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US asks Qatar to ‘turn down the volume’ of Al Jazeera news coverage

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  1. [3]
    FluffyKittens
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    I think this article mostly speaks for itself: But reminder for context: Israel bombed Al Jazeera's Gaza office building in 2021, with very little warning....

    I think this article mostly speaks for itself:

    This week Al Jazeera’s chief correspondent, Wael al-Dahdouh, became part of the unfolding story when his entire immediate family was killed in an Israeli airstrike on a house in the Nuseirat refugee camp, where they had relocated to after Israel’s warning on 13 October for residents to move from northern Gaza.

    The network broadcast footage of al-Dahdouh breaking down in grief as he peered at the body of his son in the hospital morgue. His wife, daughter and grandson were also killed in Tuesday’s strike, along with 21 other people.

    But reminder for context: Israel bombed Al Jazeera's Gaza office building in 2021, with very little warning.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_al-Jalaa_Building

    57 votes
    1. ignorabimus
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      And also shot and killed one of their journalists, Shireen Abu Akleh.

      And also shot and killed one of their journalists, Shireen Abu Akleh.

      41 votes
    2. Minori
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      There are long running tensions between Israel and Qatar, and it really seems like Israel has intentionally targeted Al Jazeera at times. Journalists absolutely shouldn't be casualties of a proxy...

      There are long running tensions between Israel and Qatar, and it really seems like Israel has intentionally targeted Al Jazeera at times. Journalists absolutely shouldn't be casualties of a proxy conflict.

      25 votes
  2. [12]
    unkz
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    I'm fairly certain that it would be illegal for the US government to do to an American media outlet, what they are asking Qatar to do to Al-Jazeera. It's a sort of concerning action from a...

    I'm fairly certain that it would be illegal for the US government to do to an American media outlet, what they are asking Qatar to do to Al-Jazeera. It's a sort of concerning action from a government that claims to be on the side of freedom.

    46 votes
    1. [4]
      Mrqewl
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      I think they do this all the time. Look at trumps criticism of CNN. On a legal front the gov just had a lawsuit against the election lies for voting machines. US gov is not giving aljazeera an...

      I think they do this all the time. Look at trumps criticism of CNN. On a legal front the gov just had a lawsuit against the election lies for voting machines.

      US gov is not giving aljazeera an order. They are asking for reasons of national security. They aren't breaking any of the US laws, and the US converses with many news networks in private all the time

      20 votes
      1. Moonchild
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        Where is the line between questioning and coercion—thinly veiled threats? A government should be conservative. The us government does all sorts of terrible things all the time. I'm not saying this...

        Where is the line between questioning and coercion—thinly veiled threats? A government should be conservative.

        they do this all the time

        The us government does all sorts of terrible things all the time. I'm not saying this is one, but that's a nonargument.

        19 votes
      2. [2]
        unkz
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        Trump’s behaviour is absurd though. I think it’s clear that he is a habitual criminal. I’m not familiar with a government lawsuit regarding the voting machines, what’s that about? Also, I’m not...

        Trump’s behaviour is absurd though. I think it’s clear that he is a habitual criminal. I’m not familiar with a government lawsuit regarding the voting machines, what’s that about?

        Also, I’m not saying what the US government is doing is illegal, because it’s not a US corporation that they are trying to silence. I’m aware that they are also not giving Al-Jazeera an order. What they are doing is asking Qatar, which is a brutal autocratic hereditary monarchy, to give an order to Al-Jazeera.

        5 votes
        1. smiles134
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          I was a little confused about the wording too, but I think they're talking about Dominion vs. Fox News which didn't actually involve the federal government.

          I was a little confused about the wording too, but I think they're talking about Dominion vs. Fox News which didn't actually involve the federal government.

          3 votes
    2. [3]
      updawg
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      Al Jazeera is state-owned. It's irrelevant what it would be illegal for the US to do to independent press.

      Al Jazeera is state-owned. It's irrelevant what it would be illegal for the US to do to independent press.

      5 votes
      1. [2]
        unkz
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        It sounds like Al-Jazeera has a similar relationship to the state that NPR, the CBC, and the BBC have to their host states. Can you imagine the US telling Canada or the UK to moderate their...

        It sounds like Al-Jazeera has a similar relationship to the state that NPR, the CBC, and the BBC have to their host states. Can you imagine the US telling Canada or the UK to moderate their broadcasts, or intervening in NPR’s editorial process?

        Al Jazeera Media Network is a "Private Foundation of Public Benefit" under Qatari law. Under this structure, Al Jazeera Media Network receives funding from the government of Qatar, but maintains its editorial independence.

        9 votes
        1. updawg
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          NPR gets 1% of its budget directly from the federal government, and remember that there is a difference between NPR and the different NPR affiliate stations around the country who essentially just...

          NPR gets 1% of its budget directly from the federal government, and remember that there is a difference between NPR and the different NPR affiliate stations around the country who essentially just pay to be able to use NPR's programming (along with programming that is locally-produced or comes from other sources such as PRX).

          Al Jazeera gets 90% of its funding from the government.

          Regardless of how imperfect you think it is, the US is a democracy.

          Qatar's hereditary emir holds all executive and legislative authority and ultimately controls the judiciary. Political parties are not permitted, and the only elections are for an advisory municipal council.

          The BBC and CBC are public service broadcasters whereas Al Jazeera is literally owned by the state.

          There is a very significant difference.

          11 votes
    3. [4]
      kaiomai
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      The government making a request, not an order, is illegal in the US? I have been reading the wrong history books.

      The government making a request, not an order, is illegal in the US? I have been reading the wrong history books.

      4 votes
      1. [3]
        unkz
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        I don’t think the US government has the ability to “moderate” CNN’s coverage, do they?

        I don’t think the US government has the ability to “moderate” CNN’s coverage, do they?

        1 vote
        1. kaiomai
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          Of course they don't. This entire story is literally nothing. "Foreign government makes request that news network can, and will, ignore." It is a daily occurrence. Literally every day this...

          Of course they don't. This entire story is literally nothing.

          "Foreign government makes request that news network can, and will, ignore."

          It's a sort of concerning action from a government that claims to be on the side of freedom.

          It is a daily occurrence. Literally every day this happens. This is such a non-story that it is mildly entertaining.

          "Breaking news: Government makes a request of private entity! Sound the alarms!"

          9 votes
        2. nukeman
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          Not directly, no. But if they make a request, and CNN refuses, they can punt them down the priority list for news items, deny access to sources, etc.

          Not directly, no. But if they make a request, and CNN refuses, they can punt them down the priority list for news items, deny access to sources, etc.

          1 vote