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Amazon is buying home mesh router startup, Eero

Tags: amazon

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  1. [11]
    balooga
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    I had been eyeing Eero since I heard their sponsored reads on Accidental Tech Podcast. Amazon getting involved pretty much kills my interest though. Anybody know of a good alternative?

    I had been eyeing Eero since I heard their sponsored reads on Accidental Tech Podcast. Amazon getting involved pretty much kills my interest though. Anybody know of a good alternative?

    11 votes
    1. [5]
      onyxleopard
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      Damn! I, too, really liked my Eero setup. I really can’t condone Amazon seeing all my traffic. I don’t know of a good alternative, and I would love to know of one.

      Damn! I, too, really liked my Eero setup. I really can’t condone Amazon seeing all my traffic. I don’t know of a good alternative, and I would love to know of one.

      5 votes
      1. [2]
        Deimos
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        In the HN thread about this, there are a fair number of users recommending Ubiquiti's AmpliFi as an alternative.

        In the HN thread about this, there are a fair number of users recommending Ubiquiti's AmpliFi as an alternative.

        9 votes
        1. pew
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          The AmpliFi devices are awesome, a friend of my has them deployed all over her house, the connection is great and the mesh works perfectly fine. It's also a super user friendly setup with a mobile...

          The AmpliFi devices are awesome, a friend of my has them deployed all over her house, the connection is great and the mesh works perfectly fine. It's also a super user friendly setup with a mobile app.

          If you're more technical I'd recommend the other AP's Ubiquiti offers, like the UniFi AC/HD series. This requires you to run a controller (not 24/7 though) to configure them and offers more freedom.

          4 votes
      2. [2]
        patience_limited
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        Dammit. I picked up my Eeros during the Kickstarter beta, because I wanted guest network isolation and good range, with what looked like the best and easiest home mesh technology at the time. Had...

        Dammit. I picked up my Eeros during the Kickstarter beta, because I wanted guest network isolation and good range, with what looked like the best and easiest home mesh technology at the time. Had to make sure the spouse could stream music while he's out mowing the lawn, without burning through the cellular data budget.

        I haven't bought the Eero security subscription. The devices are still firewalled and I expect I can edit Amazon out of the most egregious snooping.

        3 votes
        1. onyxleopard
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          I already had separate encrypt.me and 1Password subscriptions, so subsuming those under the Eero Plus subscription actually saved me money.

          I already had separate encrypt.me and 1Password subscriptions, so subsuming those under the Eero Plus subscription actually saved me money.

          1 vote
    2. flatline3
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      I've had my Eeros for a bit over a year and they've been incredible, this isn't great news!

      I've had my Eeros for a bit over a year and they've been incredible, this isn't great news!

      5 votes
    3. [3]
      JXM
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      I’ve been using Netgear’s Orbi system for a while and it’s been rock solid and was extremely easy to use.

      I’ve been using Netgear’s Orbi system for a while and it’s been rock solid and was extremely easy to use.

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        patience_limited
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        I have a certain suspicion level for Netgear devices - the security and firmware stability isn't stunning, even for consumer devices. If you say Orbi is treating you right, I'll take another look.

        I have a certain suspicion level for Netgear devices - the security and firmware stability isn't stunning, even for consumer devices. If you say Orbi is treating you right, I'll take another look.

        3 votes
        1. JXM
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          I’ve never had any issues with the firmware not working smoothly. I will say that security is a concern, but I think it’s a major issue with almost all routers.

          I’ve never had any issues with the firmware not working smoothly. I will say that security is a concern, but I think it’s a major issue with almost all routers.

          2 votes
    4. rimjeilly
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      So im sure because its Google, some people frown on using it, but my Google Wifi has been stellar...

      So im sure because its Google, some people frown on using it, but my Google Wifi has been stellar...

      2 votes
  2. [3]
    Akir
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    Am I the only one who thinks this concept is a bit crazy? I get the appeal of wireless mesh networks, since American houses tend to be pretty big and some homes have walls made of materials that...

    It makes sense, as these coverage-extending mesh routers, like Echo Dots, are designed to be plugged into every room of the home.

    Am I the only one who thinks this concept is a bit crazy? I get the appeal of wireless mesh networks, since American houses tend to be pretty big and some homes have walls made of materials that absorb radio waves. But I can't imagine needing a repeater in every room unless you are living in a mansion where the rooms are at least as big as a small suite.

    On the other hand, what ever happened to Ad Hoc WiFi? It seems strange that there is a whole category of routers built for mesh networking when mesh networking was part of the standard before the WiFi name existed.

    10 votes
    1. Ordinator
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      You're definitely not the only one. It seems like a tremendous waste to me overall. I'm not sure AdHoc WiFi is really the same thing as mesh networking. The AdHoc stuff was designed to let two...

      You're definitely not the only one. It seems like a tremendous waste to me overall.

      I'm not sure AdHoc WiFi is really the same thing as mesh networking. The AdHoc stuff was designed to let two devices communicate directly without the benefit of a third-party access point. It didn't cover any component of arbitrary devices routing packets AFAIK.

      9 votes
    2. onyxleopard
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      You don’t need a Beacon in every room, but having the option to add Beacons tailored to any potential layout (that probably wasn’t designed with WiFi in mind) is very welcome. My parents’ house...

      You don’t need a Beacon in every room, but having the option to add Beacons tailored to any potential layout (that probably wasn’t designed with WiFi in mind) is very welcome. My parents’ house always had issues with WiFi coverage on the second floor, and after setting up an Eero base station and one Beacon for them, coverage is great.

      5 votes
  3. [2]
    ianw
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    Doesn't google have a mesh wifi network too? It seems like both companies are always trying to do the same things.

    Doesn't google have a mesh wifi network too? It seems like both companies are always trying to do the same things.

    4 votes
    1. rimjeilly
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      Yea Google Wifi - its actually REALLY good (in my experience) ... Amazon likes to play follow the leader for sure... as does everyone I guess. Well, besides Tesla ;)

      Yea Google Wifi - its actually REALLY good (in my experience) ... Amazon likes to play follow the leader for sure... as does everyone I guess. Well, besides Tesla ;)

      4 votes
  4. patience_limited
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    I don't want to panic too much about Amazon owning Eero. I'm guessing they're going to use it to facilitate rollout of their own devices, through which they can collect data much more readily than...

    I don't want to panic too much about Amazon owning Eero. I'm guessing they're going to use it to facilitate rollout of their own devices, through which they can collect data much more readily than through bulk-scrutiny of wireless packets.

    If you have to choose your evil, I'm not seeing evidence that Amazon is selling data to aggregators yet - why would they want to give away their own competitive advantages?

    2 votes