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Rush Limbaugh dead at seventy

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  1. [6]
    dubteedub
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    Good obit from Huffington Post here that touches on just a few of the abhorrent racist, sexist, homophobic, conspiracy mongering examples about Rush over the years. Rush Limbaugh, Bigoted King Of...

    Good obit from Huffington Post here that touches on just a few of the abhorrent racist, sexist, homophobic, conspiracy mongering examples about Rush over the years.

    He was a deeply evil person and I have nothing good to say about him today.

    41 votes
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      nacho
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      Thanks for sharing that obit. It is indeed worth reading. I hope tildes will manage to discuss the impact of his life rather than pointless grave dancing. That sort of behavior does no-one any...

      Thanks for sharing that obit. It is indeed worth reading.

      I hope tildes will manage to discuss the impact of his life rather than pointless grave dancing.

      That sort of behavior does no-one any good, and just helps those who don't have a negative view of Limbaugh reinforce their views rather than take this as an opportunity to reflect on what his legacy is.

      12 votes
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        dubteedub
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        The Daily Beast also has a very extensive obituary on Rush today as well that is worth checking out. Rush Limbaugh, the Human Megaphone Who Hijacked the GOP, Dead at 70 This one doesn't cover the...

        The Daily Beast also has a very extensive obituary on Rush today as well that is worth checking out.

        This one doesn't cover the low-lights of Rush like the Huffington Post, but has more consideration for his broader impact on shifting the conservative party towards the far-right, demagoguery, and was the leader in founding what is now a completely alternative media ecosystem for tens of millions of Americans.

        Here are the last few paragraphs from the Daily Beast.

        “You cannot overstate the influence of Rush Limbaugh in what has happened to American conservatism,” said Charlie Sykes, a former Milwaukee talk radio host who is editor at large for The Bulwark, a Never-Trump conservative news and opinion site. “You can track the trajectory of the rise and the derangement of the conservative movement by tracking Limbaugh. And what really was extraordinary is that the early Rush Limbaugh popularized relatively arcane conservative ideas and he practically created the entire genre of alternative conservative media.

        “But, fast-forward, he explicitly acknowledged ultimately that conservatism had lost, and he was no longer running what he liked to call ‘the university of conservative thought,’” Sykes continued. “And he was now just focusing on being anti-left wing. That also tracked with the transformation of a Republican party that became more strident, more relentlessly negative, more demagogic. There was a time when Rush had the possibility of being a thought leader on the right—and he basically squandered it.”

        16 votes
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          dubteedub
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          And another good one from Lawyers, Guns, and Money Blog. The Gasbag of Fascism This is a helluva lede:

          And another good one from Lawyers, Guns, and Money Blog.

          This is a helluva lede:

          Rush Limbaugh, the gasbag of fascism, is dead. This often drug-addled hypocrite dedicated his entire life to destroying American democracy, to promoting the power of the rich and the racist, to dividing Americans against each other, to ginning up hate and violence. Limbaugh is truly one of the worst Americans to ever pollute this nation.

          15 votes
          1. thundergolfer
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            Imagine being called “one of the worst Americans to ever pollute this nation” and deserving it. See ya Rush, may you rest in eternal disgrace.

            Imagine being called “one of the worst Americans to ever pollute this nation” and deserving it.

            See ya Rush, may you rest in eternal disgrace.

            6 votes
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    userexec
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    This man was by far the most prominent influence in propagandizing my dad and playing to his worst tendencies. You could look up official sources to contradict Rush in real time, but none of it...

    This man was by far the most prominent influence in propagandizing my dad and playing to his worst tendencies. You could look up official sources to contradict Rush in real time, but none of it mattered. Rush was truth, no matter what. Rush was the authoritative voice coming over the radio that dictated how everything was to be interpreted. I have no kind words to say.

    19 votes
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      dubteedub
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      100%. He claimed for years that smoking didn't have any harmful effects and said it was a myth. Today he died of lung cancer. You really can't make this stuff up.

      100%. He claimed for years that smoking didn't have any harmful effects and said it was a myth. Today he died of lung cancer. You really can't make this stuff up.

      24 votes
      1. joplin
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        This is the same guy who used to say that drug addicts were "human garbage," but who also had an opioid addiction, so I'm not too surprised.

        This is the same guy who used to say that drug addicts were "human garbage," but who also had an opioid addiction, so I'm not too surprised.

        15 votes
    2. Erik
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      I was just talking to my brother about how glad I was that my dad got uninterested in Rush during the 90s and how that probably saved him and my mom from going further down the rabbit hole of...

      I was just talking to my brother about how glad I was that my dad got uninterested in Rush during the 90s and how that probably saved him and my mom from going further down the rabbit hole of conservative disinformation. I remember his radio program being on around the farm while I was growing up, but when the farm died and my dad got a union job, Rush wasn't in the house any more. No idea for sure if the union helped him with that, but regardless, I feel fortunate that he gave it up all without me and my siblings having to try to get him off it.

      15 votes
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    Thrabalen
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    A person has died. I don't cheer deaths. I do cheer that he will no longer have any active influence on American politics. But I don't cheer a death.

    A person has died. I don't cheer deaths. I do cheer that he will no longer have any active influence on American politics. But I don't cheer a death.

    10 votes
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      Odysseus
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      I generally never celebrate anyone's death, not for any logical reason, but just because it never felt right. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong to celebrate a person's passing, just that it...

      I generally never celebrate anyone's death, not for any logical reason, but just because it never felt right. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong to celebrate a person's passing, just that it didn't feel right to me.
      Now, if we're celebrating that someone will no longer have any impact on the world as a result of their passing, is that any different from celebrating their death? Whenever I ask people this question, I usually get something back about the suffering and pain of the family of the deceased. It's a fair point, but I don't think anyone was celebrating that to begin with.

      6 votes
      1. Omnicrola
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        I think if it is acceptable to find joy/solace that someone who has died is no longer suffering, then it is also acceptable to celebrate that a person who has died is no longer causing suffering....

        I think if it is acceptable to find joy/solace that someone who has died is no longer suffering, then it is also acceptable to celebrate that a person who has died is no longer causing suffering. In either case, it is not the death itself that is the focus, but the positive side effects.

        10 votes
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    Kuromantis
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    Whenever someone who's 'evil' (not wrong, just simplified) dies, my personal preferred reason to be principled is to take a consequentialist (I think) view. Since, outside his show, not much will...

    Whenever someone who's 'evil' (not wrong, just simplified) dies, my personal preferred reason to be principled is to take a consequentialist (I think) view. Since, outside his show, not much will change, people's opinions on his death don't matter under this view and so you can just stick to your morals. Obviously this doesn't work if you've been personally affected by his show for the worse, but I find it useful for situations like this.

    4 votes
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      Good_Apollo
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      His death doesn’t really matter because his damage is already done, his legacy will continue to damage, and someone(s) else will pick up where he left off anyway.

      His death doesn’t really matter because his damage is already done, his legacy will continue to damage, and someone(s) else will pick up where he left off anyway.

      14 votes
      1. [4]
        joplin
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        Is there anyone in the panoply of right-wing media personalities who has the following Limbaugh had? When I think about his whole career, he was taken very seriously on the right from the 90s to...

        someone(s) else will pick up where he left off

        Is there anyone in the panoply of right-wing media personalities who has the following Limbaugh had? When I think about his whole career, he was taken very seriously on the right from the 90s to the early 2000s. He somehow managed to keep his bigotry just in check enough that what I would call "intellectual" right wingers seemed to take him as seriously as the average right-leaning person. Is there anyone like that anymore, or are they all Trump sycophants and Q-anon conspiracists (either real, or just for the clicks/views)? I mean, when I think of people like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson or Alex Jones, or someone like that, I don't see them affecting the whole right the way Limbaugh did. I see them driving small niches deeper into their echo chambers, but I don't see them building a wide base. But admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about that world, so maybe there's someone I'm not aware of?

        4 votes
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          Good_Apollo
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          I think you already listed a bunch of them. Unfortunately they're not minority voices in the conservative community. Limbaugh may have been the wider appeal Pope of this religion but everyone you...

          I think you already listed a bunch of them. Unfortunately they're not minority voices in the conservative community. Limbaugh may have been the wider appeal Pope of this religion but everyone you listed has been a big Cardinal for quite some time, not a small town priest.

          It's been a real slide man, my own father went from being the 'intellectual' Limbaugh listener like you say to now believing the MyPillow guy is some sort of bastion of truth.

          10 votes
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            joplin
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            Oh wow, that is depressing. I live in California, so that probably skews my view. Most of the conservatives I know don't take any of those people seriously, but they also didn't vote for Trump.

            Oh wow, that is depressing. I live in California, so that probably skews my view. Most of the conservatives I know don't take any of those people seriously, but they also didn't vote for Trump.

            4 votes
            1. Good_Apollo
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              Come over to Orange MAGA County. It’s everywhere.

              Come over to Orange MAGA County. It’s everywhere.

              6 votes
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