Now that we all piled on about the links, I should say something about the actual topic. ;) It's nice to have something other than Samsung Frame and other display techonologies entering the mix. I...
Now that we all piled on about the links, I should say something about the actual topic. ;)
It's nice to have something other than Samsung Frame and other display techonologies entering the mix. I definitely feel overwhelmed by display time, so a display that is more paperlike in appearance and its effects on our eyes is welcome.
For accessibility and overall readability, hyperlinks should be part of the text, not after the statement. As one example, "Marques Brownlee tested" would be better than putting the link after the...
For accessibility and overall readability, hyperlinks should be part of the text, not after the statement. As one example, "Marques Brownlee tested" would be better than putting the link after the sentence.
Alternatively, you could go Wikipedia-style and put all the references at the bottom. That's not as web native, but it keeps the post flowing.
Oh, I see. I started writing links that way to keep text clean and, at the same time, make clear where (to what domains) they leave the reader. I try to be very conscious about accessibility, but...
Oh, I see. I started writing links that way to keep text clean and, at the same time, make clear where (to what domains) they leave the reader.
I try to be very conscious about accessibility, but I confess I didn't think about it this time. Are you aware if this style is difficult to read/parse for blind people?
I understand. The accessibility issue is that the hyperlink text acts as a description of what will be found at the link. People who use screen readers will often tab through the links, so instead...
I understand. The accessibility issue is that the hyperlink text acts as a description of what will be found at the link. People who use screen readers will often tab through the links, so instead of hearing "Marques Brownlee tested", they may hear "h-t-t-p-s-colon-slash-slash..."
This is also why it's not a good practice to make the text something like "click here" or "learn more".
To add on top of your observation, the accessibility consultants Ive worked with recommend placing text links at the end of sentences (or clauses) when possible. This way, if using a screenreader,...
To add on top of your observation, the accessibility consultants Ive worked with recommend placing text links at the end of sentences (or clauses) when possible. This way, if using a screenreader, the link identifier is read out at the end of the sentence, instead of breaking up the sentence in the middle, making it less intrusive and giving more context.
+1 to the readability angle. The / example.com structure breaks visual continuity and I can't read your article as a continuous text anymore, instead seeing paragraphs as individual blocks. That...
+1 to the readability angle. The / example.com structure breaks visual continuity and I can't read your article as a continuous text anymore, instead seeing paragraphs as individual blocks. That style is also somewhat common when copying verbatim a tweet and then directly linking to the tweet, which also confuses my brain.
I would recommend just hyperlinking like the internet norm. If a user needs to see where the link leads to, they can hover over a link on desktop or long-press on mobile. They'll be fine; internet users have survived for this long already with that convention.
It feels like the worst of all worlds. It's noisier than a simple HTML link on the cited text, it still involves an HTML link, it's more disruptive than a footnote. It doesn't indicate positioning...
It feels like the worst of all worlds. It's noisier than a simple HTML link on the cited text, it still involves an HTML link, it's more disruptive than a footnote. It doesn't indicate positioning well.
I can't think of a worse way to cite something. I can understand people who prefer some kind of footnote instead of direct links, but idk what the point of this is.
Assuming you're the author, ending each paragraph of combined opinion and citations with a single link muddles the line between your thoughts and the thing you're quoting. It leaves me unclear...
Assuming you're the author, ending each paragraph of combined opinion and citations with a single link muddles the line between your thoughts and the thing you're quoting. It leaves me unclear what of the text is yours and what isn't, and deprives the link of its proper context.
I'm not the commenter you're replying to, and I don't think my reaction was quite as extreme, but I found the citation format here (a slash followed by links at the end of each paragraph) to be a...
I'm not the commenter you're replying to, and I don't think my reaction was quite as extreme, but I found the citation format here (a slash followed by links at the end of each paragraph) to be a little distracting too. I'm much more used to standard numerical or parenthetical citations, so it's a bit easier to read past those. With the slashes my brain did a little "is this the end of the article? oh wait, there's more" dance after each paragraph.
Now that we all piled on about the links, I should say something about the actual topic. ;)
It's nice to have something other than Samsung Frame and other display techonologies entering the mix. I definitely feel overwhelmed by display time, so a display that is more paperlike in appearance and its effects on our eyes is welcome.
I was about to say that "Rodrigo" is a common Brazilian name. Lo and behold, you're Brazilian too. E aí, beleza? ;)
É nóis! (“it's us!”, for those who don't speak Portuguese 😁)
This guy seems to have found the single most irritating style of citation known to mankind. It made reading this incredibly difficult.
Can you elaborate, please?
For accessibility and overall readability, hyperlinks should be part of the text, not after the statement. As one example, "Marques Brownlee tested" would be better than putting the link after the sentence.
Alternatively, you could go Wikipedia-style and put all the references at the bottom. That's not as web native, but it keeps the post flowing.
Oh, I see. I started writing links that way to keep text clean and, at the same time, make clear where (to what domains) they leave the reader.
I try to be very conscious about accessibility, but I confess I didn't think about it this time. Are you aware if this style is difficult to read/parse for blind people?
I understand. The accessibility issue is that the hyperlink text acts as a description of what will be found at the link. People who use screen readers will often tab through the links, so instead of hearing "Marques Brownlee tested", they may hear "h-t-t-p-s-colon-slash-slash..."
This is also why it's not a good practice to make the text something like "click here" or "learn more".
Makes total sense, @scojjac.
I just updated the post to use regular, wrapped in actual text links. Thanks for all your inputs!
To add on top of your observation, the accessibility consultants Ive worked with recommend placing text links at the end of sentences (or clauses) when possible. This way, if using a screenreader, the link identifier is read out at the end of the sentence, instead of breaking up the sentence in the middle, making it less intrusive and giving more context.
+1 to the readability angle. The
/ example.com
structure breaks visual continuity and I can't read your article as a continuous text anymore, instead seeing paragraphs as individual blocks. That style is also somewhat common when copying verbatim a tweet and then directly linking to the tweet, which also confuses my brain.I would recommend just hyperlinking like the internet norm. If a user needs to see where the link leads to, they can hover over a link on desktop or long-press on mobile. They'll be fine; internet users have survived for this long already with that convention.
It feels like the worst of all worlds. It's noisier than a simple HTML link on the cited text, it still involves an HTML link, it's more disruptive than a footnote. It doesn't indicate positioning well.
I can't think of a worse way to cite something. I can understand people who prefer some kind of footnote instead of direct links, but idk what the point of this is.
Assuming you're the author, ending each paragraph of combined opinion and citations with a single link muddles the line between your thoughts and the thing you're quoting. It leaves me unclear what of the text is yours and what isn't, and deprives the link of its proper context.
I'm not the OP, but that's my take.
In this regard, anything quoted “ipsis litteris” is between… quotes.
I'm not the commenter you're replying to, and I don't think my reaction was quite as extreme, but I found the citation format here (a slash followed by links at the end of each paragraph) to be a little distracting too. I'm much more used to standard numerical or parenthetical citations, so it's a bit easier to read past those. With the slashes my brain did a little "is this the end of the article? oh wait, there's more" dance after each paragraph.