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The creator of the "Upcoming Reactionary Movement Venn Diagram" explains what led to its creation on Tumblr in 2014

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  1. [6]
    alyaza Link
    i am so blessed to be one of the probably-not-many people who is (and remains) aware of the blog that the dude in this article cites as the ultimate inspiration for this article, which is the...

    i am so blessed to be one of the probably-not-many people who is (and remains) aware of the blog that the dude in this article cites as the ultimate inspiration for this article, which is the literally-impossible-to-take-seriously and also mildly fucking insane my nationalist pony. it is truly a blog for the ages, folks (and probably the best case for why we need to enact a policy of unironic posadism).

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      imperialismus Link Parent
      I can't tell if that blog is satire or serious. Poe's Law in effect. And referencing an obscure Marxist (? thx google) isn't clarifying things. What's Posadism about?

      I can't tell if that blog is satire or serious. Poe's Law in effect. And referencing an obscure Marxist (? thx google) isn't clarifying things. What's Posadism about?

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        alyaza Link Parent
        my nationalist pony is not satirical, as far as i'm aware. also, posadism is leftist ideology which proposes that communism can only come about as a direct result of nuclear warfare, after which...

        my nationalist pony is not satirical, as far as i'm aware. also, posadism is leftist ideology which proposes that communism can only come about as a direct result of nuclear warfare, after which humanity will unify and do crimes with aliens or something. also, dolphins are involved. it is, in fact, as insane and hilarious as it sounds.

        5 votes
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          jgb Link Parent
          Sounds like Douglas Adams if Douglas Adams hadn't died too young and had instead became a left accelerationist philosopher.

          Sounds like Douglas Adams if Douglas Adams hadn't died too young and had instead became a left accelerationist philosopher.

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            alyaza Link Parent
            it is fairly wacky, yes. they even have a trotskyist internationale--with exactly one functioning party, that is.

            it is fairly wacky, yes. they even have a trotskyist internationale--with exactly one functioning party, that is.

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            1. jgb Link Parent
              I suppose this is the left-wing equivalent to right-wingers doing too many drugs and ending up stuck in a faculty basement in Warwick †. † Or rather, a field near Coventry.

              I suppose this is the left-wing equivalent to right-wingers doing too many drugs and ending up stuck in a faculty basement in Warwick †.

              † Or rather, a field near Coventry.

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    Omnicrola Link
    Uhm... Discord isn't really a community you can group together like that. Its like saying Google Hangouts is a community full of people who love moon landing conspiracies. Do people talk about...

    The section about 9gag and 4chan lines up extremely well with what we’ve seen in 4chan-adjacent communities like Discord and 8chan.

    Uhm... Discord isn't really a community you can group together like that. Its like saying Google Hangouts is a community full of people who love moon landing conspiracies. Do people talk about that stuff? Probably. Except nobody but the participants can see it.

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    1. Deimos (edited ) Link Parent
      I think it's a little less clear than you're making it sound. Discord's effectively open in that people can just put up a Discord link for "join our server" with no barrier at all. Because it's...

      I think it's a little less clear than you're making it sound. Discord's effectively open in that people can just put up a Discord link for "join our server" with no barrier at all. Because it's that easy, a ton of communities now use Discord as something like an ephemeral forum (which could describe 4chan too), for general conversation and sharing memes/links/etc.

      I agree it's not really fair to compare or connect it directly to 4chan, but it's also not really comparable to something like Hangouts either. Getting into a Hangouts group requires being directly invited by someone already in it, and it also doesn't have all the organizational capabilities like Discord does to give servers a bunch of different rooms and so on. It can't be used by anything except a fairly small or mostly-inactive group.

      Discord has similarities to various previous platforms, but it's fairly unique overall and definitely is being used by a lot of the extremist groups (and tons of non-extremist groups as well, of course). They're having a lot of issues trying to figure out ways to deal with all the awful content being spread through their platform.

      If anything, I'd probably say that Reddit might be the best comparison for Discord. People already have an account on the overall platform, and anyone can set up a new server/subreddit that others can easily join, and offshoots and replacements happen often. Discord's a little more private than Reddit since there's no way to browse a server without actually joining it, but there are quite a few similarities overall.

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    2. imperialismus Link Parent
      Yeah, that is like calling Facebook 4chan-adjecent because people post memes and talk about rightwing politics on the site. But everyone's on Facebook, from the leftiest lefty to the rightwingest...

      Yeah, that is like calling Facebook 4chan-adjecent because people post memes and talk about rightwing politics on the site. But everyone's on Facebook, from the leftiest lefty to the rightwingest alt-righter. Discord is, if smaller in scale, similar. There's a LGBT discord and a leftie discord for every alt-right discord and they mutually hate each other.

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  3. jgb Link
    This is more accurate than any MS Paint venn diagram has any right to be. With hindsight I'd substitute Bronies for the more general category of Neckbeards but otherwise scarily on-point...

    This is more accurate than any MS Paint venn diagram has any right to be. With hindsight I'd substitute Bronies for the more general category of Neckbeards but otherwise scarily on-point...

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    Bullmaestro Link
    Bronies? What? Is this guy seriously bunching together the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom with the kind of people that commit mass shootings?

    Bronies? What?

    Is this guy seriously bunching together the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom with the kind of people that commit mass shootings?

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      alyaza Link Parent
      i mean, there is a fairly sizeable overlap in some places. there is a decently sized community of fascist bronies, and there are and always have been plenty of racist 4chan types who are a part of...

      i mean, there is a fairly sizeable overlap in some places. there is a decently sized community of fascist bronies, and there are and always have been plenty of racist 4chan types who are a part of the community because of its roots, although nowadays many of those people have moved on since the show is finishing.

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        cfabbro Link Parent
        I honestly thought you might be kidding... but depressingly you were not: My Little Nazi: The Curious Link Between the Alt-Right and the My Little Pony Fandom Pony Nationalism and the Furred...
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        1. alyaza Link Parent
          oh no, i'm not. i used 8chan for awhile and 8chan has/had a decent sized answer to 4chan's /mlp/ called /pone/--almost everybody who used the 8chan board was a fascist or fascist-adjacent, and...

          oh no, i'm not. i used 8chan for awhile and 8chan has/had a decent sized answer to 4chan's /mlp/ called /pone/--almost everybody who used the 8chan board was a fascist or fascist-adjacent, and most of the people there (and accordingly, their culture) was imported from 4chan's /mlp/ to begin with. there has always been--and most likely always will be, even when the show reboots sometime in the near future--a far-right component of pony fandom, even though that component isn't necessarily very large.

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  5. chembliss Link
    Will the explanation surprise me, though?

    Will the explanation surprise me, though?