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Jon Gruden, Raiders coach, resigns after homophobic and misogynistic emails

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  1. [8]
    Thales
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    (Here's an AP article for those who don't have access to the NYT.) What an awful story. Despite their smiling, inclusive facades, this sort of bigotry seems rampant behind the scenes in all of the...

    (Here's an AP article for those who don't have access to the NYT.)

    What an awful story. Despite their smiling, inclusive facades, this sort of bigotry seems rampant behind the scenes in all of the Big Four leagues.

    5 votes
    1. [7]
      cfabbro
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      The originally submitted link actually included an access token in the URL, which allowed even non-subscribers to read it. @mycketforvirrad, IMO the access token element was probably worth keeping...

      who don't have access to the NYT

      The originally submitted link actually included an access token in the URL, which allowed even non-subscribers to read it.

      @mycketforvirrad, IMO the access token element was probably worth keeping so people can actually read the article. cc: @Deimos too, if you feel like weighing in on this issue.

      2 votes
      1. [6]
        Deimos
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        Where do those bypass tokens ("unlocked article code") come from? Would it be considered "legitimate" to distribute it for others to use, or is it closer to abusing a site functionality that's...

        Where do those bypass tokens ("unlocked article code") come from? Would it be considered "legitimate" to distribute it for others to use, or is it closer to abusing a site functionality that's meant to let a specific user avoid needing to log in or something similar?

        2 votes
        1. [5]
          cfabbro
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          AFAIK, if you're a subscriber you are allowed to share a certain amount of articles per month using your tokens so that non-subscribers you know can read them without encountering the paywall. I...

          AFAIK, if you're a subscriber you are allowed to share a certain amount of articles per month using your tokens so that non-subscribers you know can read them without encountering the paywall. I have no idea how widely you're supposed to spread them though, or if this (sharing it on a link aggregator) would technically violate any terms. NYT is not the only paper that does this now though, and it seems to be getting a lot more common among paywalled news services, so sharing them here is probably something that does need to be addressed at some point.

          As for this case, I suspect @Kenny is a NYT subscriber and used one of theirs? If so, they might be able to enlighten us on the specific terms of their use.

          1 vote
          1. [4]
            streblo
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            Appears to be this feature: https://open.nytimes.com/a-new-way-to-share-new-york-times-stories-3e66e8d7e620 Seems targeted at family and friends, but also doesn't mention any sort of intended...

            Appears to be this feature: https://open.nytimes.com/a-new-way-to-share-new-york-times-stories-3e66e8d7e620

            Seems targeted at family and friends, but also doesn't mention any sort of intended capacity to the link beyond limiting each subscriber to 10 a month.

            2 votes
            1. [3]
              Deimos
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              This is the page about the feature on their help site: https://help.nytimes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360060848652-Gift-Articles-for-New-York-Times-Subscribers Clicking the "gift" button pops up...

              This is the page about the feature on their help site: https://help.nytimes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360060848652-Gift-Articles-for-New-York-Times-Subscribers

              Clicking the "gift" button pops up options to send the link out on places like Twitter and Reddit, so it definitely seems like they're okay with having them shared to a large audience.

              The unlock will stop working in 14 days though (shouldn't really matter in most cases, probably just worth noting):

              Once I share a gift article, how long do recipients have to read it? Can I share it multiple times?

              Once you create a gift article, you can share it as much as you’d like through any of the gift article share options for the remainder of the calendar month. The article can be viewed unlimited times in the 14 day period before the link expires. While an article is open for access, anyone you share it with will be able to read the full article.

              (@cfabbro)

              4 votes
              1. [2]
                Kenny
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                Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize it was 14 days, but knew it was acceptable to share to larger audiences.

                Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize it was 14 days, but knew it was acceptable to share to larger audiences.

                1 vote
                1. streblo
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                  If the 'expired' link just defaults to the paywalled article (which I have to imagine is the case) I see no reason for subscribers not to submit these gift articles on Tildes from now on. Thanks,...

                  If the 'expired' link just defaults to the paywalled article (which I have to imagine is the case) I see no reason for subscribers not to submit these gift articles on Tildes from now on. Thanks, had no idea about this feature.

                  3 votes
  2. Kenny
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    He denounced the emergence of women as referees, the drafting of a gay player and the tolerance of players protesting during the playing of the national anthem, according to emails reviewed by The Times.

    Gruden’s messages were sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, and others, while he was working for ESPN as a color analyst during “Monday Night Football.” In the emails, Gruden called the league’s commissioner, Roger Goodell, a “faggot” and a “clueless anti football pussy” and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft “queers,” a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.

    In numerous emails during a seven-year period ending in early 2018, Gruden criticized Goodell and the league for trying to reduce concussions and said that Eric Reid, a player who had demonstrated during the playing of the national anthem, should be fired. In several instances, Gruden used a homophobic slur to refer to Goodell and offensive language to describe some N.F.L. owners, coaches and journalists who cover the league.

    3 votes
  3. [2]
    an_angry_tiger
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    Honest question: is anyone surprised? It is nothing less than what I figured Jon Gruden would be like.

    Honest question: is anyone surprised? It is nothing less than what I figured Jon Gruden would be like.

    1 vote
    1. Kenny
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      That was my response.

      That was my response.

      2 votes