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Microsoft bundling practices focus of US federal antitrust probe

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    The Federal Trade Commission is investigating Microsoft in a wide-ranging probe that will examine whether the company’s business practices have run afoul of antitrust laws, according to people familiar with the matter. In recent weeks, FTC attorneys have been conducting interviews and setting up meetings with Microsoft competitors.

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    TurtleCracker
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    In my opinion there are only two reasons companies use Microsoft Teams: They are all in on Microsoft and only use Windows, so it's easier from an IT/Management perspective It's bundled with O365...

    In my opinion there are only two reasons companies use Microsoft Teams:

    • They are all in on Microsoft and only use Windows, so it's easier from an IT/Management perspective
    • It's bundled with O365 and essentially 'free'

    Pretty much every competitor to Teams is simply better on anything besides price.

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      Eji1700
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      Teams as a centralized application launcher is quite nice. Being able to tell your entire org that whatever report/chat/project/file/meeting/etc is "in teams" is something I'm not aware of any...

      Teams as a centralized application launcher is quite nice. Being able to tell your entire org that whatever report/chat/project/file/meeting/etc is "in teams" is something I'm not aware of any other software handling.

      We do however use O365 and powerbi (which does seem quite a bit better than tableau for smaller business needs). The few cases where we go outside the MS suite it's been decently simple to still tie the functionality into teams.

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        TurtleCracker
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        I think that falls more into the "all in" category. I find that attitude generally leads to counter productive behaviors. Meetings should generate artifacts that live in a more permanent place...

        I think that falls more into the "all in" category. I find that attitude generally leads to counter productive behaviors. Meetings should generate artifacts that live in a more permanent place with better discoverability (Confluence, Jira, etc..). I think messaging and meetings should generally be regarded as ephemeral / temporary.

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          But that's kinda the point. Your average small buisness office worker who's in a non tech department is probably not going to be comfortable with jira/confluence/whatever. Hell many aren't...

          But that's kinda the point.

          Your average small buisness office worker who's in a non tech department is probably not going to be comfortable with jira/confluence/whatever. Hell many aren't comfortable with different folders let alone programs.

          For a much smaller environment with lower pay it's very easy to say "everything you will ever need is here, and everything links through there" You still get ephemeral messaging/meetings, but if you want something to stick it winds up in one drive/planner/wiki/sharepoint/whatever.

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    BeanBurrito
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    I'm waiting for the comments defending Microsoft's practice of bundling software and why it may be irrational for people to want it otherwise. The authors will likely claim they don't like the...

    I'm waiting for the comments defending Microsoft's practice of bundling software and why it may be irrational for people to want it otherwise. The authors will likely claim they don't like the reality of it either, but problems would be caused if Microsoft was forced to stop.

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      It really is great from a current enterprise perspective, but from an anti-trust perspective, the way they handle it is definitely problematic. It was great when we realized that our normal O365...

      It really is great from a current enterprise perspective, but from an anti-trust perspective, the way they handle it is definitely problematic. It was great when we realized that our normal O365 licenses enabled us to cut a bunch of other contracts that were just wasted money when we could get a better product for free.

      That said, they definitely engaged in predatory practices to lock us into these contracts and prevent other companies from getting them.

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