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The end of erotica? How Hollywood fell out of love with sex

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    Somebody
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    Hollywood didn't fall out of love with sex. They got out-competed by porn. Why is anyone going to get all atwitter over a second of Hollywood side-boob when you can find millions of hussies...

    Hollywood didn't fall out of love with sex. They got out-competed by porn.

    Why is anyone going to get all atwitter over a second of Hollywood side-boob when you can find millions of hussies getting it hardcore at Pornhub? And why would anyone pay for a second of Hollywood side-boob?

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      I think it's also because a lot of Hollywood movies that were based on raunchy novels turned out to be shit. Take for instance... the Fifty Shades trilogy. The first movie (Fifty Shades of Grey)...

      I think it's also because a lot of Hollywood movies that were based on raunchy novels turned out to be shit.

      Take for instance... the Fifty Shades trilogy. The first movie (Fifty Shades of Grey) earned a very low 25% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 4.1/10 on IMDB and 46% on Metacritic. The sequels (Fifty Shades Darker and Fifty Shades Freed) were panned even worse by critics. The only reason anybody showed interest in Fifty Shades was because it was a kinky erotic novel, albeit a poorly written one by an untalented author who hastily reworked her erotic Twilight fanfic to include original characters instead.

      The sex scenes in Fifty Shades were about as tame as the MPAA would allow without slapping the movie with the highest possible NC-17 age rating.

      Which begs the question... why would you watch Fifty Shades when there is actual porn freely available on the internet.

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        Wasn’t the 50 Shades book shit already?

        Wasn’t the 50 Shades book shit already?

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              1. Akir
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                You're totally right. Most porn is just people doing sexual acts. But in reality, sex isn't just sex. Sex is communicative. Sex gives meaning and also is meaningful in and of itself.

                You're totally right. Most porn is just people doing sexual acts. But in reality, sex isn't just sex. Sex is communicative. Sex gives meaning and also is meaningful in and of itself.

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                JohnLeFou
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                It may sound weird but the romantic quirky sex in Deadpool was really endearing to me. They obviously did wild things and it was great, but they never took it so seriously it eclipsed their...

                It may sound weird but the romantic quirky sex in Deadpool was really endearing to me. They obviously did wild things and it was great, but they never took it so seriously it eclipsed their relationship and chemistry.

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                1. Somebody
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                  Like International Women's Day?

                  they never took it so seriously it eclipsed their relationship and chemistry.

                  Like International Women's Day?

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              3. Gaywallet
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                I feel like Netflix is really trying to explore this. Recent series that come to mind are bonding, special, and easy. While not all of these are specifically focused on sex itself (bonding more-so...

                I feel like Netflix is really trying to explore this. Recent series that come to mind are bonding, special, and easy. While not all of these are specifically focused on sex itself (bonding more-so than the latter two and easy exploring a lot more than just romance and sex) and all happen to be comedies, I feel like they're dipping their foot in the water of trying to explore modern sex culture in a "TV friendly" way.

                I'm not really all that big into porn, but it would not surprise me with modern levels of proliferation if there aren't websites out there focused on more "authentic" porn and porn which better explores what you're pointing out here.

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            2. Somebody
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              That's a dangerous question.

              That's a dangerous question.

    2. NaraVara
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      Most porn isn't actually that erotic though. There isn't anything like engagement with characters as anything more than stock caricatures and no attention to how flirting, attraction, or seduction...

      Hollywood didn't fall out of love with sex. They got out-competed by porn.

      Most porn isn't actually that erotic though. There isn't anything like engagement with characters as anything more than stock caricatures and no attention to how flirting, attraction, or seduction works. It's entirely T&A and penetration, but it's not really "sexy."

      In contrast, I know lots of people who specifically watch Outlander because of how sexy it is and there have been a plethora of articles about a specific scene in the latest season of Fleabag that seems to have a ton of viewers very hot and bothered. As near as I can figure it doesn't even involve anyone having sex.

      Edit: To put it more succinctly. Erotica is supposed to make you want to go and bang someone. Porn is mostly just there to give you something to touch yourself to. One is trying to develop or kindle the desire, the other is trying to slake it.

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