Metallica's St. Anger album gets a much worse rap than I think it deserves. This playlist is a reimagining of the St. Anger album; same vocals but everything else is re-recorded. I personally like...
Metallica's St. Anger album gets a much worse rap than I think it deserves. This playlist is a reimagining of the St. Anger album; same vocals but everything else is re-recorded. I personally like a lot of the songs from the original album already, but this elevates a bunch of them to be the 'bangers' that they always were.
Thoughts? It's the perfect timing for me since I just listened to the whole original album earlier this week.
Never understood the hate for this album. I always felt like this album would be hugely popular and beloved if it had come from a band nobody had ever heard of before. People hate the vocals and...
Never understood the hate for this album. I always felt like this album would be hugely popular and beloved if it had come from a band nobody had ever heard of before.
People hate the vocals and the snare drum in particular - I love them so much. It makes this album feel thrashy and raw, like a garage band that was exceedingly good. It sounds so angry, which is obviously what they were going for given the album title and its content.
Anyway, I'm definitely interested the various re-records and re-edits of this album, even if I enjoy the original.
My impression has always been that it was because St. Anger wasn't a return to the pre 90's Metallica. It was a return to their thrash roots, but didn't sound like MoP or RtL. I feel like I see...
Never understood the hate for this album.
My impression has always been that it was because St. Anger wasn't a return to the pre 90's Metallica. It was a return to their thrash roots, but didn't sound like MoP or RtL. I feel like I see some DNA from AJfA in St Anger, though maybe that's just me.
In regards to the vocals and the snare, if you take them in a vacuum.... Yea they're not, like, great. I'd argue though, that when considered alongside the 'concept' of the album they fit very well thematically. As a whole it feels like a very cohesive idea to me, and I enjoy that. (I know you've already said something along these lines as well, I just like agreeing by rehashing :) )
Yeah I totally agree with you. I feel like so many great albums by many great artists have components that aren't great in a vacuum. They're unique though and it's part of what makes them great....
Yeah I totally agree with you. I feel like so many great albums by many great artists have components that aren't great in a vacuum. They're unique though and it's part of what makes them great.
Imagine Bob Dylan without his strange singing or Eminem without his nasally voice.
Loooooong time Metallica fan and St Anger was a great return to thrash and a very solid album. (I happen to love Load and some of ReLoad so I got a win-win through the mid 90s and early 00s lol)...
Loooooong time Metallica fan and St Anger was a great return to thrash and a very solid album. (I happen to love Load and some of ReLoad so I got a win-win through the mid 90s and early 00s lol)
The snare was definitely a choice, but Lars seemed bored with things and James seemed like he was using the album for therapy.
All in, I truthfully like St Anger more than some of their later albums. Hardwired and 72 Seasons prove that they need someone in the room willing to tell them no, offer criticism when needed, and above all, be someone they'll listen to. The number of hi hat solos on 72 Seasons is... unfortunate. They definitely seem like they've been going through the motions for the last 15 years and the music has no real passion in it, anymore. I don't know if that's the recording process or the truth but it comes through to me.
Also, as a drummer who grew up worshipping Lars, his lack of practice and constant improv when playing live drives me insane. Especially when they're asking $1000+ for some tickets. Fucks sake, at least be able to keep up with the album at album speed if you can't do it at 1.25x like the old days lol
I'm absolutely happy that they're in a good place mentally and physically, but man do I miss the angry, sarcastic MetallicA that didn't sell fucking monopoly sets and star in video games.
As someone who never listened to the original full album, but who occasionally listens to a few minutes of the title track for a laugh or two... I was tolerating the vocals until St Anger, eugh....
As someone who never listened to the original full album, but who occasionally listens to a few minutes of the title track for a laugh or two... I was tolerating the vocals until St Anger, eugh. "yuh fuorce it uUAOught!" We can tell, James. I thought this came out in the 90's and was about to say at least they were progressively looking towards crappy 00's rap rock/nu-metal cut enunciation singing garbage. But no, it's just crappy 00's rap rock/nu-metal cut enunciation singing garbage. Can't fix that.
Anyway - I DO find the rerecording here and the music itself great. Feel like they could've also taken a crack at the vocals and done better. (Reminds me of the attempts to fix the bass on ...And Justice for All, something always retains that weird tinny feel like it's coming out of a K-Mart speaker.)
This reminds me of the St. Anger 2015 Project where a band did a cover re-recording in 2015 of the album, and sounds quite convincingly like Metallica (it's obvious it's not, but it's a very good...
This reminds me of the St. Anger 2015 Project where a band did a cover re-recording in 2015 of the album, and sounds quite convincingly like Metallica (it's obvious it's not, but it's a very good simulacrum)
As far as the album itself, I'm of two minds about the original. It captures Metallica almost as a garage-y nu-metal act, which to me is a lesser version of themselves (and I say that as someone that likes plenty of nu-metal). It's just not them at their full potential. But I also think there's some fun ideas and enjoyable songs on the album. The lack of solos, the sometimes weird lyrical and vocal choices, the more simplistic compositions- the album definitely rightfully gets criticism.
It also captures the band at a time they were going through lineup changes, substance abuse rehabilitation, and general tension and so on. You can hear the struggle of that in the music- and it maybe explains why the album feels genuine, but lacking. But there's charm to it being such a musically obvious reflection of the band's state at the time
Lastly, one interesting aspect of the album is that they finally kept their songs to a more reasonable length. Their other albums could use that level of editing too, tbh. Long songs aren't always a problem, but Metallica wastes time in a lot of their songs. There's no need for three intros to every song, and that's one thing St. Anger got right, funny enough
No matter how the album is redone if the lyrics and vocal delivery remain the same I'll never be able to enjoy anything from this album. Those elements are just so bad it kills all enjoyment for...
No matter how the album is redone if the lyrics and vocal delivery remain the same I'll never be able to enjoy anything from this album. Those elements are just so bad it kills all enjoyment for me.
I'm also a fan who doesn't care for Death Magnetic or the majority of Hardwired. It feels like a terrible three album run to me and their lowest period. They reoriented and nailed it on the newest however. And I love absolutely everything pre Anger. All of it.
Metallica's St. Anger album gets a much worse rap than I think it deserves. This playlist is a reimagining of the St. Anger album; same vocals but everything else is re-recorded. I personally like a lot of the songs from the original album already, but this elevates a bunch of them to be the 'bangers' that they always were.
Thoughts? It's the perfect timing for me since I just listened to the whole original album earlier this week.
Never understood the hate for this album. I always felt like this album would be hugely popular and beloved if it had come from a band nobody had ever heard of before.
People hate the vocals and the snare drum in particular - I love them so much. It makes this album feel thrashy and raw, like a garage band that was exceedingly good. It sounds so angry, which is obviously what they were going for given the album title and its content.
Anyway, I'm definitely interested the various re-records and re-edits of this album, even if I enjoy the original.
My impression has always been that it was because St. Anger wasn't a return to the pre 90's Metallica. It was a return to their thrash roots, but didn't sound like MoP or RtL. I feel like I see some DNA from AJfA in St Anger, though maybe that's just me.
In regards to the vocals and the snare, if you take them in a vacuum.... Yea they're not, like, great. I'd argue though, that when considered alongside the 'concept' of the album they fit very well thematically. As a whole it feels like a very cohesive idea to me, and I enjoy that. (I know you've already said something along these lines as well, I just like agreeing by rehashing :) )
Yeah I totally agree with you. I feel like so many great albums by many great artists have components that aren't great in a vacuum. They're unique though and it's part of what makes them great.
Imagine Bob Dylan without his strange singing or Eminem without his nasally voice.
Loooooong time Metallica fan and St Anger was a great return to thrash and a very solid album. (I happen to love Load and some of ReLoad so I got a win-win through the mid 90s and early 00s lol)
The snare was definitely a choice, but Lars seemed bored with things and James seemed like he was using the album for therapy.
All in, I truthfully like St Anger more than some of their later albums. Hardwired and 72 Seasons prove that they need someone in the room willing to tell them no, offer criticism when needed, and above all, be someone they'll listen to. The number of hi hat solos on 72 Seasons is... unfortunate. They definitely seem like they've been going through the motions for the last 15 years and the music has no real passion in it, anymore. I don't know if that's the recording process or the truth but it comes through to me.
Also, as a drummer who grew up worshipping Lars, his lack of practice and constant improv when playing live drives me insane. Especially when they're asking $1000+ for some tickets. Fucks sake, at least be able to keep up with the album at album speed if you can't do it at 1.25x like the old days lol
I'm absolutely happy that they're in a good place mentally and physically, but man do I miss the angry, sarcastic MetallicA that didn't sell fucking monopoly sets and star in video games.
/Old man rant
As someone who never listened to the original full album, but who occasionally listens to a few minutes of the title track for a laugh or two... I was tolerating the vocals until St Anger, eugh. "yuh fuorce it uUAOught!" We can tell, James. I thought this came out in the 90's and was about to say at least they were progressively looking towards crappy 00's rap rock/nu-metal cut enunciation singing garbage. But no, it's just crappy 00's rap rock/nu-metal cut enunciation singing garbage. Can't fix that.
Anyway - I DO find the rerecording here and the music itself great. Feel like they could've also taken a crack at the vocals and done better. (Reminds me of the attempts to fix the bass on ...And Justice for All, something always retains that weird tinny feel like it's coming out of a K-Mart speaker.)
This reminds me of the St. Anger 2015 Project where a band did a cover re-recording in 2015 of the album, and sounds quite convincingly like Metallica (it's obvious it's not, but it's a very good simulacrum)
As far as the album itself, I'm of two minds about the original. It captures Metallica almost as a garage-y nu-metal act, which to me is a lesser version of themselves (and I say that as someone that likes plenty of nu-metal). It's just not them at their full potential. But I also think there's some fun ideas and enjoyable songs on the album. The lack of solos, the sometimes weird lyrical and vocal choices, the more simplistic compositions- the album definitely rightfully gets criticism.
It also captures the band at a time they were going through lineup changes, substance abuse rehabilitation, and general tension and so on. You can hear the struggle of that in the music- and it maybe explains why the album feels genuine, but lacking. But there's charm to it being such a musically obvious reflection of the band's state at the time
Lastly, one interesting aspect of the album is that they finally kept their songs to a more reasonable length. Their other albums could use that level of editing too, tbh. Long songs aren't always a problem, but Metallica wastes time in a lot of their songs. There's no need for three intros to every song, and that's one thing St. Anger got right, funny enough
No matter how the album is redone if the lyrics and vocal delivery remain the same I'll never be able to enjoy anything from this album. Those elements are just so bad it kills all enjoyment for me.
I'm also a fan who doesn't care for Death Magnetic or the majority of Hardwired. It feels like a terrible three album run to me and their lowest period. They reoriented and nailed it on the newest however. And I love absolutely everything pre Anger. All of it.