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France fines Apple $27 million for slowing down iPhones

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  1. [3]
    gpl
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    Oh nooooooo... This is .01% of the amount Apple has available in cash on hand, not even their total net worth. For comparison, the median US savings account has ~$9,000 in savings, so a...

    $27 million

    Oh nooooooo...

    This is .01% of the amount Apple has available in cash on hand, not even their total net worth. For comparison, the median US savings account has ~$9,000 in savings, so a corresponding punishment would be charging the average person $0.90.

    If the intent here was to deter such practices in the future (or encourage more transparency, particularly when the reason for the slow down might be valid), then they certainly have not accomplished that. Punitive fines for large corporations almost never work - the correct response to protect consumers is more government oversight of these mega-corps.

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      JXM
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      The problem is these companies make so much money that the amount they're fined can easily be written off as the cost of doing business. Fines should be tied to a percentage of income. That way a...

      Punitive fines for large corporations almost never work

      The problem is these companies make so much money that the amount they're fined can easily be written off as the cost of doing business. Fines should be tied to a percentage of income. That way a massive corporation like Apple or Google being hit with a fine could actually make a difference.

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      1. lionirdeadman
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        I thought Europe understood this when they made GDPR but I guess France forgot.

        Fines should be tied to a percentage of income.

        I thought Europe understood this when they made GDPR but I guess France forgot.

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    NaraVara
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    It’s deeply ironic that Apple did this explicitly to extend the life of phones with decrepit batteries and they’re being penalized as if they were forcing them into obsolescence instead....

    It’s deeply ironic that Apple did this explicitly to extend the life of phones with decrepit batteries and they’re being penalized as if they were forcing them into obsolescence instead. Especially in light of the fact that the throttling is explicitly tied to battery performance, I don’t understand how French regulators could come to this conclusion.

    8 votes
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      HoolaBoola
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      Wasn't that basically regardless of the battery's condition? Even if you had recently replaced the old battery with a brand new one, Apple still slowed it down, which I think isn't right

      Wasn't that basically regardless of the battery's condition?

      Even if you had recently replaced the old battery with a brand new one, Apple still slowed it down, which I think isn't right

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        NaraVara
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        AFAIK it was based on the phones diagnostics of the battery. One of the problems was the thing was totally opaque, so it didn’t tell you that’s what it was doing and they didn’t even make the...

        AFAIK it was based on the phones diagnostics of the battery. One of the problems was the thing was totally opaque, so it didn’t tell you that’s what it was doing and they didn’t even make the battery diagnostic available so you couldn’t check it yourself.

        They still haven’t put the battery diagnostic on the iPad OS, which I find deeply frustrating considering how long people hold onto their iPads.

        IMO, though, if they really wanted to tout the environmental thing they’d make battery service not cost so much. It’s about $80, but ought to be ~$50.

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        1. HoolaBoola
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          Yeah, I understand why it might be helpful, but the way Apple introduced it just makes one feel that they're just trying to get people to switch phones earlier

          Yeah, I understand why it might be helpful, but the way Apple introduced it just makes one feel that they're just trying to get people to switch phones earlier