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The American Bar Association supports the rule of law

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  1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    I can only hope this helps.

    We call upon our elected representatives to stand with us and to insist upon adherence to the rule of law and the legal processes and procedures that ensure orderly change. The administration cannot choose which law it will follow or ignore. These are not partisan or political issues. These are rule of law and process issues. We cannot afford to remain silent. We must stand up for the values we hold dear. The ABA will do its part and act to protect the rule of law.

    We urge every attorney to join us and insist that our government, a government of the people, follow the law. It is part of the oath we took when we became lawyers. Whatever your political party or your views, change must be made in the right way. Americans expect no less.

    I can only hope this helps.

    25 votes
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    heraplem
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    This seems rather shocking coming from the ABA, no? How often do they take anything like a political stance?

    This seems rather shocking coming from the ABA, no? How often do they take anything like a political stance?

    17 votes
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      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      If it helps, scroll through their News page and that should give you a sense. I think they very carefully chose their stance here trying to say this is about fundamental principles of law, not a...

      If it helps, scroll through their News page and that should give you a sense. I think they very carefully chose their stance here trying to say this is about fundamental principles of law, not a political stance.

      22 votes
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        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Look, I generally hold the stance that everything is political, because apparently it has to be. But I think they were trying for a principled stance not a political one given the situation. I'm...

          Look, I generally hold the stance that everything is political, because apparently it has to be. But I think they were trying for a principled stance not a political one given the situation.

          I'm sure we'll revoke their government funding or security clearance or whatever they have that the president can take away tomorrow.

          24 votes
    2. [4]
      NoblePath
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      Aba is not all that influential or powerful, but it’s something. More meaningful would be something from the American Law Institute.

      Aba is not all that influential or powerful, but it’s something. More meaningful would be something from the American Law Institute.

      8 votes
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        vord
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        Don't they literally set the standards for determining accredited law programs nationwide? My impression as a layperson is that the ALI is a much smaller institution with a more narrowly focused...

        Don't they literally set the standards for determining accredited law programs nationwide?

        My impression as a layperson is that the ALI is a much smaller institution with a more narrowly focused objective.

        10 votes
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          NoblePath
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          Yes, about the ABA, and that matters. But their opinions on policy don't carry that much weight, and they are generally understood to be somewhat left leaning. The ALI's influence is much stronger...

          Yes, about the ABA, and that matters. But their opinions on policy don't carry that much weight, and they are generally understood to be somewhat left leaning.

          The ALI's influence is much stronger among judges and lawmakers, even if it is less public. It would be an extraordinary powerful event for them to make a statement about current goings on.

          10 votes
          1. vord
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            Thanks, that really helped clarify.

            Thanks, that really helped clarify.

            4 votes
  3. [3]
    Markpelly
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    I'm wondering if the republicans strategy is to do as much as possible, and are hoping that a few things are not overturned or challenged.

    I'm wondering if the republicans strategy is to do as much as possible, and are hoping that a few things are not overturned or challenged.

    2 votes
  4. [7]
    tanglisha
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    Apologies, this doesn't directly address the topic of conversation. Am I the only one who found that font practically unreadable? I opened it up on my tablet in the hopes it would be better than...

    Apologies, this doesn't directly address the topic of conversation.

    Am I the only one who found that font practically unreadable? I opened it up on my tablet in the hopes it would be better than my laptop, but it was not. That's the worst kerning I've ever seen coming from a professional association.

    1 vote
    1. [3]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      No, it was readable, it's noticeably a particular style, but I don't think it's anywhere near unreadable for me. The kerning seems consistent, just with very narrow spacing. Didn't phase me and...

      No, it was readable, it's noticeably a particular style, but I don't think it's anywhere near unreadable for me. The kerning seems consistent, just with very narrow spacing. Didn't phase me and somehow felt "lawyer-y"

      3 votes
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        tanglisha
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        Thanks! It’s the narrow spacing that was bothering me. I should maybe look into computer glasses.

        Thanks!

        It’s the narrow spacing that was bothering me. I should maybe look into computer glasses.

        2 votes
        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Not bothering me certainly doesn't mean it shouldn't bother you! Sometimes font really impacts reading.

          Not bothering me certainly doesn't mean it shouldn't bother you! Sometimes font really impacts reading.

          2 votes
    2. updawg
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      Unreadable? No. Annoying and uncomfortable to look at? Yes. I had a coworker who used a font like that on her emails because she thought it was better. It just made me not want to read them.

      Unreadable? No.

      Annoying and uncomfortable to look at? Yes.

      I had a coworker who used a font like that on her emails because she thought it was better. It just made me not want to read them.

      2 votes
    3. [2]
      CptBluebear
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      The keming is fine, but it's a bad font for sure. Not just the spacing, the letters themselves are too narrow and long. I think it's supposed to invoke a printed media feel but it misses the mark...

      The keming is fine, but it's a bad font for sure. Not just the spacing, the letters themselves are too narrow and long. I think it's supposed to invoke a printed media feel but it misses the mark and just becomes messy.

      1 vote
      1. tanglisha
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        Ha, I thought I was the only one who used keming.

        Ha, I thought I was the only one who used keming.