Does the author know that's just how email works? Any email provider telling you otherwise is full of shit. If you want your emails encrypted, you gotta do it yourself. And have all your senders...
with the asterisk that inbound non-Proton emails are handled in plaintext during receipt before being encrypted to the user's key.
Does the author know that's just how email works? Any email provider telling you otherwise is full of shit.
If you want your emails encrypted, you gotta do it yourself. And have all your senders and recipients do it as well.
I can't speak to the accuracy of the rest of the article, but my suspicions are raised.
Relative to Microsoft and Google, yes that is a fairly accurate pitch. How would you pitch 'We make best-effort security which protects from an awful lot of subponeas' to normal people in one...
Relative to Microsoft and Google, yes that is a fairly accurate pitch. How would you pitch 'We make best-effort security which protects from an awful lot of subponeas' to normal people in one sentence? How about seamless PGP integration?
Can't help that the neighbors can watch everyone coming and going from your house, but you can lock the doors and close the blinds. Which is incidentally the default state of affairs IRL with the proliferation of Google/Amazon doorbell cameras.
Sorry about my comment not being about this article directly but: is it just me, or has there been an increase in negative posts/comments/articles/etc about Proton in the last months? (in the...
Sorry about my comment not being about this article directly but: is it just me, or has there been an increase in negative posts/comments/articles/etc about Proton in the last months? (in the internet in general, not here on Tildes specifically)
It doesn't help that the CEO, Andy Yen, made a number of pro-Republican posts on social media using the official Proton accounts, phrased as the official company stance, which were then removed by...
“Our policy is that official accounts cannot be used to express personal political opinions. If it happens by mistake, we correct it as soon as we notice it.”
Additionally, I understand why a company cannot operate without complying with local laws regarding the ability for Police forces to request client information, but Proton seem to be willing to hand over quite a lot of data which could easily be made inaccessible instead. I'm not a fan of how their marketing material glosses over valid risks to privacy, or valid concessions that they must make to the law. They should be more up-front about the fact that their service does not offer absolute security / privacy.
The link needs my email to continue reading, which I'd rather not give. Do you have an archive link or alternate source? I've seen the past argument about Yen being pro-Trump, but in general it...
The link needs my email to continue reading, which I'd rather not give. Do you have an archive link or alternate source?
I've seen the past argument about Yen being pro-Trump, but in general it doesn't hold up. He supported a specific cabinet pick and occasional good policies (broken clock), but overall both Yen and Proton lean toward progressive policies. It's just a poorly-worded tweet that takes off while the rest of the information is slower to propagate (if it does at all). Between that and the news about the recent data request that they had to comply with, it feels like their negative actions are being amplified in a way to make them look worse.
Could Proton be better? Absolutely. But they are miles better than the common alternatives, and they're trying to provide more coverage than other privacy-focused companies. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Does the author know that's just how email works? Any email provider telling you otherwise is full of shit.
If you want your emails encrypted, you gotta do it yourself. And have all your senders and recipients do it as well.
I can't speak to the accuracy of the rest of the article, but my suspicions are raised.
Probably he knows. Maybe Proton doesn't, or doesn't care. From Proton Mail landing page:
Relative to Microsoft and Google, yes that is a fairly accurate pitch. How would you pitch 'We make best-effort security which protects from an awful lot of subponeas' to normal people in one sentence? How about seamless PGP integration?
Can't help that the neighbors can watch everyone coming and going from your house, but you can lock the doors and close the blinds. Which is incidentally the default state of affairs IRL with the proliferation of Google/Amazon doorbell cameras.
Sorry about my comment not being about this article directly but: is it just me, or has there been an increase in negative posts/comments/articles/etc about Proton in the last months? (in the internet in general, not here on Tildes specifically)
It doesn't help that the CEO, Andy Yen, made a number of pro-Republican posts on social media using the official Proton accounts, phrased as the official company stance, which were then removed by the Proton team, as:
Additionally, I understand why a company cannot operate without complying with local laws regarding the ability for Police forces to request client information, but Proton seem to be willing to hand over quite a lot of data which could easily be made inaccessible instead. I'm not a fan of how their marketing material glosses over valid risks to privacy, or valid concessions that they must make to the law. They should be more up-front about the fact that their service does not offer absolute security / privacy.
The link needs my email to continue reading, which I'd rather not give. Do you have an archive link or alternate source?
I've seen the past argument about Yen being pro-Trump, but in general it doesn't hold up. He supported a specific cabinet pick and occasional good policies (broken clock), but overall both Yen and Proton lean toward progressive policies. It's just a poorly-worded tweet that takes off while the rest of the information is slower to propagate (if it does at all). Between that and the news about the recent data request that they had to comply with, it feels like their negative actions are being amplified in a way to make them look worse.
Could Proton be better? Absolutely. But they are miles better than the common alternatives, and they're trying to provide more coverage than other privacy-focused companies. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.