So if I'm interpreting this right, federal depository libraries aren't a direct part/property of the US government, but are just authorized to store and provide access to official government...
So if I'm interpreting this right, federal depository libraries aren't a direct part/property of the US government, but are just authorized to store and provide access to official government documents. So this shouldn't give the US government direct control over everything that the Internet Archive hosts, which was my initial concern at that headline. Not because the headline is misleading, but just because I had no clue what "official US federal documents library" really meant and entailed.
That is correct. My college library was a federal depository (I got to deal with shuffling around disintegrating, 100+-year-old congressional records as a work-study student), and we sure were not...
That is correct. My college library was a federal depository (I got to deal with shuffling around disintegrating, 100+-year-old congressional records as a work-study student), and we sure were not a branch of nor under the thumb of the federal government.
By my very limited understanding, the intent of the program is to promote public access to documents more than archival or anything else.
Actually, no. His understanding seems to be "Everything. Period. Until someone proves me wrong." Not sure I even disagree with his attitude, anymore, since practically every org in the country,...
Actually, no. His understanding seems to be "Everything. Period. Until someone proves me wrong."
Not sure I even disagree with his attitude, anymore, since practically every org in the country, right up to and including Congress, seems content to abdicate their authority to him.
Robert Reich had a great interview on the Daily this weekend calling him the symptom not the cause of America's abandonment of its morals. Not a new thought, but he said it well.
Robert Reich had a great interview on the Daily this weekend calling him the symptom not the cause of America's abandonment of its morals.
This is a big reason I’m so worried about what happens next - the only issue that’s even vaguely managing to stick to Trump is the Epstein files; the cruel, unhinged, and outright evil...
This is a big reason I’m so worried about what happens next - the only issue that’s even vaguely managing to stick to Trump is the Epstein files; the cruel, unhinged, and outright evil policymaking is still being celebrated by his supporters.
If Trump becomes untenable for whatever reason: his health, the evidence of child abuse, and/or his loss of support from powerful backers like Murdoch, the torch just passes to Vance and the supporters cheer while the rest of society has to deal with a much younger and slightly more competent fascist.
Agreed, though I think it's important not to underestimate the cult of personality that brings people to Trump. Vance is bad too, but I'd argue that he doesn't have the charisma, Teflon coating or...
Agreed, though I think it's important not to underestimate the cult of personality that brings people to Trump. Vance is bad too, but I'd argue that he doesn't have the charisma, Teflon coating or staying power that Trump does.
He may be towing the line, but for many the name Vance means the same as Pence (ie: not Trump)
I used to think this too, and if the courts had done their job prior to this year I think the support probably would have followed and fizzled out with Trump himself being taken off the ballot,...
I used to think this too, and if the courts had done their job prior to this year I think the support probably would have followed and fizzled out with Trump himself being taken off the ballot, but seeing people taking selfies and buying merch for a prison camp tells me that his whole “movement” is growing to become self sustaining. It’s hard to imagine hatred that deep just dissipating.
I don’t think people would rally to Vance (or whoever) over Trump while he’s still able to call the shots, but I can see them treating whoever comes next as an imperfect prophet of their great leader once he’s out of the picture.
But I hope I’m wrong, and with the level of infighting we’re seeing even under Trump’s “strong” leadership maybe the whole edifice will just splinter without that focus holding it together.
I don't disagree, though it's worth pointing out (without calling the Trump votership stupid) that politics at that level has been an intellectual class game for as long as I can remember, and...
I don't disagree, though it's worth pointing out (without calling the Trump votership stupid) that politics at that level has been an intellectual class game for as long as I can remember, and Vance is very much that kind of person. He's educated and a realist (albeit a cynical one), and I don't think he's as likely to take the big, wild and ridiculous swings at everything from trade to burning liberal institutions to the ground.
Back to the voter, I'd say that it's Trump's haymakers that have them the most riled up, and I don't think that the whole WWE on-stage monologue style of politics isn't likely to stick around with Vance.
So long as people have food to eat and can pay their bills, politics will get boring again and half of the people who voted because politics now resembled wrestling will disappear. It won't look boring like it did before Trump, but it'll settle nonetheless.
So if I'm interpreting this right, federal depository libraries aren't a direct part/property of the US government, but are just authorized to store and provide access to official government documents. So this shouldn't give the US government direct control over everything that the Internet Archive hosts, which was my initial concern at that headline. Not because the headline is misleading, but just because I had no clue what "official US federal documents library" really meant and entailed.
That is correct. My college library was a federal depository (I got to deal with shuffling around disintegrating, 100+-year-old congressional records as a work-study student), and we sure were not a branch of nor under the thumb of the federal government.
By my very limited understanding, the intent of the program is to promote public access to documents more than archival or anything else.
I really, really hope there are non-U.S. mirrors in a lot of places.
This.
This may not make the IA part of the Federal Govt, but Trump has a fuzzy understanding (at best) of what he actually has authority over.
By fuzzy, do you mean "everything the light touches?"
Actually, no. His understanding seems to be "Everything. Period. Until someone proves me wrong."
Not sure I even disagree with his attitude, anymore, since practically every org in the country, right up to and including Congress, seems content to abdicate their authority to him.
Robert Reich had a great interview on the Daily this weekend calling him the symptom not the cause of America's abandonment of its morals.
Not a new thought, but he said it well.
This is a big reason I’m so worried about what happens next - the only issue that’s even vaguely managing to stick to Trump is the Epstein files; the cruel, unhinged, and outright evil policymaking is still being celebrated by his supporters.
If Trump becomes untenable for whatever reason: his health, the evidence of child abuse, and/or his loss of support from powerful backers like Murdoch, the torch just passes to Vance and the supporters cheer while the rest of society has to deal with a much younger and slightly more competent fascist.
Agreed, though I think it's important not to underestimate the cult of personality that brings people to Trump. Vance is bad too, but I'd argue that he doesn't have the charisma, Teflon coating or staying power that Trump does.
He may be towing the line, but for many the name Vance means the same as Pence (ie: not Trump)
I used to think this too, and if the courts had done their job prior to this year I think the support probably would have followed and fizzled out with Trump himself being taken off the ballot, but seeing people taking selfies and buying merch for a prison camp tells me that his whole “movement” is growing to become self sustaining. It’s hard to imagine hatred that deep just dissipating.
I don’t think people would rally to Vance (or whoever) over Trump while he’s still able to call the shots, but I can see them treating whoever comes next as an imperfect prophet of their great leader once he’s out of the picture.
But I hope I’m wrong, and with the level of infighting we’re seeing even under Trump’s “strong” leadership maybe the whole edifice will just splinter without that focus holding it together.
I don't disagree, though it's worth pointing out (without calling the Trump votership stupid) that politics at that level has been an intellectual class game for as long as I can remember, and Vance is very much that kind of person. He's educated and a realist (albeit a cynical one), and I don't think he's as likely to take the big, wild and ridiculous swings at everything from trade to burning liberal institutions to the ground.
Back to the voter, I'd say that it's Trump's haymakers that have them the most riled up, and I don't think that the whole WWE on-stage monologue style of politics isn't likely to stick around with Vance.
So long as people have food to eat and can pay their bills, politics will get boring again and half of the people who voted because politics now resembled wrestling will disappear. It won't look boring like it did before Trump, but it'll settle nonetheless.
Trump has never been the problem. The roughly half of America that voted for him (twice?!!?) ... There's your trouble.