21 votes

Myspace lost all the music its users uploaded between 2003 and 2015

17 comments

  1. [4]
    cptcobalt Link
    TL;DR: Cloud Storage/Services of any variety aren't safe. Keep your own backups.

    TL;DR: Cloud Storage/Services of any variety aren't safe. Keep your own backups.

    19 votes
    1. vakieh Link Parent
      This isn't really an accurate tl;dr though. MySpace was not a cloud storage service, but neither is Facebook or Instagram. I would not feel compelled to back up anything but the MOST important...

      This isn't really an accurate tl;dr though. MySpace was not a cloud storage service, but neither is Facebook or Instagram.

      I would not feel compelled to back up anything but the MOST important material anywhere besides Dropbox or OneDrive, and I don't do so 'in case the service goes down' - I do so in case I fuck up and my cloud storage gets ransomware encrypted and I somehow don't notice for the number of automatic service backups that exist.

      The odds of you accidentally cutting and pasting rather than copy and pasting and then accidentally setting the backup drive on fire are higher than the odds of Dropbox or OneDrive losing your data.

      5 votes
    2. lepigpen Link Parent
      I learned this in the great photobucket purge of whenever that website restructured and deleted old profiles or whatever... Sigh fml

      I learned this in the great photobucket purge of whenever that website restructured and deleted old profiles or whatever... Sigh fml

      2 votes
    3. DGx Link Parent
      Granted, is anyone surprised an outdated social networking site lost some of the things you uploaded to it and forgot about eons ago? It never tried to be a cloud storage service, and it is a...

      Granted, is anyone surprised an outdated social networking site lost some of the things you uploaded to it and forgot about eons ago? It never tried to be a cloud storage service, and it is a mostly defunct site. Quite frankly, I'm surprised it's still kicking!

      1 vote
  2. Yugioh_Mishima Link
    A couple years ago I was doing some digital housekeeping and found an old Yahoo email address I no longer used. I logged in to delete it, but found it'd recently received a notification that my...

    A couple years ago I was doing some digital housekeeping and found an old Yahoo email address I no longer used. I logged in to delete it, but found it'd recently received a notification that my MySpace credentials had been leaked in a security breach, which was odd since I could've sworn I'd deleted my account in like 2006. I followed the password reset instructions and realized it was for a music page with a couple songs I'd thrown together in FruityLoops back in the day. Interestingly, they had nearly 1,000 plays/downloads between them.

    I didn't care enough to re-save them then so I'm not too broken up about them being gone now, but it was a nice thought that some stranger(s) in a forgotten corner of the internet had found music I'd made to be worth listening to. Who knows, maybe years from now they'll surface again on some random hard drive and be considered long lost artifacts of early 2000s electronic music.

    Otherwise, RIP "Esprit de Corps", "Ghost Dancer", and "Cold Depths".

    12 votes
  3. [7]
    Algernon_Asimov Link
    This feels like an excuse for the writer to promote the Internet Archive, which they are literally personally invested in. The writer's only sources for this article are posts on Reddit, and...

    This feels like an excuse for the writer to promote the Internet Archive, which they are literally personally invested in. The writer's only sources for this article are posts on Reddit, and one-third of the article is promoting a project that the writer personally supports.

    But... it reminds me of a sticker I saw on someone's laptop on a train a while back: "There is no such thing as the 'cloud'. It's just someone else's computer." If you're putting your data on someone else's computer, you don't have total control over it any more.

    8 votes
    1. [6]
      Deimos Link Parent
      I edited the link to point directly to the reddit post (and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!), since the boingboing one wasn't adding anything significant. The reddit post itself is just...

      I edited the link to point directly to the reddit post (and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!), since the boingboing one wasn't adding anything significant.

      The reddit post itself is just based off another old thread and screenshot so I'm not sure it's much better, but I don't know if there's really any more of a "source" for this anyway.

      5 votes
      1. [5]
        Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
        Transparency! Does this mean that when you edit my comments to say vulgar things, that'll show up now? ;) If I follow the trail of Reddit posts and comments, I eventually get to this comment which...

        (and the edit shows up in the Topic Log now!)

        Transparency! Does this mean that when you edit my comments to say vulgar things, that'll show up now? ;)

        I don't know if there's really any more of a "source" for this anyway.

        If I follow the trail of Reddit posts and comments, I eventually get to this comment which contains this screenshot of supposed correspondence from the MySpace legal team. As you say, the "source" for all these posts and this article is just a single unsupported screenshot.

        2 votes
        1. [4]
          Deimos Link Parent
          The MySpace help site does have this article: Where Is All My Old Stuff?, which kind of implies it, through:

          The MySpace help site does have this article: Where Is All My Old Stuff?, which kind of implies it, through:

          We completely rebuilt Myspace and decided to move over some of your content from the old Myspace.

          What's available?

          1. Photos
          2. Friends

          [...]

          If you are looking for something that is not on this list, that means the content is no longer available and cannot be retrieved.

          6 votes
          1. [3]
            Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
            Cool. Maybe that should be added to the post, rather than links to Reddit. P.S. You might have missed my ninja-edit by replying so quickly. ;)

            Cool. Maybe that should be added to the post, rather than links to Reddit.

            P.S. You might have missed my ninja-edit by replying so quickly. ;)

            1. [2]
              Deimos Link Parent
              Maybe? That page doesn't really explicitly explain that music was lost (probably deliberately), so I really don't know. I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a...

              Maybe? That page doesn't really explicitly explain that music was lost (probably deliberately), so I really don't know. I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a sudden, I've seen multiple tech sites mention it and none of them seem to have any more detail than this.

              And pfft, no, I hear it's industry standard not to tell users when you edit their comments.

              2 votes
              1. Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
                It's either an innocent "today I learned" moment - or, as I said, someone decided to use MySpace as a way to remind people about a project they support. Well, I'm certainly not going to argue...

                I'm confused about why this seems to be getting attention today all of a sudden,

                It's either an innocent "today I learned" moment - or, as I said, someone decided to use MySpace as a way to remind people about a project they support.

                And pfft, no, I hear it's industry standard not to tell users when you edit their comments.

                Well, I'm certainly not going to argue against industry standards! It also means that, when someone gets upset by something in one of my comments, I can tell them it's your work. ;)

                1 vote
  4. [2]
    Silbern Link
    Wow. That's a colossal fail on a mindbogging number of levels. How did they not have any backups of 12 years of content? It's a wonder they had any backups at all. They say whatever you upload to...

    Wow. That's a colossal fail on a mindbogging number of levels. How did they not have any backups of 12 years of content? It's a wonder they had any backups at all. They say whatever you upload to the internet stays on the internet forever, but nothing breaks that illusion faster than seeing years, increasingly commonly decades, of history disappear in the blink of an eye.

    1 vote
    1. asoftbird Link Parent
      It stays forever, but with no paths to it. Finding it is near impossible due to link rot.

      It stays forever, but with no paths to it. Finding it is near impossible due to link rot.

  5. Grand0rbiter (edited ) Link
    I had a lot of old cyber goregrind projects at MySpace. Sometimes i can find one or two terrible songs i did with fruity loops and propellerhead reason scattered around the web. I remember when i...

    I had a lot of old cyber goregrind projects at MySpace. Sometimes i can find one or two terrible songs i did with fruity loops and propellerhead reason scattered around the web. I remember when i started this, i had a pc with just 40gb HDD and 700mb ddr ram.

    My most "famous" project was Ayer Killing Spree. I appeared in some compilations that i don't even remember being asked too.

    With a quick search i found these sites: 1 2 3 (MySpace link. There was a song there i used to listen for nostalgia, but i think it's broken now. So the article is probably right)

    1 vote
  6. [2]
    supermario182 Link
    I didn't know there was still music on Myspace. And why is it a link to a reddit post? Doesn't that go against the whole point of this site?

    I didn't know there was still music on Myspace. And why is it a link to a reddit post? Doesn't that go against the whole point of this site?

    1. Bauke Link Parent
      Why would it be? It's a post on Reddit about something pretty important, highlighting the big reason why you should backup your data in multiple places. The actual events happened a year ago and...

      And why is it a link to a reddit post? Doesn't that go against the whole point of this site?

      Why would it be? It's a post on Reddit about something pretty important, highlighting the big reason why you should backup your data in multiple places. The actual events happened a year ago and from a quick search all the articles refer back to the Reddit threads inside the thread linked here. So, in some way it would end up going back to Reddit anyways.

      There's plenty of posts about and from Reddit that fit in fine on Tildes and are discussion-worthy.

      2 votes