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'Avengers: Doomsday' cast released
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- Title
- Marvel Confirming 'Avengers: Doomsday' Cast: Chris Hemsworth, Paul Rudd, Letitia Wright, Sebastian Stan, Vanessa Kirby & More....
- Authors
- Anthony D'Alessandro
- Published
- Mar 26 2025
- Word count
- 161 words
IMDB page is a lot easier to comprehend:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21357150/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cst_sm
Original livestream:
https://youtu.be/Iy7k3aJS0Fw
Speculation
Operating off the assumption that this is everyone, there are a couple of obvious absences, and it looks like it's borrowing more from Hickman's Avengers run into Time Runs Out and 2014 Secret Wars rather than the original with the Beyonder, considering there are no new names to us and some of these guys have ties to the multiverse already.
On the hype cycle
That being said, there's only so much you can put hype on a film before people are going to be disappointed. Infinity War was only what it was because we had come off of a lot of entertaining films one after another. Civil War, into Guardians 2, into Doctor Strange, into the new Spider-Man, into Thor: Ragnarok, into Black Panther into Infinity War. We haven't had that sort of long tail for this movie, and building up hype out of universe is going to build expectations for your die-hards more than you can deliver, and not really convince the general audience that you know what you're doing in the same way a history of good films would.
The livestream is the pinnacle of "this could have been an email". FIVE AND A HALF HOURS to show 27 names.
I've seen the Russos interviewed at the Smithsonian twice: once for Civil War and once for Avengers. They said, during the latter, all those years ago, that they were done with super hero films for a while but maybe could be tempted back if they got to do Secret Wars. So this has been on their minds for years. And I get it.
The Russos are Gen X, like me. They grew up with the original SW 12-part limited series, as I did. Back then, it was awesome. But now....?
I'm willing to bet that they took a fresh look at the original, then read Hickman's, and then said, "Yeah, that Beyonder series was a bit goofy and wouldn't translate well but, that build up to the Hickman Secret Wars, well that was amazing." FWIW, that's how I felt about Hickman: his run on Avengers was just top shelf.
As a tangent, I'm not sold on MCU Namor. I just don't feel the gravitas that I would expect from him. The man is one of the haughtiest characters in the MCU, right up there with Doctor Doom himself. I don't get that sense of heft with MCU Namor yet.
Honestly, the SW that followed, Hickman's, I could mostly do without. For me, it didn't live up to the build up with the enormous stakes around the "incursions"; to Marty McFly my reading experience: incursions were heavy. SW got way too multiverse-y for me. But God Emperor Doom? Well, I never could get enough Doctor Doom, really. Such a complicated character!
Channing Tatum returning as Gambit? You sunuvabitch, I'm in.
Without spoiling the movie plots themselves, which movies should a noob watch in order to reasonably expect to understand this one's plot? Would I be good just going through all the ones titled: "Avengers: [subtitle]"?
We don't know enough right now to say one way or another, but a lot of the people involved have ties to things to the newer ones and movies yet to come, and not as much to the original run of movies from Iron Man to Endgame. With the exception of some pre MCU movies that can be referenced now that rights are sorted out.
When this kind of stuff happens in the comic books, you can pick a character you like, and follow them around. The Avengers movies typically introduce their cast well enough that you don't have to follow all of them and watch all their films. So maybe start with the Avengers films, see if there's anyone you like and kinda wander around stuff with them in it?
It ain't out yet, but if you're gonna watch one movie before this one, it should probably be Fantastic Four.
I’ve given up hope that Doomsday and Secret Wars will meet my high bar set by Hickman’s comic run, but I’m just hoping maybe they’ll be a good time at least? Everyone rags on there being too many super hero movies, but honestly as someone immune to that criticism who watches pretty much all of them… they’ve just been kind of bad for pretty obvious technical reasons? Scripts that would be unacceptable for a college film student to write, committee driven post-production that butchers already weak films, and just sloppy CGI. I also understand people’s gripe with the multiverse but I also don’t think that’s the issue. Quantumania wasn’t bad because of Kang, it was just bad for all the reasons I listed (and many more).
Anyways all that ranting to say I just want someone to grab Marvel by the collar and shake them until they figure it out. Doom and Secret Wars are so precious to me that I’m truly worried about them embarking on such a bold, star studded set of movies when they haven’t appear to have solved any of their glaring production problems.
I know it really has nothing to do with the film’s quality, but for some reason this gimmicky and stupid way of announcing the cast has cause my Marvel fears to be reawakened.
I'm very confused by the names that aren't there—particularly the more recently introduced characters.
CASTING SPOILER
No Champions/New Avengers. What???
I'm of the opinion that not everyone in the movie is getting top billing.
Spoilers for the Marvels, Multiverse of Madness and further conjecture
You would figure that Teyonah Parris would get a seat, considering that Monica Rambeau was stranded in the X-Men universe and is probably the inciting incident on whatever multiverse clown fiesta is happening. Presumably America Chavez or at least someone on Team Wizard would be involved considering the multiverse is their deal. That and no Spider-Man appearance is suspect, I'd guess that they want to save their powder, but if Doc Doom is looking a lot like Tony Stark these days, you'd want to introduce that conflict as soon as possible, considering they have a history and Pete would be kinda suspect of yet another empowered paternal figure that can solve all his problems.
Noise: That probably reads as incomprehensible to anyone out of the loop.
Oh. Though I just realized...
Spoiler
More Illuminatus
Also, no Dr Strange or Scarlet Witch. Calling BS on these now.
The Russo bros have said these movies are the beginning of the new mcu. Here’s hoping they can get back on track. I will say the new daredevil show has been absolutely crushing it. I’m not saying it’s perfect but they did continue the Netflix vibe and have added to it. I still believe Kevin Feige can make things work out and bring us new and interesting stories.
Didn't hear this before. I find it interesting that both DC and Marvel seem to be trying to reboot their entire franchises. The problem is the quality of the movies and that they are all tangled way too much together, so maybe it will work but I really question that it will - I don't quite subscribe to the idea of superhero 'fatigue', but yeah, interesting that Marvel is doing it too