Tbh I hate a unified feed scroll and prefer the "email client" style. I miss Google reader quite a bit still. I wanted to read most if not all of articles of all the feeds I was following so for...
Tbh I hate a unified feed scroll and prefer the "email client" style. I miss Google reader quite a bit still. I wanted to read most if not all of articles of all the feeds I was following so for me it was very distinct from the social media style feed where you miss things easily.
RSS and RSS Readers is one oddity of the internet that I can't quite fathom why nothing seems to get it right. Every couple years I'll try to dive back into RSS readers, and it always astounds me...
RSS and RSS Readers is one oddity of the internet that I can't quite fathom why nothing seems to get it right.
Every couple years I'll try to dive back into RSS readers, and it always astounds me that for something as conceptually simple as a feed of links to articles on websites, absolutely nothing seems to get it just right. At least not since Google Reader.
Everything is either overly complex, a bizarre paid cloud service, or lacks basic features you'd expect from an RSS reader. The last RSS reader that I really gave any attention to trying to get to work lacked the feature of sorting your articles by the date the article was posted, and the author of the software responded to threads upon threads of github tickets arguing with people in unhinged ways about why they didn't need to sort by the date the article was posted, not that there were technical challenges, just that he refused to do so.
And all the other somewhat decent ones are all paid cloud services. Why can't I just get a local hosted RSS reader that pulls the articles when I open the app, and lets me sort and categorize how I want?
I'm actually doing just that currently. Well, technically I consume my rss feeds using a phone client, but that at least allows me to filter my articles in the way that i like (oldest first). I...
Why can't I just get a local hosted RSS reader that pulls the articles when I open the app, and lets me sort and categorize how I want?
I'm actually doing just that currently. Well, technically I consume my rss feeds using a phone client, but that at least allows me to filter my articles in the way that i like (oldest first). I have FreshRSS set up on my home network and I connect to it using Read You android RSS reader. FreshRSS (is PHP based :/) allows you to set custom sorting and filtering rules from what I remember of my short time going through the docs.
The one I use puts the categories or feeds in a menu at the left, and has a unified feed of all of them combined (or you can choose a specific feed). I usually scroll through the unified feed,...
The one I use puts the categories or feeds in a menu at the left, and has a unified feed of all of them combined (or you can choose a specific feed). I usually scroll through the unified feed, read what I want, then use the mark all as read to clear the rest. Works well for me.
It's FOSS and is called Feeder (developer is Space Cowboy)
I use FreshRSS for my RSS needs and one of the features it has that I make heavy use of is the ability to mark a new item as read immediately upon receiving it. Seems to defeat the point of an RSS...
I use FreshRSS for my RSS needs and one of the features it has that I make heavy use of is the ability to mark a new item as read immediately upon receiving it. Seems to defeat the point of an RSS reader, but in practice it allows me to separate out firehose feeds from variably updated feeds that I do want to take some action on each new item. To either read the article or just mark it as read and move on. (I would imagine similar features exists for other feed aggregators, FreshRSS is just the one I settled with and am most familiar with.)
For example, I have the Tildes RSS feed and the Kagi Small Web RSS feed both set to immediately be set as read on receiving new articles. And I've got both in a category I call "Discovery" (among other sources). So I can dip my toe in whenever I like and see what's come out recently in any of these feeds. But there's no ever-increasing unread count. No visual cue calling my attention to it. It's less out of a sense of phantom obligation and more just eliminating the need to constantly mark those feeds as read.
I use a similar system to limit clutter, but I have "max unread" set for feeds that update frequently (some Reddit RSS feeds) and also ignored from the main feed so I need to specifically go look...
I use a similar system to limit clutter, but I have "max unread" set for feeds that update frequently (some Reddit RSS feeds) and also ignored from the main feed so I need to specifically go look for them after catching up with the main feed.
I do something similar. How do you achieve this? I currently have a category called "Discovery", used the same way as yours, but I just manually mark each feed within it to not appear in my main...
I do something similar. How do you achieve this? I currently have a category called "Discovery", used the same way as yours, but I just manually mark each feed within it to not appear in my main feed. This way I only see feeds of this category by manually opening it. I really wish FreshRSS let me set that by category rather than individual feeds (although not enough to relearn PHP and make a PR myself, apparently!).
I'm doing it the same way as you. Per-feed mark everything as read upon receiving and each feed only shows in that particular category. Though I tend to do that with most of my feeds, where they...
I'm doing it the same way as you. Per-feed mark everything as read upon receiving and each feed only shows in that particular category. Though I tend to do that with most of my feeds, where they only show in their category. (Categorizing everything vaguely by topic. Science, Tech, Art, etc.) The only things that I have come through to my main stream are various people's blueskys or personal blogs where I do want to see everything they put out. Everything else gets categorized. I know FreshRSS has that important feeds option, but I basically use my main stream for that purpose.
I did just check the options on a category level and I see it supports marking entries as read via a search filter. You might potentially be able to get away with some wildcard operator in there that just matches anything? Haven't tried that myself.
I enjoyed that read, I can see the phantom obligation on other fields, I used to finish each book that I started, the realization that I can simply stop reading what I don't enjoy freed me from...
I enjoyed that read, I can see the phantom obligation on other fields, I used to finish each book that I started, the realization that I can simply stop reading what I don't enjoy freed me from the part I didn't like about reading and long term it gave me time to move to other books that I enjoy much better.
I would like to make an RSS reader following this philosophy, maybe the river one where articles float down stream and I can use a fishing rod to reel anything that hooks as my day read, it could be that is not practical, but it would be certainly interesting.
I switched from the RSS app I used for at least a decade, Unread, to the new version of Silvio Rizzi’s Reeder because he wisely decided that “read” and “unread” aren’t as useful in today’s world...
I switched from the RSS app I used for at least a decade, Unread, to the new version of Silvio Rizzi’s Reeder because he wisely decided that “read” and “unread” aren’t as useful in today’s world of RIL and bookmarking services. Instead, the app is just one timeline whose position is synced between your devices. There’s no unread count, just a number representing how many articles are “newer” than your current timeline position. That alone was enough for me to switch.
Tbh I hate a unified feed scroll and prefer the "email client" style. I miss Google reader quite a bit still. I wanted to read most if not all of articles of all the feeds I was following so for me it was very distinct from the social media style feed where you miss things easily.
RSS and RSS Readers is one oddity of the internet that I can't quite fathom why nothing seems to get it right.
Every couple years I'll try to dive back into RSS readers, and it always astounds me that for something as conceptually simple as a feed of links to articles on websites, absolutely nothing seems to get it just right. At least not since Google Reader.
Everything is either overly complex, a bizarre paid cloud service, or lacks basic features you'd expect from an RSS reader. The last RSS reader that I really gave any attention to trying to get to work lacked the feature of sorting your articles by the date the article was posted, and the author of the software responded to threads upon threads of github tickets arguing with people in unhinged ways about why they didn't need to sort by the date the article was posted, not that there were technical challenges, just that he refused to do so.
And all the other somewhat decent ones are all paid cloud services. Why can't I just get a local hosted RSS reader that pulls the articles when I open the app, and lets me sort and categorize how I want?
There are plenty of open source programs that do what you want - what platform do you want to run it on?
I'm actually doing just that currently. Well, technically I consume my rss feeds using a phone client, but that at least allows me to filter my articles in the way that i like (oldest first). I have FreshRSS set up on my home network and I connect to it using Read You android RSS reader. FreshRSS (is PHP based :/) allows you to set custom sorting and filtering rules from what I remember of my short time going through the docs.
The one I use puts the categories or feeds in a menu at the left, and has a unified feed of all of them combined (or you can choose a specific feed). I usually scroll through the unified feed, read what I want, then use the mark all as read to clear the rest. Works well for me.
It's FOSS and is called Feeder (developer is Space Cowboy)
I use FreshRSS for my RSS needs and one of the features it has that I make heavy use of is the ability to mark a new item as read immediately upon receiving it. Seems to defeat the point of an RSS reader, but in practice it allows me to separate out firehose feeds from variably updated feeds that I do want to take some action on each new item. To either read the article or just mark it as read and move on. (I would imagine similar features exists for other feed aggregators, FreshRSS is just the one I settled with and am most familiar with.)
For example, I have the Tildes RSS feed and the Kagi Small Web RSS feed both set to immediately be set as read on receiving new articles. And I've got both in a category I call "Discovery" (among other sources). So I can dip my toe in whenever I like and see what's come out recently in any of these feeds. But there's no ever-increasing unread count. No visual cue calling my attention to it. It's less out of a sense of phantom obligation and more just eliminating the need to constantly mark those feeds as read.
I use a similar system to limit clutter, but I have "max unread" set for feeds that update frequently (some Reddit RSS feeds) and also ignored from the main feed so I need to specifically go look for them after catching up with the main feed.
I do something similar. How do you achieve this? I currently have a category called "Discovery", used the same way as yours, but I just manually mark each feed within it to not appear in my main feed. This way I only see feeds of this category by manually opening it. I really wish FreshRSS let me set that by category rather than individual feeds (although not enough to relearn PHP and make a PR myself, apparently!).
I'm doing it the same way as you. Per-feed mark everything as read upon receiving and each feed only shows in that particular category. Though I tend to do that with most of my feeds, where they only show in their category. (Categorizing everything vaguely by topic. Science, Tech, Art, etc.) The only things that I have come through to my main stream are various people's blueskys or personal blogs where I do want to see everything they put out. Everything else gets categorized. I know FreshRSS has that important feeds option, but I basically use my main stream for that purpose.
I did just check the options on a category level and I see it supports marking entries as read via a search filter. You might potentially be able to get away with some wildcard operator in there that just matches anything? Haven't tried that myself.
I did see that. I will have a play with the search filter and see how well it works.
I enjoyed that read, I can see the phantom obligation on other fields, I used to finish each book that I started, the realization that I can simply stop reading what I don't enjoy freed me from the part I didn't like about reading and long term it gave me time to move to other books that I enjoy much better.
I would like to make an RSS reader following this philosophy, maybe the river one where articles float down stream and I can use a fishing rod to reel anything that hooks as my day read, it could be that is not practical, but it would be certainly interesting.
I switched from the RSS app I used for at least a decade, Unread, to the new version of Silvio Rizzi’s Reeder because he wisely decided that “read” and “unread” aren’t as useful in today’s world of RIL and bookmarking services. Instead, the app is just one timeline whose position is synced between your devices. There’s no unread count, just a number representing how many articles are “newer” than your current timeline position. That alone was enough for me to switch.