Can someone explain why so many people are upset about this feature? I’ve seen talk about harassment being an issue with quote posts but I never got the connection. From what I saw, you can simply...
Can someone explain why so many people are upset about this feature? I’ve seen talk about harassment being an issue with quote posts but I never got the connection. From what I saw, you can simply disable the ability to quote your post, so if you do that, nothing really changes?
In my experience some of the worst behaviour on Twitter was enabled by quote tweets, I assume it's related to that. I can disable quoting my own posts because I don't like it, but if there are...
In my experience some of the worst behaviour on Twitter was enabled by quote tweets, I assume it's related to that. I can disable quoting my own posts because I don't like it, but if there are enough people around me that do like it, I would still expect that to become a more toxic environment.
Like what? I got on the Twitter train extremely early and got off a long time ago so this is one area of the internet I know nothing about. The only thing I can think of is directing people toward...
Like what? I got on the Twitter train extremely early and got off a long time ago so this is one area of the internet I know nothing about. The only thing I can think of is directing people toward a specific post and telling them to harass someone. But you can do that with a screenshot and an @ mention.
Quote posts (in my experience) tend to lead to a culture of "dunking" in which people broadcast their reply to some post via a quote as opposed to a direct reply, fragmenting the conversation...
Quote posts (in my experience) tend to lead to a culture of "dunking" in which people broadcast their reply to some post via a quote as opposed to a direct reply, fragmenting the conversation while also tailoring the audience to be a more favorable one to their view/reply since the quote is primarily seen by followers. This can direct more quotes/dunks at the original post even without a specific call for harassment. While you can do this with a screenshot and an @, having a quote feature lowers that barrier even further (its essentially a screenshot and @ hotkey). I also think people feel less inhibited to be assholes when they're talking about someone via a quote as opposed to talking to someone via a reply.
I think detaching quotes is a good remedy for these issues, for what its worth.
In my defense, I stopped seething when I moved to a better instance with superior moderation. These days I'm merely mildly perturbed!! But on a serious note, I'm forever amused that this feature--...
In my defense, I stopped seething when I moved to a better instance with superior moderation. These days I'm merely mildly perturbed!!
But on a serious note, I'm forever amused that this feature-- one that for some, has negative connotations as described below by Fiachra and gpl-- are a higher priority than actually reigning in all the bots, trolls, and harassment that come from those two "flagship" instances that will likely use Quote Post for evil.
Can someone explain why so many people are upset about this feature? I’ve seen talk about harassment being an issue with quote posts but I never got the connection. From what I saw, you can simply disable the ability to quote your post, so if you do that, nothing really changes?
In my experience some of the worst behaviour on Twitter was enabled by quote tweets, I assume it's related to that. I can disable quoting my own posts because I don't like it, but if there are enough people around me that do like it, I would still expect that to become a more toxic environment.
Like what? I got on the Twitter train extremely early and got off a long time ago so this is one area of the internet I know nothing about. The only thing I can think of is directing people toward a specific post and telling them to harass someone. But you can do that with a screenshot and an @ mention.
Quote posts (in my experience) tend to lead to a culture of "dunking" in which people broadcast their reply to some post via a quote as opposed to a direct reply, fragmenting the conversation while also tailoring the audience to be a more favorable one to their view/reply since the quote is primarily seen by followers. This can direct more quotes/dunks at the original post even without a specific call for harassment. While you can do this with a screenshot and an @, having a quote feature lowers that barrier even further (its essentially a screenshot and @ hotkey). I also think people feel less inhibited to be assholes when they're talking about someone via a quote as opposed to talking to someone via a reply.
I think detaching quotes is a good remedy for these issues, for what its worth.
The smallest of inconveniences on social media, particularly on mobile, will deter people.
Are Mastodon users ever not seething?
Eh? I've been on Maston for a few years. The users tend to be mellow. Older crowd, more international crowd, more diverse crowd, mostly IT people.
In my defense, I stopped seething when I moved to a better instance with superior moderation. These days I'm merely mildly perturbed!!
But on a serious note, I'm forever amused that this feature-- one that for some, has negative connotations as described below by Fiachra and gpl-- are a higher priority than actually reigning in all the bots, trolls, and harassment that come from those two "flagship" instances that will likely use Quote Post for evil.
On Mastodon, yes.
At least before I quit, I don't think that feature was on Twitter.