This will sound dismissive, but was there a particular reason you submitted this? It's an incredibly popular song, and the YouTube video has over 500 million views. I think it's pretty unlikely...
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This will sound dismissive, but was there a particular reason you submitted this? It's an incredibly popular song, and the YouTube video has over 500 million views. I think it's pretty unlikely that it's new to anyone, so I'm curious what motivated you to post it now.
Do you think a "popular" or "nostalgia" type tag might help this sort of super popular music post to coexist with the new/obscure stuff? I think both have a place, but I can definitely see some...
Do you think a "popular" or "nostalgia" type tag might help this sort of super popular music post to coexist with the new/obscure stuff? I think both have a place, but I can definitely see some people wanting to be able to filter this sort of stuff out.
Maybe, though then you have to figure out the threshold/requirements for it, which can be ugly. I think ideally we'd probably want to try to handle this by scraping metadata from YouTube videos...
Maybe, though then you have to figure out the threshold/requirements for it, which can be ugly. I think ideally we'd probably want to try to handle this by scraping metadata from YouTube videos (and other sources of music), and then people could set their own thresholds to be able to say things like "filter out posts from ~music that have more than 10M views" and so on.
That would be pretty sweet, but we may need to set an arbitrary view/listen limit for applying a tag temporarily until that is in place. p.s. @Amarok, @arghdos, @Parliament and the other L2T mods...
That would be pretty sweet, but we may need to set an arbitrary view/listen limit for applying a tag temporarily until that is in place.
p.s. @Amarok, @arghdos, @Parliament and the other L2T mods can probably give you a ton of good advice on how to use metadata gathered from the various available music database APIs to determine popularity if/when you do decide to implement that though.
Yep. We learned rather a lot modding listentothis and dozens of other music communities over the years. The right way to do this is to tag the popularity numbers directly into the submission...
Yep. We learned rather a lot modding listentothis and dozens of other music communities over the years. The right way to do this is to tag the popularity numbers directly into the submission itself using scrapers. That should also include artist, album, release year, track name, genre etc - every scrap of data that's relevant for classifying music.
Once that's done, we can build a header bar across ~music (and let mods of all other ~music groups build them too) that allows the user to, with a simple click, change the view of the submissions they see when visiting the place.
That'll put all of the usual infighting over genres and popularity to bed by placing it into the hands of the users. Whenever someone complains about it, the proper answer is 'learn how to filter!'. We can make that pretty damn easy.
I have a couple pages on how to do this right here.
We can extend this to all sorts of other content as well. I know how to do this for music. I gotta imagine the /r/books mods could tell you what to grab for books, the /r/movies mods could tell you what to grab for cinema, and the /r/television mods can do the same for shows. There's probably a way to do this for science journals, even major news outlets.
If the site looks it all up, that means the admins control the uniformity - we're not relying on hundreds of humans all tagging things differently/incorrectly. We can make the user's laziness work for us rather than against us. When they click 'suggest a title' we can pull up everything else that's relevant from locally stored databases and a handful of websites. When I last checked into this, almost all the major data sources have locally-available versions of themselves, so Tildes doesn't have to burn bandwidth and make a ton of external connections looking all this up. All it's got to do is hit the link, grab all the metadata it can find, and then crossreference that with the local data. That'll provide tags, title suggestions, a repost check if we want it, and all sorts of relevant links that we can populate the sidebar with over on the right.
~listentothis shouldn't need to exist on Tildes. It was necessary on reddit because there was no way to filter the popular music circlejerks out of /r/music. Here, ~listentothis would just be a specialized view of the content of the entire ~music hierarchy and all of its sub-groups.
I even have some (moderately crappy :p) code that already extracts channels / views from YT & SC. As soon as my life quiets down a bit (read: I finish my frickin' PhD) I plan to clean it up and...
I even have some (moderately crappy :p) code that already extracts channels / views from YT & SC. As soon as my life quiets down a bit (read: I finish my frickin' PhD) I plan to clean it up and migrate it over here.
Oh damn... what's your PhD in, if you don't mind my asking? And yeah if you migrated the L2T bot code over so it could be used for filtering by popularity here, I would <3 you forever. :P
Oh damn... what's your PhD in, if you don't mind my asking? And yeah if you migrated the L2T bot code over so it could be used for filtering by popularity here, I would <3 you forever. :P
Short answer: combustion. Long answer with lots of acronyms: My thesis is entitled: "Accelerating reacting flow simulations via vectorized chemical kinetic integration" -- essentially using GPUs...
Short answer: combustion.
Long answer with lots of acronyms:
My thesis is entitled: "Accelerating reacting flow simulations via vectorized chemical kinetic integration" -- essentially using GPUs and SIMD-vectorization on CPUs to speed-up the solution of the chemistry components of CFD simulations of reacting-flows (i.e., air that also just so happens to be on fire). Nominally I'm in the Mech. E department, but I overlap a bunch with chemistry and computer science.
:p
And yeah if you migrated the L2T bot code over so it could be used for filtering by popularity here, I would <3 you forever. :P
Also, automated title formatting. Let's just eliminate about 85% of the modmail we get on l2t with one fell-swoop, eh?
I have never had to use google that much in a single paragraph before... so it must be important work! :P And yeah, automatic suggestions for tags and auto-formatting for titles is definitely one...
I have never had to use google that much in a single paragraph before... so it must be important work! :P
And yeah, automatic suggestions for tags and auto-formatting for titles is definitely one of the things I definitely think Tildes can and should eventually do. The less work people need to do, content submitters and trusted users alike, the better... especially as the site scales.
I adore Evanescence. It's morose music and incredibly emo, which I am only in the mood for occasionally, but it's just so well composed, produced and especially sung that it's one of my go-tos...
I adore Evanescence. It's morose music and incredibly emo, which I am only in the mood for occasionally, but it's just so well composed, produced and especially sung that it's one of my go-tos when I am in that mood (Staind, too). My favorite song with Amy Lee in it is Seether - Broken though.
Have you listened to (mostly older) Nightwish at all? Not quite the same style of music, but they have a lot of well-written and sung songs as well that are often quite sad. Dead Boy's Poem is a...
Have you listened to (mostly older) Nightwish at all? Not quite the same style of music, but they have a lot of well-written and sung songs as well that are often quite sad. Dead Boy's Poem is a good example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e-AeRiDEBw
Yeah they are great... or rather, were... I am not a fan of either of the new singers since Tarja Turunen left, so haven't listened to much of their new stuff... which I assume is why you...
Yeah they are great... or rather, were... I am not a fan of either of the new singers since Tarja Turunen left, so haven't listened to much of their new stuff... which I assume is why you mentioned "mostly older" since you feel the same? :P
My Immortal is a Harry Potter fan fiction serially published on FanFiction.Net between 2006 and 2007. Known for its incomprehensible narrative and constant digressions, the story centers on a 17-year-old female vampire, a non-canonical character, and her relationships with the characters of the Harry Potter series, most notably her romantic relationship with Draco Malfoy. Ultimately, she is prompted by visions to travel back in time to try to defeat the main antagonist of the series, Lord Voldemort.
Hah. I presume you're recommending it because it's so terrible? :P
This will sound dismissive, but was there a particular reason you submitted this? It's an incredibly popular song, and the YouTube video has over 500 million views. I think it's pretty unlikely that it's new to anyone, so I'm curious what motivated you to post it now.
No particular reason. just wanted to share my favourite song.
Do you think a "popular" or "nostalgia" type tag might help this sort of super popular music post to coexist with the new/obscure stuff? I think both have a place, but I can definitely see some people wanting to be able to filter this sort of stuff out.
Maybe, though then you have to figure out the threshold/requirements for it, which can be ugly. I think ideally we'd probably want to try to handle this by scraping metadata from YouTube videos (and other sources of music), and then people could set their own thresholds to be able to say things like "filter out posts from ~music that have more than 10M views" and so on.
That would be pretty sweet, but we may need to set an arbitrary view/listen limit for applying a tag temporarily until that is in place.
p.s. @Amarok, @arghdos, @Parliament and the other L2T mods can probably give you a ton of good advice on how to use metadata gathered from the various available music database APIs to determine popularity if/when you do decide to implement that though.
Yep. We learned rather a lot modding listentothis and dozens of other music communities over the years. The right way to do this is to tag the popularity numbers directly into the submission itself using scrapers. That should also include artist, album, release year, track name, genre etc - every scrap of data that's relevant for classifying music.
Once that's done, we can build a header bar across ~music (and let mods of all other ~music groups build them too) that allows the user to, with a simple click, change the view of the submissions they see when visiting the place.
That'll put all of the usual infighting over genres and popularity to bed by placing it into the hands of the users. Whenever someone complains about it, the proper answer is 'learn how to filter!'. We can make that pretty damn easy.
I have a couple pages on how to do this right here.
We can extend this to all sorts of other content as well. I know how to do this for music. I gotta imagine the /r/books mods could tell you what to grab for books, the /r/movies mods could tell you what to grab for cinema, and the /r/television mods can do the same for shows. There's probably a way to do this for science journals, even major news outlets.
If the site looks it all up, that means the admins control the uniformity - we're not relying on hundreds of humans all tagging things differently/incorrectly. We can make the user's laziness work for us rather than against us. When they click 'suggest a title' we can pull up everything else that's relevant from locally stored databases and a handful of websites. When I last checked into this, almost all the major data sources have locally-available versions of themselves, so Tildes doesn't have to burn bandwidth and make a ton of external connections looking all this up. All it's got to do is hit the link, grab all the metadata it can find, and then crossreference that with the local data. That'll provide tags, title suggestions, a repost check if we want it, and all sorts of relevant links that we can populate the sidebar with over on the right.
~listentothis shouldn't need to exist on Tildes. It was necessary on reddit because there was no way to filter the popular music circlejerks out of /r/music. Here, ~listentothis would just be a specialized view of the content of the entire ~music hierarchy and all of its sub-groups.
I even have some (moderately crappy :p) code that already extracts channels / views from YT & SC. As soon as my life quiets down a bit (read: I finish my frickin' PhD) I plan to clean it up and migrate it over here.
Oh damn... what's your PhD in, if you don't mind my asking? And yeah if you migrated the L2T bot code over so it could be used for filtering by popularity here, I would <3 you forever. :P
Short answer: combustion.
Long answer with lots of acronyms:
My thesis is entitled: "Accelerating reacting flow simulations via vectorized chemical kinetic integration" -- essentially using GPUs and SIMD-vectorization on CPUs to speed-up the solution of the chemistry components of CFD simulations of reacting-flows (i.e., air that also just so happens to be on fire). Nominally I'm in the Mech. E department, but I overlap a bunch with chemistry and computer science.
:p
Also, automated title formatting. Let's just eliminate about 85% of the modmail we get on l2t with one fell-swoop, eh?
I have never had to use google that much in a single paragraph before... so it must be important work! :P
And yeah, automatic suggestions for tags and auto-formatting for titles is definitely one of the things I definitely think Tildes can and should eventually do. The less work people need to do, content submitters and trusted users alike, the better... especially as the site scales.
I adore Evanescence. It's morose music and incredibly emo, which I am only in the mood for occasionally, but it's just so well composed, produced and especially sung that it's one of my go-tos when I am in that mood (Staind, too). My favorite song with Amy Lee in it is Seether - Broken though.
Have you listened to (mostly older) Nightwish at all? Not quite the same style of music, but they have a lot of well-written and sung songs as well that are often quite sad. Dead Boy's Poem is a good example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e-AeRiDEBw
Yeah they are great... or rather, were... I am not a fan of either of the new singers since Tarja Turunen left, so haven't listened to much of their new stuff... which I assume is why you mentioned "mostly older" since you feel the same? :P
Hey, new Nightwish is good too. It's just good for slightly different reasons than old Nightwish.
If anyone hasn't, you should check out the fan fiction by the same name as the song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Immortal_(fan_fiction)
Hah. I presume you're recommending it because it's so terrible? :P
If you are familiar with Harry Potter and/or mid 2000's emo culture, it is some of the funniest shit in the world.
If you want to see a hilariously animated rendition of that fan fiction -> Internet Historian
I'm going to guess I shouldn't watch that at work.