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Help me de-Google / decentralize / move away from big tech

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    F13
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    You simply cannot match Google's feature set with nearly any product for free. That's because you are paying Google, and others are paying them for your eyeballs, too. Unfortunately, if you want...

    You simply cannot match Google's feature set with nearly any product for free. That's because you are paying Google, and others are paying them for your eyeballs, too.

    Unfortunately, if you want to remove yourself from subsidized services, you should expect to pay for it.

    9 votes
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        Adys
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        But you’re also saying no self hosting, and for some of the alternatives you’re considering just keep using Google but add backups. And you’re price sensitive. If I were you I would take the time...

        But you’re also saying no self hosting, and for some of the alternatives you’re considering just keep using Google but add backups. And you’re price sensitive.

        If I were you I would take the time to ask myself why I’m doing this, what the goals I’m trying to achieve actually are. There’s various reasons why you might want to de-Google — I’m sure they’ve all nice which ones matter to you? For example: If this is a privacy issue then you’re gonna have to consider self hosting because Google is actually the better of the lot in most cases.

        5 votes
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            Adys
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            So with that, it’s clearer and I encourage you to set up a Google takeout backup on the regular. Keep in mind that such a backup is much more likely to die than your Google account but if you’re...

            So with that, it’s clearer and I encourage you to set up a Google takeout backup on the regular.

            Keep in mind that such a backup is much more likely to die than your Google account but if you’re using the free version, then you can indeed be at risk of getting your account banned for example.

            The password manager is definitely the one I recommend investing time into tho. Keepass is okay but maybe try out Bitwarden.

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              1. Adys
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                Who of the two of you has the bigger incentives, experience and means to keep your data around, backed up, secure and working: You or Google?

                Who of the two of you has the bigger incentives, experience and means to keep your data around, backed up, secure and working: You or Google?

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  2. snake_case
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    This is kinda crazy, why don’t you just pretend its 1999? I only ever use any of this stuff for work, and my work doesn’t belong to me anyway it belongs to the company. In my reality when we wanna...

    This is kinda crazy, why don’t you just pretend its 1999?

    I only ever use any of this stuff for work, and my work doesn’t belong to me anyway it belongs to the company.

    In my reality when we wanna share a file we put it on a flash drive. We write down plans on a dry erase board calendar. Write our notes on sticky notes. My files aren’t shared. My notes aren’t shared. My pictures are not shared. I wanna show a pic to someone? I text them. I back up everything manually to an external hdd like once every couple months just like I have been doing since I was like 15.

    You wanna not use all this junk? Live like its the old days. Life was slower and more manageable then. Do life on paper.

    Also duckduckgo ain’t too bad.

    6 votes
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      vord
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      Kagi, hands down. Sadly it's paid, but if you search as frequently as I do, it will pay dividends. I'd skip my gas bill a few months over ditching Kagi. $5 a month covers an awful lot of searches.

      Kagi, hands down. Sadly it's paid, but if you search as frequently as I do, it will pay dividends. I'd skip my gas bill a few months over ditching Kagi.

      $5 a month covers an awful lot of searches.

      6 votes
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        1. vord
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          If you're looking to buy something online, if you lower Amazon's priority you'll find dozens of small, specislizrd businesses that will sell stuff around the same cost. Without directly giving...

          If you're looking to buy something online, if you lower Amazon's priority you'll find dozens of small, specislizrd businesses that will sell stuff around the same cost. Without directly giving Amazon a cut.

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      danke
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      /offtopic At the risk of sounding like a StackOverflow user: What problem are you solving for / what's your reason for de-Googling that you'd switch to Brave? It's a for-profit adtech+crypto...

      /offtopic

      At the risk of sounding like a StackOverflow user: What problem are you solving for / what's your reason for de-Googling that you'd switch to Brave? It's a for-profit adtech+crypto company privately held by billionaire Brendan Eich. Is the only criteria here "not Google" or "also more ethical than Google"?

      I also noticed you didn't make a comment for "Browser", is that an oversight or have you already decided on a non-Chromium one?

      4 votes
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        1. danke
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          In that case, you might want to look for an engine that builds its own index instead of just reusing / paying to use Google's. Mojeek is probably still the best free independent engine (but is...

          In that case, you might want to look for an engine that builds its own index instead of just reusing / paying to use Google's. Mojeek is probably still the best free independent engine (but is still ad-based and indexes ≈1.5% the amount of pages that Google does).

          Echoing @vord, I pay for Kagi ($20 for 6 people), which builds its own index but also pays to use a bunch of others, including Google/Bing/Yandex, which may be contrary to your goals. Out of all the products for which you're seeking alternatives, ad-/sponsor-free search is the one area I'd recommend paying for, because an adblocker can't fix the issue of ad-supported search engines up-ranking inferior paid-for results.

          2 votes
  4. vord
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    I'll skip a lot of repeating in the categories: Use Proton for a baseline. So far it's been a very unified solution. You have email, a password manager, some cloud storage with sharing, a VPN, a...

    I'll skip a lot of repeating in the categories: Use Proton for a baseline. So far it's been a very unified solution. You have email, a password manager, some cloud storage with sharing, a VPN, a good calendar. The free tier is good and the paid upgrades are great.

    I'll supplement my Proton services with others. I paid for 2TB pcloud awhile back on a Black Friday sale, and it does great for large file backup (on top of the manual USB one) and sharing folders of pictures and videos. If it's something sensitive, I use e2e encryption using rclone, but that can get into the technical weeds a bit.

    I use self-hosted Bitwarden for my primary password manager and periodically sync to the proton password manager. You don't have to self-host, the free tier from them is fine.

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