Wow, that's not reassuring PR at all. They're not saying they're giving up on their core services, but I imagine that that would be the question most people have and they're just not addressing...
Initially, our single top priority is helping to make Zoom even more secure. There are no specific plans for the Keybase app yet. Ultimately Keybase's future is in Zoom's hands, and we'll see where that takes us. Of course, if anything changes about Keybase’s availability, our users will get plenty of notice.
Wow, that's not reassuring PR at all. They're not saying they're giving up on their core services, but I imagine that that would be the question most people have and they're just not addressing it?
Also: did Zoom really just buy up the first "crypto" company in need of funds it could find? Why didn't just hire, like... engineers? Was there a prior relationship? Did Keybase pitch them a way to seamlessly integrate their cryptography systems into Zoom? What's going on?
I mean that's essentially what they did, expect if they just hired engineers they would have no set-up, no framework, basically nothing to go on. Now they've got engineers and also everything...
Why didn't just hire, like... engineers?
I mean that's essentially what they did, expect if they just hired engineers they would have no set-up, no framework, basically nothing to go on. Now they've got engineers and also everything those engineers need to actually start working.
Does it work that seamlessly though? Zoom and Keybase have been producing radically different Software for years, with seemingly no prior integration or collaboration, so I'm wondering how easily...
Now they've got engineers and also everything those engineers need to actually start working.
Does it work that seamlessly though? Zoom and Keybase have been producing radically different Software for years, with seemingly no prior integration or collaboration, so I'm wondering how easily Keybase's engineers can simply be slotted into the Zoom team. Or at least, how much easier that'll be versus hiring engineers with specific expertises and experience with the tools Zoom currently uses.
Maybe during negotiations they noticed their workflows and choices of tools were very similar and that helped tie the knot? If not, that means there will probably some time dedicated to getting the Keybase team up to speed.
I find your "delete my account" reaction odd because Keybase designed their protocol so you don't need to trust their servers. Are you worried about security bugs not getting fixed? I'm not using...
I find your "delete my account" reaction odd because Keybase designed their protocol so you don't need to trust their servers. Are you worried about security bugs not getting fixed?
I'm not using my account for much of anything, but it's occasionally been useful and I see no harm in keeping it.
I've been regularly using Jitsi with friends and family for almost two months now, and it works flawlessly. I'm beyond impressed with it, and very grateful that they provide it for free.
I've been regularly using Jitsi with friends and family for almost two months now, and it works flawlessly. I'm beyond impressed with it, and very grateful that they provide it for free.
JitsiMeet seems to be the alternative most cited for larger conferences, but for smaller calls Riot should be just fine. No clue how well RIot handles large numbers of participants.
JitsiMeet seems to be the alternative most cited for larger conferences, but for smaller calls Riot should be just fine. No clue how well RIot handles large numbers of participants.
Wow, that's not reassuring PR at all. They're not saying they're giving up on their core services, but I imagine that that would be the question most people have and they're just not addressing it?
Also: did Zoom really just buy up the first "crypto" company in need of funds it could find? Why didn't just hire, like... engineers? Was there a prior relationship? Did Keybase pitch them a way to seamlessly integrate their cryptography systems into Zoom? What's going on?
I mean that's essentially what they did, expect if they just hired engineers they would have no set-up, no framework, basically nothing to go on. Now they've got engineers and also everything those engineers need to actually start working.
Does it work that seamlessly though? Zoom and Keybase have been producing radically different Software for years, with seemingly no prior integration or collaboration, so I'm wondering how easily Keybase's engineers can simply be slotted into the Zoom team. Or at least, how much easier that'll be versus hiring engineers with specific expertises and experience with the tools Zoom currently uses.
Maybe during negotiations they noticed their workflows and choices of tools were very similar and that helped tie the knot? If not, that means there will probably some time dedicated to getting the Keybase team up to speed.
Oh it's definitely not going to be seamless, but it's definitely better than having to build your own in-house security department.
and they wouldn't have had a flashy attention-grabbing announcement to make. to me that feels a big part of it.
I find your "delete my account" reaction odd because Keybase designed their protocol so you don't need to trust their servers. Are you worried about security bugs not getting fixed?
I'm not using my account for much of anything, but it's occasionally been useful and I see no harm in keeping it.
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I don't think so, Tim.
I don't think it's an issue unless you use Keybase for PGP? (I don't use PGP at all.)
Uploading any private key anywhere is a terrible idea.
Decent related thread on HN: Ask HN: Keybase Alternatives?
Jitsi is a good option https://jitsi.org/
I've been regularly using Jitsi with friends and family for almost two months now, and it works flawlessly. I'm beyond impressed with it, and very grateful that they provide it for free.
JitsiMeet seems to be the alternative most cited for larger conferences, but for smaller calls Riot should be just fine. No clue how well RIot handles large numbers of participants.