This isn't really an accurate tl;dr though. MySpace was not a cloud storage service, but neither is Facebook or Instagram. I would not feel compelled to back up anything but the MOST important...
This isn't really an accurate tl;dr though. MySpace was not a cloud storage service, but neither is Facebook or Instagram.
I would not feel compelled to back up anything but the MOST important material anywhere besides Dropbox or OneDrive, and I don't do so 'in case the service goes down' - I do so in case I fuck up and my cloud storage gets ransomware encrypted and I somehow don't notice for the number of automatic service backups that exist.
The odds of you accidentally cutting and pasting rather than copy and pasting and then accidentally setting the backup drive on fire are higher than the odds of Dropbox or OneDrive losing your data.
Granted, is anyone surprised an outdated social networking site lost some of the things you uploaded to it and forgot about eons ago? It never tried to be a cloud storage service, and it is a...
Granted, is anyone surprised an outdated social networking site lost some of the things you uploaded to it and forgot about eons ago? It never tried to be a cloud storage service, and it is a mostly defunct site. Quite frankly, I'm surprised it's still kicking!
This feels like an excuse for the writer to promote the Internet Archive, which they are literally personally invested in. The writer's only sources for this article are posts on Reddit, and...
This feels like an excuse for the writer to promote the Internet Archive, which they are literally personally invested in. The writer's only sources for this article are posts on Reddit, and one-third of the article is promoting a project that the writer personally supports.
But... it reminds me of a sticker I saw on someone's laptop on a train a while back: "There is no such thing as the 'cloud'. It's just someone else's computer." If you're putting your data on someone else's computer, you don't have total control over it any more.
I edited the link to point directly to the reddit post (and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!), since the boingboing one wasn't adding anything significant. The reddit post itself is just...
I edited the link to point directly to the reddit post (and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!), since the boingboing one wasn't adding anything significant.
The reddit post itself is just based off another old thread and screenshot so I'm not sure it's much better, but I don't know if there's really any more of a "source" for this anyway.
Transparency! Does this mean that when you edit my comments to say vulgar things, that'll show up now? ;) If I follow the trail of Reddit posts and comments, I eventually get to this comment which...
(and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!)
Transparency! Does this mean that when you edit my comments to say vulgar things, that'll show up now? ;)
I don't know if there's really any more of a "source" for this anyway.
If I follow the trail of Reddit posts and comments, I eventually get to this comment which contains this screenshot of supposed correspondence from the MySpace legal team. As you say, the "source" for all these posts and this article is just a single unsupported screenshot.
Maybe? That page doesn't really explicitly explain that music was lost (probably deliberately), so I really don't know. I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a...
Maybe? That page doesn't really explicitly explain that music was lost (probably deliberately), so I really don't know. I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a sudden, I've seen multiple tech sites mention it and none of them seem to have any more detail than this.
And pfft, no, I hear it's industry standard not to tell users when you edit their comments.
It's either an innocent "today I learned" moment - or, as I said, someone decided to use MySpace as a way to remind people about a project they support. Well, I'm certainly not going to argue...
I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a sudden,
It's either an innocent "today I learned" moment - or, as I said, someone decided to use MySpace as a way to remind people about a project they support.
And pfft, no, I hear it's industry standard not to tell users when you edit their comments.
Well, I'm certainly not going to argue against industry standards! It also means that, when someone gets upset by something in one of my comments, I can tell them it's your work. ;)
Wow. That's a colossal fail on a mindbogging number of levels. How did they not have any backups of 12 years of content? It's a wonder they had any backups at all. They say whatever you upload to...
Wow. That's a colossal fail on a mindbogging number of levels. How did they not have any backups of 12 years of content? It's a wonder they had any backups at all. They say whatever you upload to the internet stays on the internet forever, but nothing breaks that illusion faster than seeing years, increasingly commonly decades, of history disappear in the blink of an eye.
I had a lot of old cyber goregrind projects at MySpace. Sometimes i can find one or two terrible songs i did with fruity loops and propellerhead reason scattered around the web. I remember when i...
I had a lot of old cyber goregrind projects at MySpace. Sometimes i can find one or two terrible songs i did with fruity loops and propellerhead reason scattered around the web. I remember when i started this, i had a pc with just 40gb HDD and 700mb ddr ram.
My most "famous" project was Ayer Killing Spree. I appeared in some compilations that i don't even remember being asked too.
TL;DR: Cloud Storage/Services of any variety aren't safe. Keep your own backups.
This isn't really an accurate tl;dr though. MySpace was not a cloud storage service, but neither is Facebook or Instagram.
I would not feel compelled to back up anything but the MOST important material anywhere besides Dropbox or OneDrive, and I don't do so 'in case the service goes down' - I do so in case I fuck up and my cloud storage gets ransomware encrypted and I somehow don't notice for the number of automatic service backups that exist.
The odds of you accidentally cutting and pasting rather than copy and pasting and then accidentally setting the backup drive on fire are higher than the odds of Dropbox or OneDrive losing your data.
I learned this in the great photobucket purge of whenever that website restructured and deleted old profiles or whatever... Sigh fml
Granted, is anyone surprised an outdated social networking site lost some of the things you uploaded to it and forgot about eons ago? It never tried to be a cloud storage service, and it is a mostly defunct site. Quite frankly, I'm surprised it's still kicking!
This feels like an excuse for the writer to promote the Internet Archive, which they are literally personally invested in. The writer's only sources for this article are posts on Reddit, and one-third of the article is promoting a project that the writer personally supports.
But... it reminds me of a sticker I saw on someone's laptop on a train a while back: "There is no such thing as the 'cloud'. It's just someone else's computer." If you're putting your data on someone else's computer, you don't have total control over it any more.
I edited the link to point directly to the reddit post (and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!), since the boingboing one wasn't adding anything significant.
The reddit post itself is just based off another old thread and screenshot so I'm not sure it's much better, but I don't know if there's really any more of a "source" for this anyway.
Transparency! Does this mean that when you edit my comments to say vulgar things, that'll show up now? ;)
If I follow the trail of Reddit posts and comments, I eventually get to this comment which contains this screenshot of supposed correspondence from the MySpace legal team. As you say, the "source" for all these posts and this article is just a single unsupported screenshot.
The MySpace help site does have this article: Where Is All My Old Stuff?, which kind of implies it, through:
Cool. Maybe that should be added to the post, rather than links to Reddit.
P.S. You might have missed my ninja-edit by replying so quickly. ;)
Maybe? That page doesn't really explicitly explain that music was lost (probably deliberately), so I really don't know. I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a sudden, I've seen multiple tech sites mention it and none of them seem to have any more detail than this.
And pfft, no, I hear it's industry standard not to tell users when you edit their comments.
It's either an innocent "today I learned" moment - or, as I said, someone decided to use MySpace as a way to remind people about a project they support.
Well, I'm certainly not going to argue against industry standards! It also means that, when someone gets upset by something in one of my comments, I can tell them it's your work. ;)
Wow. That's a colossal fail on a mindbogging number of levels. How did they not have any backups of 12 years of content? It's a wonder they had any backups at all. They say whatever you upload to the internet stays on the internet forever, but nothing breaks that illusion faster than seeing years, increasingly commonly decades, of history disappear in the blink of an eye.
It stays forever, but with no paths to it. Finding it is near impossible due to link rot.
I had a lot of old cyber goregrind projects at MySpace. Sometimes i can find one or two terrible songs i did with fruity loops and propellerhead reason scattered around the web. I remember when i started this, i had a pc with just 40gb HDD and 700mb ddr ram.
My most "famous" project was Ayer Killing Spree. I appeared in some compilations that i don't even remember being asked too.
With a quick search i found these sites: 1 2 3 (MySpace link. There was a song there i used to listen for nostalgia, but i think it's broken now. So the article is probably right)
I didn't know there was still music on Myspace. And why is it a link to a reddit post? Doesn't that go against the whole point of this site?