer counting the musical, though I haven't seen that rendition). Fits their humour just as well as their musical style.

    Type O Negative - 'Day Tripper Medley' (The Beatles cover)

    • Type O weren't called the 'Drab Four' for nothing. The 'She's So Heavy' section fits them like a glove.
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  17. Comment on What are you reading these days? in ~books

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    Well worth pointing out. The violence can hit somewhere around Invincible levels of gratuity, or even Mortal Kombat OTT silliness. Personally, I'd consider those all qualities sitting firmly in...

    Well worth pointing out. The violence can hit somewhere around Invincible levels of gratuity, or even Mortal Kombat OTT silliness. Personally, I'd consider those all qualities sitting firmly in the series' 'strengths' category, but expectations should be calibrated accordingly before hopping in. The tone can kinda go the way our D&D table does once the party are a few beers in ha.

    It actually works in favour of the more poignant moments, I think. With a wider sort of 'emotional dynamic range' it really lends extra weight to when Dinniman wants to target the feels.

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  18. Comment on What are you reading these days? in ~books

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    I tore through them last year, great series! The way the story develops and escalates is fantastic, proper space opera epicness with a nice balance of the grim without going too far into grimdark...

    I tore through them last year, great series! The way the story develops and escalates is fantastic, proper space opera epicness with a nice balance of the grim without going too far into grimdark territory. Thought we'd have the final book this summer though, looking like it'll be next year now.

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  19. Comment on What are you reading these days? in ~books

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    I'm currently in the last part of James S.A. Corey's The Faith of Beasts and, so far, it's a solidly enjoyable follow-up to The Mercy of Gods with plenty of great moments and ideas. In the week...

    I'm currently in the last part of James S.A. Corey's The Faith of Beasts and, so far, it's a solidly enjoyable follow-up to The Mercy of Gods with plenty of great moments and ideas.

    In the week prior, I wolfed down the first two Dungeon Crawler Carl books. Gotta hand it to Dinniman, they're a hell of a lot better written than the blurb might imply, and addictive as fuck. Very funny throughout too, particularly for one reared on CRPGs and with a few years of TTRPG experience under their belt.

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