Live coverage LIVE: 2 people hospitalized after shooting involving federal agents in Portland | kgw.com Not a lot of information yet. Will update as I can. It does sound like once again the...
Not a lot of information yet. Will update as I can.
Portland police said their officers were called to 102nd and Southeast Main Street at about 2:20 p.m., where they said they confirmed federal agents were involved in a shooting.
In a statement shortly after the shooting was confirmed, Mayor Keith Wilson said that a day after that shooting that "Portland is now grappling with another deeply troubling incident."
"We cannot sit by while constitutional protections erode and bloodshed mounts. Portland is not a "training ground" for militarized agents, and the "full force" threatened by the administration has deadly consequences. As Mayor, I call on ICE to end all operations in Portland until a full investigation can be completed."
It does sound like once again the federal agents fled the scene before local PD arrived. They at least don't seem to be present.
Live updates: Protesters clash with authorities this morning after ICE agent’s killing of woman in Minneapolis | CNN From CNN, in the live news thread they have about MN. It's amazing how many...
From CNN, in the live news thread they have about MN.
It's amazing how many Venezuelan gang members there are running around the US. Even children in Chicago.
Border Patrol agent “fired a defensive shot” during vehicle stop in Portland shooting, DHS says
Per another CNN blurb lower down, they're a married couple.
The vehicle’s driver is believed to be a member of the Tren de Aragua gang, while the passenger and target was a Venezuelan migrant “affiliated with the transnational Tren de Aragua prostitution ring and involved in a recent shooting in Portland,” she said.
“When agents identified themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized his vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents,” McLaughlin said in a statement. “Fearing for his life and safety, an agent fired a defensive shot. The driver drove off with the passenger, fleeing the scene.”
Edit: of note, the scanners (posted on the pdxicewatch and other places) show EMS report two gunshot wounds on the man and one on the woman.
DHS claimed "a defensive shot"
Wanna bet they change that or are they gonna claim the bullet curved as the driver tried to hit the ICE agent or something
Edit: there's no new information tonight, it's earlier in Portland but until/unless footage gets released or the victims speak up ( they may be in surgery for example) even the city PD doesn't have more information apparently.
Funny how much "weaponizing a vehicle" is suddenly a thing when ICE agents want to shoot someone, and nothing like that is happening when peaceful protesters are the ones being hit by drivers.
Funny how much "weaponizing a vehicle" is suddenly a thing when ICE agents want to shoot someone, and nothing like that is happening when peaceful protesters are the ones being hit by drivers.
Don’t believe your lying eyes! On another note, I saw so many articles and headlines use the phrase “ICE-involved shooting”. Is there any phrase more infuriating? I know it’s been around for years...
Don’t believe your lying eyes!
On another note, I saw so many articles and headlines use the phrase “ICE-involved shooting”. Is there any phrase more infuriating? I know it’s been around for years for when the police shoot someone but it just makes me want to scream.
Oddly People Magazine's headlines were very direct the past few days. Which is weird but still nice. I've seen more articles being explicit about Good's killing and now this incident rather than...
Oddly People Magazine's headlines were very direct the past few days. Which is weird but still nice.
I've seen more articles being explicit about Good's killing and now this incident rather than the vague "a bullet somehow ended up inside that person after police fired their guns" bullshit.
Most people when confronted with someone armed at their car window are going to try to get away from them as quickly as possible. Not try to pull out a gun and shoot them. And generally that is in...
Most people when confronted with someone armed at their car window are going to try to get away from them as quickly as possible. Not try to pull out a gun and shoot them. And generally that is in fact the correct move for your own safety
Also, when the people confronting you outnumber you and are all wearing body armor and holding assault rifles... well good fucking luck. Her fate was sealed the moment they approached. There was...
Also, when the people confronting you outnumber you and are all wearing body armor and holding assault rifles... well good fucking luck. Her fate was sealed the moment they approached. There was no choice she could have made to secure a different outcome.
Edit: Ah jeez, this is the thread about Portland, not Minneapolis. Telling that we have not one but two ongoing threads about this shit.
yeah, but in talking before this even happen. instead of the whistles, they’ll use whistles. seems like this is the time for militias in accordance to the text.
yeah, but in talking before this even happen. instead of the whistles, they’ll use whistles.
seems like this is the time for militias in accordance to the text.
Portland shooting latest: State attorney general says he's opening probe - ABC News Wanted to add an article that seemed to be a good summary of the situation as of now. Portland is investigating...
Wanted to add an article that seemed to be a good summary of the situation as of now. Portland is investigating and calling for ICE to stop operating while that continues and for people to remain calm. Nothing super shocking there.
The target of ICE was the passenger/wife and the feds allege they're both gang members who "weaponized" the car against agents. (Who apparently let them go and didn't pursue the vehicle or anything. Sure. )
I don't know why everyone is saying ICE instead of CBP (not you, folk like the mayor). Same basket sure, and they all need to get the fuck out of our cities. But feels worth noting that they are...
I don't know why everyone is saying ICE instead of CBP (not you, folk like the mayor). Same basket sure, and they all need to get the fuck out of our cities. But feels worth noting that they are border agents and were operating in a state without a border. What were they doing there?
As far as I can tell, DHS has been deploying a mix of field agents in any given operation, wearing a mix of marked/unmarked equipment. It's not clear to me that the specifics really matter. That...
As far as I can tell, DHS has been deploying a mix of field agents in any given operation, wearing a mix of marked/unmarked equipment. It's not clear to me that the specifics really matter.
That said Portland is within 100 miles of the coast and has the Port of Portland including an international airport. CBP has jurisdiction in theory in that area.
For enforcement purposes, the U.S. defines any areas within 100 air miles of the geographical border as part of the border zone. From the American Civil Liberties Union's "Know Your Rights" page:...
For enforcement purposes, the U.S. defines any areas within 100 air miles of the geographical border as part of the border zone. From the American Civil Liberties Union's "Know Your Rights" page:
The federal government defines a “reasonable distance” as 100 air miles from any external boundary of the U.S. So, combining this federal regulation and the federal law regarding warrantless vehicle searches, CBP claims authority to board a bus or train without a warrant anywhere within this 100-mile zone. Nearly two-thirds of the U.S. population, over 213 million people, reside within the region that CBP considers falling within the 100-mile border zone, according to the 2020 census. Most of the 10 largest cities in the U.S., such as New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago, fall in this region. Some states, like Florida, lie entirely within this border band so their entire populations are impacted.
I'm in Michigan, so this is another state that's fully within the warrantless stop-and-search territory that CBP and ICE claim. The entire coastline of the U.S. (which encompasses Portland, OR) as well as land borders is included.
A Congressional bill to restore a more reasonable 10-mile zone around the borders has been stuck in committee since 2019.
Technically, Customs and Border Patrol only has jurisdiction in the border zone while Immigration and Customs Enforcement can operate anywhere in the interior U.S. But Trump 🤷♀️🤡💩.
Just joining my voice to this post! Angry, sad and if you haven't, at least if you are an American, call your federal Rep and Senators and demand that this be investigated. I wish things remained...
Just joining my voice to this post! Angry, sad and if you haven't, at least if you are an American, call your federal Rep and Senators and demand that this be investigated. I wish things remained a clown show but this is incredibly tragic with what is deadly consequences.
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Not a lot of information yet. Will update as I can.
It does sound like once again the federal agents fled the scene before local PD arrived. They at least don't seem to be present.
Live updates: Protesters clash with authorities this morning after ICE agent’s killing of woman in Minneapolis | CNN
From CNN, in the live news thread they have about MN.
It's amazing how many Venezuelan gang members there are running around the US. Even children in Chicago.
Per another CNN blurb lower down, they're a married couple.
Edit: of note, the scanners (posted on the pdxicewatch and other places) show EMS report two gunshot wounds on the man and one on the woman.
DHS claimed "a defensive shot"
Wanna bet they change that or are they gonna claim the bullet curved as the driver tried to hit the ICE agent or something
Edit: there's no new information tonight, it's earlier in Portland but until/unless footage gets released or the victims speak up ( they may be in surgery for example) even the city PD doesn't have more information apparently.
Funny how much "weaponizing a vehicle" is suddenly a thing when ICE agents want to shoot someone, and nothing like that is happening when peaceful protesters are the ones being hit by drivers.
Why would anyone believe anything they say about this after the lies we just saw them tell.
Don’t believe your lying eyes!
On another note, I saw so many articles and headlines use the phrase “ICE-involved shooting”. Is there any phrase more infuriating? I know it’s been around for years for when the police shoot someone but it just makes me want to scream.
Oddly People Magazine's headlines were very direct the past few days. Which is weird but still nice.
I've seen more articles being explicit about Good's killing and now this incident rather than the vague "a bullet somehow ended up inside that person after police fired their guns" bullshit.
Maybe there's starting to be a shift
isn’t this when the second amendment kicks in?
Most people when confronted with someone armed at their car window are going to try to get away from them as quickly as possible. Not try to pull out a gun and shoot them. And generally that is in fact the correct move for your own safety
Also, when the people confronting you outnumber you and are all wearing body armor and holding assault rifles... well good fucking luck. Her fate was sealed the moment they approached. There was no choice she could have made to secure a different outcome.
Edit: Ah jeez, this is the thread about Portland, not Minneapolis. Telling that we have not one but two ongoing threads about this shit.
And they're all too similar. Things are bad.
yeah, but in talking before this even happen. instead of the whistles, they’ll use whistles.
seems like this is the time for militias in accordance to the text.
One side's tyranny is the other side's law and order, apparently.
Portland shooting latest: State attorney general says he's opening probe - ABC News
Wanted to add an article that seemed to be a good summary of the situation as of now. Portland is investigating and calling for ICE to stop operating while that continues and for people to remain calm. Nothing super shocking there.
The target of ICE was the passenger/wife and the feds allege they're both gang members who "weaponized" the car against agents. (Who apparently let them go and didn't pursue the vehicle or anything. Sure. )
I don't know why everyone is saying ICE instead of CBP (not you, folk like the mayor). Same basket sure, and they all need to get the fuck out of our cities. But feels worth noting that they are border agents and were operating in a state without a border. What were they doing there?
As far as I can tell, DHS has been deploying a mix of field agents in any given operation, wearing a mix of marked/unmarked equipment. It's not clear to me that the specifics really matter.
That said Portland is within 100 miles of the coast and has the Port of Portland including an international airport. CBP has jurisdiction in theory in that area.
Good points, thanks~
For enforcement purposes, the U.S. defines any areas within 100 air miles of the geographical border as part of the border zone. From the American Civil Liberties Union's "Know Your Rights" page:
I'm in Michigan, so this is another state that's fully within the warrantless stop-and-search territory that CBP and ICE claim. The entire coastline of the U.S. (which encompasses Portland, OR) as well as land borders is included.
A Congressional bill to restore a more reasonable 10-mile zone around the borders has been stuck in committee since 2019.
Technically, Customs and Border Patrol only has jurisdiction in the border zone while Immigration and Customs Enforcement can operate anywhere in the interior U.S. But Trump 🤷♀️🤡💩.
Just joining my voice to this post! Angry, sad and if you haven't, at least if you are an American, call your federal Rep and Senators and demand that this be investigated. I wish things remained a clown show but this is incredibly tragic with what is deadly consequences.