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No place to hide - UK campaign against end-to-end encryption

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  1. [3]
    nukeman
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    The arguments against E2EE seem to occur the most in Britain and the former “white Dominions”, notably Australia. Restrictive laws/proposals for internet filters and against sexual content seem to...

    The arguments against E2EE seem to occur the most in Britain and the former “white Dominions”, notably Australia. Restrictive laws/proposals for internet filters and against sexual content seem to be stronger in those countries. Does this have to do with the historically paternalist tendencies of Britain?

    6 votes
    1. skybrian
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      We could look at which countries banned either WhatsApp or Signal. That seems to be China, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Cuba, Uzbekistan, Egypt, Oman. (I didn't...

      We could look at which countries banned either WhatsApp or Signal. That seems to be China, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Cuba, Uzbekistan, Egypt, Oman.

      (I didn't verify this. I just did a search and picked any names listed.)

      5 votes
    2. petrichor
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      I assume you're talking about the Western world here, because heavy internet snooping and filtration is par for the course in the Middle East and Asia in particular (notably not Japan). But yeah,...

      I assume you're talking about the Western world here, because heavy internet snooping and filtration is par for the course in the Middle East and Asia in particular (notably not Japan). But yeah, in that sense, it does seem like British and British-colonized countries are a little bit odd compared to Western Europe (+ Canada).

      It might be a media bias. It's hard to follow news from other countries where you don't speak the language. It also might be an inertia factor. We hear less about already-established systems. And it totally could be the paternalist tendencies, I absolutely see where you're coming from there - and for the States, these kind of clash and cancel out against the libertarian tendencies.

      I personally think an argument could be made for Protestantism being the underlying historical factor. But I also really have nothing to back this up aside from vague correlation and personal experiences with churches and adherents.

      4 votes
  2. [2]
    space_cowboy
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    Gross.

    Gross.

    8 votes
    1. cfabbro
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      https://docs.tildes.net/philosophy/content#in-depth-content-primarily-text-based-is-the-most-important Whereas your comment = https://docs.tildes.net/instructions/commenting-on-tildes#noise-label...

      https://docs.tildes.net/philosophy/content#in-depth-content-primarily-text-based-is-the-most-important

      In-depth content (primarily text-based) is the most important

      This includes linking to articles on other sites, posting text topics on Tildes itself, and the comment discussions. In general, any changes to the site that will cause "shallower" content to gain an advantage should be considered very carefully.

      Whereas your comment = https://docs.tildes.net/instructions/commenting-on-tildes#noise-label

      And IMO everyone who voted on your comment needs to think hard about whether that is really the sort of thing they want to see become more prevalent here. It's "fine" when it's only one or two comment like this, but at scale, if tolerated, the comments section ends up looking like reddit's, where high-quality comments (which take time to write/read, and consideration before voting on), are buried under a pile of low-effort garbage like this.

      7 votes