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About the "ten thousand hours of practice to become an expert" rule

Expertise researcher Anders Ericsson on why the popular "ten thousand hours of practice to become an expert" rule mischaracterizes his research:

No, the ten-thousand-hour rule isn't really a rule

Ralf Krampe, Clemens Tesch-Römer, and I published the results from our study of the Berlin violin students in 1993. These findings would go on to become a major part of the scientific literature on expert performers, and over the years a great many other researchers have referred to them. But it was actually not until 2008, with the publication of Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers, that our results attracted much attention from outside the scientific community. In his discussion of what it takes to become a top performer in a given field, Gladwell offered a catchy phrase: “the ten-thousand-hour rule.” According to this rule, it takes ten thousand hours of practice to become a master in most fields. We had indeed mentioned this figure in our report as the average number of hours that the best violinists had spent on solitary practice by the time they were twenty. Gladwell himself estimated that the Beatles had put in about ten thousand hours of practice while playing in Hamburg in the early 1960s and that Bill Gates put in roughly ten thousand hours of programming to develop his skills to a degree that allowed him to found and develop Microsoft. In general, Gladwell suggested, the same thing is true in essentially every field of human endeavor— people don’t become expert at something until they’ve put in about ten thousand hours of practice.

The rule is irresistibly appealing. It’s easy to remember, for one thing. It would’ve been far less effective if those violinists had put in, say, eleven thousand hours of practice by the time they were twenty. And it satisfies the human desire to discover a simple cause-and-effect relationship: just put in ten thousand hours of practice at anything, and you will become a master.

Unfortunately, this rule— which is the only thing that many people today know about the effects of practice— is wrong in several ways. (It is also correct in one important way, which I will get to shortly.) First, there is nothing special or magical about ten thousand hours. Gladwell could just as easily have mentioned the average amount of time the best violin students had practiced by the time they were eighteen— approximately seventy-four hundred hours— but he chose to refer to the total practice time they had accumulated by the time they were twenty, because it was a nice round number. And, either way, at eighteen or twenty, these students were nowhere near masters of the violin. They were very good, promising students who were likely headed to the top of their field, but they still had a long way to go when I studied them. Pianists who win international piano competitions tend to do so when they’re around thirty years old, and thus they’ve probably put in about twenty thousand to twenty-five thousand hours of practice by then; ten thousand hours is only halfway down that path.

And the number varies from field to field. Steve Faloon became the very best person in the world at memorizing strings of digits after only about two hundred hours of practice. I don’t know exactly how many hours of practice the best digit memorizers put in today before they get to the top, but it is likely well under ten thousand.

Second, the number of ten thousand hours at age twenty for the best violinists was only an average. Half of the ten violinists in that group hadn’t actually accumulated ten thousand hours at that age. Gladwell misunderstood this fact and incorrectly claimed that all the violinists in that group had accumulated over ten thousand hours.

Third, Gladwell didn’t distinguish between the deliberate practice that the musicians in our study did and any sort of activity that might be labeled “practice.” For example, one of his key examples of the ten-thousand-hour rule was the Beatles’ exhausting schedule of performances in Hamburg between 1960 and 1964. According to Gladwell, they played some twelve hundred times, each performance lasting as much as eight hours, which would have summed up to nearly ten thousand hours. Tune In, an exhaustive 2013 biography of the Beatles by Mark Lewisohn, calls this estimate into question and, after an extensive analysis, suggests that a more accurate total number is about eleven hundred hours of playing. So the Beatles became worldwide successes with far less than ten thousand hours of practice. More importantly, however, performing isn’t the same thing as practice. Yes, the Beatles almost certainly improved as a band after their many hours of playing in Hamburg, particularly because they tended to play the same songs night after night, which gave them the opportunity to get feedback— both from the crowd and themselves— on their performance and find ways to improve it. But an hour of playing in front of a crowd, where the focus is on delivering the best possible performance at the time, is not the same as an hour of focused, goal-driven practice that is designed to address certain weaknesses and make certain improvements— the sort of practice that was the key factor in explaining the abilities of the Berlin student violinists.

A closely related issue is that, as Lewisohn argues, the success of the Beatles was not due to how well they performed other people’s music but rather to their songwriting and creation of their own new music. Thus, if we are to explain the Beatles’ success in terms of practice, we need to identify the activities that allowed John Lennon and Paul McCartney— the group’s two primary songwriters— to develop and improve their skill at writing songs. All of the hours that the Beatles spent playing concerts in Hamburg would have done little, if anything, to help Lennon and McCartney become better songwriters, so we need to look elsewhere to explain the Beatles’ success.

This distinction between deliberate practice aimed at a particular goal and generic practice is crucial because not every type of practice leads to the improved ability that we saw in the music students or the ballet dancers. Generally speaking, deliberate practice and related types of practice that are designed to achieve a certain goal consist of individualized training activities— usually done alone— that are devised specifically to improve particular aspects of performance.

The final problem with the ten-thousand-hour rule is that, although Gladwell himself didn’t say this, many people have interpreted it as a promise that almost anyone can become an expert in a given field by putting in ten thousand hours of practice. But nothing in my study implied this. To show a result like this, I would have needed to put a collection of randomly chosen people through ten thousand hours of deliberate practice on the violin and then see how they turned out. All that our study had shown was that among the students who had become good enough to be admitted to the Berlin music academy, the best students had put in, on average, significantly more hours of solitary practice than the better students, and the better and best students had put in more solitary practice than the music-education students.

The question of whether anyone can become an expert performer in a given field by taking part in enough designed practice is still open, and I will offer some thoughts on this issue in the next chapter. But there was nothing in the original study to suggest that it was so.

Gladwell did get one thing right, and it is worth repeating because it’s crucial: becoming accomplished in any field in which there is a well-established history of people working to become experts requires a tremendous amount of effort exerted over many years. It may not require exactly ten thousand hours, but it will take a lot.

We have seen this in chess and the violin, but research has shown something similar in field after field. Authors and poets have usually been writing for more than a decade before they produce their best work, and it is generally a decade or more between a scientist’s first publication and his or her most important publication— and this is in addition to the years of study before that first published research. A study of musical composers by the psychologist John R. Hayes found that it takes an average of twenty years from the time a person starts studying music until he or she composes a truly excellent piece of music, and it is generally never less than ten years. Gladwell’s ten-thousand-hour rule captures this fundamental truth— that in many areas of human endeavor it takes many, many years of practice to become one of the best in the world— in a forceful, memorable way, and that’s a good thing.

On the other hand, emphasizing what it takes to become one of the best in the world in such competitive fields as music, chess, or academic research leads us to overlook what I believe to be the more important lesson from our study of the violin students. When we say that it takes ten thousand— or however many— hours to become really good at something, we put the focus on the daunting nature of the task. While some may take this as a challenge— as if to say, “All I have to do is spend ten thousand hours working on this, and I’ll be one of the best in the world!”— many will see it as a stop sign: “Why should I even try if it’s going to take me ten thousand hours to get really good?” As Dogbert observed in one Dilbert comic strip, “I would think a willingness to practice the same thing for ten thousand hours is a mental disorder.”

But I see the core message as something else altogether: In pretty much any area of human endeavor, people have a tremendous capacity to improve their performance, as long as they train in the right way. If you practice something for a few hundred hours, you will almost certainly see great improvement— think of what two hundred hours of practice brought Steve Faloon— but you have only scratched the surface. You can keep going and going and going, getting better and better and better. How much you improve is up to you.

This puts the ten-thousand-hour rule in a completely different light: The reason that you must put in ten thousand or more hours of practice to become one of the world’s best violinists or chess players or golfers is that the people you are being compared to or competing with have themselves put in ten thousand or more hours of practice. There is no point at which performance maxes out and additional practice does not lead to further improvement. So, yes, if you wish to become one of the best in the world in one of these highly competitive fields, you will need to put in thousands and thousands of hours of hard, focused work just to have a chance of equaling all of those others who have chosen to put in the same sort of work.

One way to think about this is simply as a reflection of the fact that, to date, we have found no limitations to the improvements that can be made with particular types of practice. As training techniques are improved and new heights of achievement are discovered, people in every area of human endeavor are constantly finding ways to get better, to raise the bar on what was thought to be possible, and there is no sign that this will stop. The horizons of human potential are expanding with each new generation.

-- Ericsson, Anders; Pool, Robert. Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise (p. 109-114). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.

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  1. [2]
    BashCrandiboot
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    Reminds me of this article that I go back and read from time to time.

    Reminds me of this article that I go back and read from time to time.

    When you venture off to the golf range to hit a bucket of balls what you’re really doing is having fun. You’re not getting better.

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    1. ItsMe
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      Hence the phrase "Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect"

      Hence the phrase "Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect"

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    OilyDog
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    I'm like 5000-ish hours into drawing and painting. However very little deliberate practice, which I think doesn't hurt too much in my case. But after reading this, it's funny how much influence...

    I'm like 5000-ish hours into drawing and painting. However very little deliberate practice, which I think doesn't hurt too much in my case.

    But after reading this, it's funny how much influence this number had over me the last years. I used to plan out how many hours of painting a day I'd have to do to reach this goal by 30. I know it's kind of meaningless but the 10000 is really stuck somewhere in my head. Good article.

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    1. aethicglass
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      I kinda follow it as a vague goal. I don't expect a medal or to suddenly attain enlightenment, but I think it's just a nice appealing number to strive towards in an otherwise crowded yet...

      I kinda follow it as a vague goal. I don't expect a medal or to suddenly attain enlightenment, but I think it's just a nice appealing number to strive towards in an otherwise crowded yet featureless sea.

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    aethicglass
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    I've put in roughly 6,000 hours of glassblowing and I definitely don't feel more than halfway toward what I would consider "mastery". There are just too many techniques, too many materials...

    I've put in roughly 6,000 hours of glassblowing and I definitely don't feel more than halfway toward what I would consider "mastery". There are just too many techniques, too many materials (different colors behave differently), too many styles, designs, types of workflow. It's what drew me to it in the first place. It's a bottomless pit of things to learn. Maybe I should just loosen up my definition of "mastery" in this case.

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      frickindeal
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      I'd consider that an art, and it's very difficult to ever say you've "mastered" anything to do with creating art. There are very, very few musicians in the world who are considered masters of...

      I'd consider that an art, and it's very difficult to ever say you've "mastered" anything to do with creating art. There are very, very few musicians in the world who are considered masters of their instruments, and most of them would never call themselves that. The finest musicians will generally tell you they have a lot to learn and are always learning more. I choose to believe you never truly master anything that involves creativity.

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        aethicglass
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        I like this a lot. In a fundamental way, creativity requires some degree of innovation, whether in skill progression, concept, expression, or inspiration. It's a constant drive to improve....

        I choose to believe you never truly master anything that involves creativity.

        I like this a lot. In a fundamental way, creativity requires some degree of innovation, whether in skill progression, concept, expression, or inspiration. It's a constant drive to improve. Perfecting the reproduction of the same form is what I consider "production". It might hone skills in a way that constant variety doesn't, but the plateau of diminishing returns happens much sooner in production than in creation.

        I'd consider that an art

        It's funny because I've gotten in this argument time and time again with other glassblowers. I have a fairly wide definition of art, but I basically feel that if something is done with the intent of expression it can qualify. Other glassblowers insist that the entire industry is a craft. But when I look at the type of work done by the people who this argument, it makes more sense. They tend to be masters of production who rarely branch out skillsets. But for them to argue that "because it's this way for me, so it must be for everyone" is a fairly ridiculous fallacy. There are definitely products I make that are craft without feeling limited to that. I can still make art if I damn well like. Pieces may have more or less artistic "value", but that doesn't change intent.

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          frickindeal
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          I hadn't thought of "production" glassblowers. I suppose if you're just producing the same part(s), day after day, that's a craft, not really an art at that point, because it's more muscle memory...

          I hadn't thought of "production" glassblowers. I suppose if you're just producing the same part(s), day after day, that's a craft, not really an art at that point, because it's more muscle memory than anything terribly creative.

          But I've seen some beautiful one-of-a-kind blown glass that's definitely art. Hell, there are pieces in art galleries!

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          1. aethicglass
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            (Links are to IG. Self-promotion disclaimer: this is my own work, but I'm posting as examples for discussion, not for followers. Not currently taking orders anyways.) When I was doing glass full...

            (Links are to IG. Self-promotion disclaimer: this is my own work, but I'm posting as examples for discussion, not for followers. Not currently taking orders anyways.)

            When I was doing glass full time, it was almost entirely production. Same few designs over and over. I made thousands of those. Was actually kinda soul crushing. The shop I was working at paid me $8 a piece for one of those, while the cost to the end buyer was around $100 at peak popularity. Pretty much everyone involved in the supply chain got a bigger cut than me. Later on, I started doing stuff like this. It's less repetitive, more original design, but a lot of it is just mixing and matching techniques. There's creativity, but not much artistic value. I really like doing stuff like this because there's more opportunity for expression (in this case, facial expression). The last major piece I did about a year ago was supposed to be themed around Dark Souls, with each horn representing a different school of magic. It was a nightmare of a custom order. The back and forth with the client took about 5 months to sort out the details as he kept changing his mind or wanting things that were unrealistic for the budget (I actually lost money on that piece). Despite the amount of supposed symbolism that went into the piece, I personally feel like it's artistically shallow.

            And then there's work by folks like Yoshinori Kondo, Hamm, Eusheen, and John Kobuki to name a few. They are masters of some very difficult and intricate techniques. There is variety of form, but again, it's largely an exercise of creatively mixing and matching. But it's nearly impossible to look at some of their works without seeing some sort of intrinsic artistic value. It's something other than expression. To me, it seems like the beauty of perfection and mastery. But maybe there's something else to it too. Just not sure how to put my finger on it.

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    MotherIrony
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    So the next time someone says the 10,000 hour thing to you, what will be your quick response?

    So the next time someone says the 10,000 hour thing to you, what will be your quick response?

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    1. Vadsamoht
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      This was my stock reply before having read the OP (in order, depending on how much time I have), and will continue to be so: The 10k hours are hours of deliberate practice, not time spend sicking...

      This was my stock reply before having read the OP (in order, depending on how much time I have), and will continue to be so:

      • The 10k hours are hours of deliberate practice, not time spend sicking around or enjoying yourself. It's time when you're really pushing to expand your limits.

      • The actual 10k number was arrives at by interviewing various 'masters' and doing some hand-waving to reverse engineer the number from there. There is also no causative link proposed, just a statement that 'we looked at X people pretty good at a thing, and they'd all spend Y hours on it'. Indeed, many of the commonly-cited examples almost certainly do not actually fit the 10k rule. Combine that with the fact that 'mastery' is a vague term, chances are it's wrong.

      • The main benefit of this research is that is shows that people who are really good at things actually put in a ton of effort to get that good, and helps reframe the tedious discussions on the nature of 'talent' to either a slight bonus to base skill or (in my opinion, more likely) a slight multiplier to efforts.

      • 'Mastery' is a dumb concept to try to formalize like this in general anyway. In particular, different areas of application will have a different standard for 'mastery'. Spending 10k hours of study on tic-tac-toe won't make you a tic-tac-toe world champion because there's little to know overall, nor will 10k hours of improvement at chess be enough for exactly the opposite reason. Another example is to consider someone becoming a 'master' of a multi-disciplinary field - If I spend 10k hours on improvement in science, am I really a master of science if I've spread my time thinly across everything from the theoretical to the practical, and every field imaginable? Could I spend 5k hours in Physics, 5k in Chem, and then claim to be a master of science, which includes biology? That is to say, doesn't mastery of something imply (at least to some extent) mastery of all it's components?

      • A lot of the writing on this topic treats 'mastery' as some sort of ultimate level of achievement (as the term implies), when in reality you'd be just as accurate regarding the actual evidence if you were to substitute every instance of 'mastery' with 'pretty damn good at' because that's how the term is used. And then the conclusions become... not surprising at all.

      EDIT: I wrote this response before reading the OP properly, so I'm adding here two other points from the OP that I didn't cover (in case you just skimmed it), but add something useful to the discussion:

      ...there is nothing special or magical about ten thousand hours. Gladwell could just as easily have mentioned the average amount of time the best violin students had practiced by the time they were eighteen— approximately seventy-four hundred hours— but he chose to refer to the total practice time they had accumulated by the time they were twenty, because it was a nice round number. And, either way, at eighteen or twenty, these students were nowhere near masters of the violin. They were very good, promising students who were likely headed to the top of their field, but they still had a long way to go when I studied them. Pianists who win international piano competitions tend to do so when they’re around thirty years old, and thus they’ve probably put in about twenty thousand to twenty-five thousand hours of practice by then; ten thousand hours is only halfway down that path.

      I see the core message as something else altogether: In pretty much any area of human endeavor, people have a tremendous capacity to improve their performance, as long as they train in the right way. If you practice something for a few hundred hours, you will almost certainly see great improvement— think of what two hundred hours of practice brought Steve Faloon— but you have only scratched the surface. You can keep going and going and going, getting better and better and better. How much you improve is up to you.

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  5. Gaywallet
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    There's a great freakonomics episode on this.

    There's a great freakonomics episode on this.

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