For what it's worth, I've owned my 13in Framework for about a year now. To be fair, I've never really had a portable laptop for personal use before, so I don't have a lot of experience with the...
For what it's worth, I've owned my 13in Framework for about a year now. To be fair, I've never really had a portable laptop for personal use before, so I don't have a lot of experience with the competition. I was not in the market for a 16 inch at the time, but seeing all of the features of this one, I'm having second thoughts. Some notes about my experience (in no particular order):
My main decision was factored around out-of-the-box Linux support.
DIY really just means popping in individual components like they're legos. It was super simple by design and I had my computer up-and-running in about 15-20 minutes.
Battery life for me has averaged around 6 hours of continuous use. Not great, but I've yet to need more personally.
The storage expansion cards basically act as portable drives that you can just pop right into your computer without having any dangling usb enclosures.
There's a thriving expansion card market for people that make their own 3d-printed components.
The ethernet expansion card is perfect to have around when I need to hardwire into the internet (has only really happened a couple of times with troubleshooting network issues, but was still handy).
As soon as they give the Framework a 'mouse nipple' (what are those things actually called?) I'll be first in line to buy one. I really think my Thinkpad has ruined me, because now I can never...
As soon as they give the Framework a 'mouse nipple' (what are those things actually called?) I'll be first in line to buy one. I really think my Thinkpad has ruined me, because now I can never accept anything other than the best ;)
Also, does anyone know if you can get one with a CD/DVD drive? It doesn't seen like it's an option, which is a bit of a bummer.
The most common name is TrackPoint from IBM / Lenovo's machines, but there's a lot of different names. Wikipedia has a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick
'mouse nipple' (what are those things actually called?)
I'm not in the market for a laptop any time soon. But this 16-inch Framework is looking cool - first with the DIY-able keyboard, next with these snap-on batteries: it's very much gearing up to be...
I'm not in the market for a laptop any time soon. But this 16-inch Framework is looking cool - first with the DIY-able keyboard, next with these snap-on batteries: it's very much gearing up to be a spiritual successor to the ThinkPad line. I wonder what the used market will look like in the far future.
The only other laptops in this customizable vein that I know of is the MNT series: which is somewhat targeted towards hobbyist systems people with money to spare. (I guess the Frameworks are around the same price - but they're usable as a daily driver.) Does anyone know of similar projects, commercial or individual?
I concur with this. I have a System76 Lemur Pro (Clevo) and build quality is garbage. It has other problems, such as the secondary NVME drive doesn’t wake back up from sleep and I’ve read about...
I concur with this. I have a System76 Lemur Pro (Clevo) and build quality is garbage. It has other problems, such as the secondary NVME drive doesn’t wake back up from sleep and I’ve read about swollen battery issues. If you’re in the market for a Linux laptop, don’t buy this one. Luckily for me, my Lemur Pro is a backup machine to my HP Dev One, which is a far nicer laptop.
I noticed on the website that the AMD models are marked as shipping in Q4 whereas the Intel models are marked as shipping in July. This implies that the AMD model is under much higher demand (but...
I noticed on the website that the AMD models are marked as shipping in Q4 whereas the Intel models are marked as shipping in July. This implies that the AMD model is under much higher demand (but perhaps there were just more Intel units available in the first place). If that is the case then can someone please explain why?
As someone that bought their Framework a year ago and followed /r/framework fairly closely, AMD and a 16 inch screen were BY FAR the most requested features. Probably the biggest complaint people...
As someone that bought their Framework a year ago and followed /r/framework fairly closely, AMD and a 16 inch screen were BY FAR the most requested features. Probably the biggest complaint people have had about Framework is the battery life. The consensus is that benchmarks for the AMD chip have a slight edge over the Intel chip and is more power efficient, leading to a better battery life.
Framework is too expensive for me. Not that I wouldn't spend the money, but I won't soend them on a thing that I don't need right now. If I was looking for a notebook, Framework would be a no...
Framework is too expensive for me. Not that I wouldn't spend the money, but I won't soend them on a thing that I don't need right now.
If I was looking for a notebook, Framework would be a no brainer for me. I love the idea and love the product as well. This is the way electronics should be moving in, not like other manufacturers (I'm looking at you Apple).
This looks amazing but I can't tell how quick the swapping is. Is this designed to be set up at home and then that's just how it's designed for awhile? Or can I keep the modular screen or the...
This looks amazing but I can't tell how quick the swapping is. Is this designed to be set up at home and then that's just how it's designed for awhile? Or can I keep the modular screen or the numpad in my bag and hotswap on the fly? Does it require tools?
For what it's worth, I've owned my 13in Framework for about a year now. To be fair, I've never really had a portable laptop for personal use before, so I don't have a lot of experience with the competition. I was not in the market for a 16 inch at the time, but seeing all of the features of this one, I'm having second thoughts. Some notes about my experience (in no particular order):
As soon as they give the Framework a 'mouse nipple' (what are those things actually called?) I'll be first in line to buy one. I really think my Thinkpad has ruined me, because now I can never accept anything other than the best ;)
Also, does anyone know if you can get one with a CD/DVD drive? It doesn't seen like it's an option, which is a bit of a bummer.
The most common name is TrackPoint from IBM / Lenovo's machines, but there's a lot of different names. Wikipedia has a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick
What are those things actually called?
There really is an xkcd for everything, huh.
Is XKCD just one really dedicated dude or is it a team of people
Cool to know
Clittermouse?
I'm not in the market for a laptop any time soon. But this 16-inch Framework is looking cool - first with the DIY-able keyboard, next with these snap-on batteries: it's very much gearing up to be a spiritual successor to the ThinkPad line. I wonder what the used market will look like in the far future.
The only other laptops in this customizable vein that I know of is the MNT series: which is somewhat targeted towards hobbyist systems people with money to spare. (I guess the Frameworks are around the same price - but they're usable as a daily driver.) Does anyone know of similar projects, commercial or individual?
I concur with this. I have a System76 Lemur Pro (Clevo) and build quality is garbage. It has other problems, such as the secondary NVME drive doesn’t wake back up from sleep and I’ve read about swollen battery issues. If you’re in the market for a Linux laptop, don’t buy this one. Luckily for me, my Lemur Pro is a backup machine to my HP Dev One, which is a far nicer laptop.
I noticed on the website that the AMD models are marked as shipping in Q4 whereas the Intel models are marked as shipping in July. This implies that the AMD model is under much higher demand (but perhaps there were just more Intel units available in the first place). If that is the case then can someone please explain why?
As someone that bought their Framework a year ago and followed /r/framework fairly closely, AMD and a 16 inch screen were BY FAR the most requested features. Probably the biggest complaint people have had about Framework is the battery life. The consensus is that benchmarks for the AMD chip have a slight edge over the Intel chip and is more power efficient, leading to a better battery life.
Framework is too expensive for me. Not that I wouldn't spend the money, but I won't soend them on a thing that I don't need right now.
If I was looking for a notebook, Framework would be a no brainer for me. I love the idea and love the product as well. This is the way electronics should be moving in, not like other manufacturers (I'm looking at you Apple).
This looks amazing but I can't tell how quick the swapping is. Is this designed to be set up at home and then that's just how it's designed for awhile? Or can I keep the modular screen or the numpad in my bag and hotswap on the fly? Does it require tools?
Either way, cool as hell.