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Comment on Evanescence - My Immortal (2000) in ~music
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Comment on Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat? in ~tildes
senorclean (edited )Link ParentI think the flat earth example doesn't exactly work here though because there is a significant amount of objective data to contradict that idea. A lot of the issues that seem to generate vitriolic...I think the flat earth example doesn't exactly work here though because there is a significant amount of objective data to contradict that idea. A lot of the issues that seem to generate vitriolic discussion on forums tend to be sociopolitical issues where there isn't as clear "yes or no" answer. Using @Algernon_Asimov's example above, if I were to say that I think immigration into my country should be very difficult because I think the social systems and culture in place would be heavily modified/burdened, it's much more difficult to prove this is flat-out wrong.
I think that would be a pretty unpopular opinion here and I would be in the minority. Expressing this opinion would likely just be an uphill battle for me because 90% of the responses to my comment would be trying to refute my points. And I'm not saying this is bad either because it could lead me to reevaluate my reasoning but the comments reaffirming the majority's mentality will likely be upvoted more and more numerous and give the impression that my opinion is wrong almost immediately. So then I would ask myself: "why even bother expressing this opinion?". And if this cycle continues, you only have people responding that already affirm the majority's beliefs and I would consider that an echo chamber.
I'm not anti-immigration or anything either just to make that clear. I was just using that as an example.
EDIT: And the definition I found for echo chamber was: "a situation in which people only hear opinions of one type, or opinions that are similar to their own". I think the term is pretty apt here
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Comment on Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat? in ~tildes
senorclean That's actually been my opinion as well so far. There's definitely a specific tone to threads but the lack of bloat and genuine conversation is a nice change of pace from Reddit. I guess using the...That's actually been my opinion as well so far. There's definitely a specific tone to threads but the lack of bloat and genuine conversation is a nice change of pace from Reddit. I guess using the term "echo-chamber" was a poor choice given how often people have referenced it.
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Comment on Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat? in ~tildes
senorclean Exactly. Your comment outlines what I was trying to get across but didn't express as clearly evidently. Several people in this thread have immediately assumed that I'm right-wing or hold specific...Exactly. Your comment outlines what I was trying to get across but didn't express as clearly evidently. Several people in this thread have immediately assumed that I'm right-wing or hold specific beliefs just because of what I asked and none of these assumptions are true. It's just annoying that people (and I include myself in this as well) are terrible at being self-critical (interesting article that was posted on Reddit a while back about it)
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Comment on Coheed And Cambria - Unheavenly Creatures (2018) in ~music
senorclean Wow I never really thought about why I couldn't get in the last few albums but I think that's the exact reason. It just seemed like too much was going on and what they were trying to do was just...Their sound became very busy
Wow I never really thought about why I couldn't get in the last few albums but I think that's the exact reason. It just seemed like too much was going on and what they were trying to do was just getting lost in the noise.
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Comment on Coheed And Cambria - Unheavenly Creatures (2018) in ~music
senorclean C&C is a band that I've wanted to like for a long time. When they first got really popular I couldn't stand the lead singer's voice but I've since grown to like it. Despite that, none of their...C&C is a band that I've wanted to like for a long time. When they first got really popular I couldn't stand the lead singer's voice but I've since grown to like it. Despite that, none of their last few albums did anything for me. I'm a few songs into this so far and I really dig it though thanks for sharing!
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Comment on Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat? in ~tildes
senorclean I've seen Hypernormalization before and also Century of Self which were both interesting. I'll check out those other two though thanks for sharing!I've seen Hypernormalization before and also Century of Self which were both interesting. I'll check out those other two though thanks for sharing!
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Comment on Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat? in ~tildes
senorclean I actually don't want to request that anything be done honestly; I just want to generate some discussion on this to see how people felt since this community is relatively new. I agree and that's...I actually don't want to request that anything be done honestly; I just want to generate some discussion on this to see how people felt since this community is relatively new.
It is impossible to just objectively state the facts of a news story.
I agree and that's exactly why I think it would be a good idea to read articles from news outlets that don't align with your political views. My aim isn't to form a completely balanced opinion. I know this is completely futile. My aim is to understand how people who believe fundamentally different things came to those conclusions. And I guess based on the answers in this thread, using one content-aggregate site isn't a feasible means to accomplish that.
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Comment on Red Letter Media discussing original Psycho in ~movies
senorclean Yeah I'm also a fan of Jay. His opinions on movies are closer to mine than Mike's and I also love weird artsy movies like A Ghost Story and since Jay really seems to be into Mandy I want to give...Yeah I'm also a fan of Jay. His opinions on movies are closer to mine than Mike's and I also love weird artsy movies like A Ghost Story and since Jay really seems to be into Mandy I want to give that one a watch when I get the chance.
Well we clearly have similar taste in movies because I've seen all of those except Gerald's Game (which is also another movie that Jay recommended ;) ). I saw the original Let The Right One In and I thought it was great but I don't really have the best experiences with American remakes (Oldboy is actually a great example of this) so I haven't checked out the American one.
What We Do in the Shadows is such a great movie! It's pretty rare to find a movie with that comedy style so I've been following Taika Waititi's movies ever since.
I feel like I've honestly exhausted all psychological thriller movies at this point because it's my favorite genre so I've been forced to watch other things until Fincher, Lynch, etc make something else. And now I'll be taking a closer look at Hitchcock. I've only seen Rope and The Birds so I'll be checking out North by Northwest and Vertigo soon. What have you been watching recently?
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Comment on Red Letter Media discussing original Psycho in ~movies
senorclean I'm a big fan of these guys and I like their long-format reviews. Although I claim to be really into movies, I'm ashamed to admit that I've never seen Psycho. Are there any good Halloween movies...I'm a big fan of these guys and I like their long-format reviews. Although I claim to be really into movies, I'm ashamed to admit that I've never seen Psycho. Are there any good Halloween movies you can recommend? My favorite would be the original "Candy Man".
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Red Letter Media discussing original Psycho
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Comment on Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat? in ~tildes
senorclean Yeah that's actually what prompted me to post this. You see a couple of the political posts here and can immediately get a sense of which way the website leans. And it wouldn't be much of a...Yeah that's actually what prompted me to post this. You see a couple of the political posts here and can immediately get a sense of which way the website leans. And it wouldn't be much of a problem if that was limited to just the discussion of an article but when you don't even have right-wing articles posted then everything is pushed in one direction from the start.
It just reminds me of visiting my parents (who are right-wing) and how we just fundamentally disagree on many things politically. Even though I may disagree with them, it's still interesting to hear their side of things. And sometimes they prove my assumptions wrong as well. They get their information from a completely different sphere than I do and it makes me realize that even though I feel like I have "the true information", they feel the same way. By taking in information from a source that doesn't support your beliefs, you can understand why someone believes that and challenge the roots of that belief instead of just butting heads.
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Is this place going to become the anti-thesis of Voat?
I just joined this website today and I like it quite a bit already. Several of the design choices seem to be really well thought out and the community seems pretty open to discussion, etc. While...
I just joined this website today and I like it quite a bit already. Several of the design choices seem to be really well thought out and the community seems pretty open to discussion, etc. While reading the initial email you receive when signing up, the creator talks about how this place isn't going to be a bastion of free speech and certain types of content (hate speech, etc) won't be tolerated and I understand where he is coming from.
I'm sure many people are aware of Voat and how it was a response to Reddit censoring several subreddits (/r/the_donald, /r/fatpeoplehate, etc) and if you go there now, it's pretty much exactly the type of demographic you would expect to occupy those subreddits originally.
But while I can see where the creator is coming from with his approach, I guess I'm just curious where you guys would draw the line? Because making a place that caters to people that you could say are on the opposite side of the Voat spectrum seems like a great breeding ground for another echo chamber. And I guess I've become a bit disillusioned with the idea that I can get "balanced" opinions on controversial topics on content-aggregate websites. Maybe that's not even possible with this format. Either way, I'm wondering if anyone feels the same.
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Comment on Disney - The magic of animation in ~movies
senorclean Yeah I agree. His presentation is top-notch but there just seems to be a surface-level analysis of whatever topic he's discussing. And that's not to say that it dissuades me from watching his...Yeah I agree. His presentation is top-notch but there just seems to be a surface-level analysis of whatever topic he's discussing. And that's not to say that it dissuades me from watching his videos or anything but I feel like without the editing, his channel wouldn't be nearly as popular.
That said, I feel like his first video (the one about Adult Swim) was his most coherent because he really had something to say. Or maybe I'm just biased because I also grew up with Adult Swim and every time I watch that video it's like a nostalgia-bomb going off.
If you want to see a hilariously animated rendition of that fan fiction -> Internet Historian