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Crossposting on Tildes

One of the very frustrating things for me on reddit is the way crossposting works, essentially making it a karma whoring feature more than anything else.

Can crossposting be simplified? For example: I just posted a topic in ~tv, however I realize it applies more to ~comp (sorry, I was premature on posting it somewhere - maybe it can be moved?) but could fit in ~tv as it's related, even if being a 3rd cousin from the groups intent. It would be nice to be able to pick the groups I'd like to publish it to, so the discussion is centralized and consistent - if that makes sense?

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  1. [7]
    enso
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    I think it would be interesting to have a feature where you could cross-post to a couple of communities and have the discussion be linked between the two. Obviously the votes on the posts would...

    I think it would be interesting to have a feature where you could cross-post to a couple of communities and have the discussion be linked between the two. Obviously the votes on the posts would stay separated in the given communities. I don't know how hard this would be to implement as a feature tho. The other thing is that if something was posted to both a small community and a large one the large community would dominate the conversation. Maybe allow this as an option when posting, but not have it be enabled by default.

    11 votes
    1. [5]
      Shimmyshine
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      I really like all of it except the conversation part. I mean your point is 100% valid and a legitimate concern, but that defeats the purpose of the centralized conversation (rather than having 2...

      I really like all of it except the conversation part. I mean your point is 100% valid and a legitimate concern, but that defeats the purpose of the centralized conversation (rather than having 2 branches of the topic to keep up with as the OP) if that makes any sense?

      Voting should certainly be separate otherwise if you x-post to a large and small community, the large community would inflate it in the small community, that's a certainty.

      1 vote
      1. [2]
        enso
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        The worry that I see with that is if the communities were disposed to talk about topics in a different ways. An extreme example would be if you wanted to cross post something to...

        The worry that I see with that is if the communities were disposed to talk about topics in a different ways. An extreme example would be if you wanted to cross post something to /r/LateStageCapitalism and to /r/The_Donald. Obviously this is a bit more polarizing that this site will see, but it gets the point across. It would not be productive for them to both be discussing the same article.

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        1. Shimmyshine
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          I see. Or users abusing it to crosspost to a maximum number of groups at once increasing spam and clogging the site. Could it not be up to the group moderators to have 3 options "Allow All...

          I see. Or users abusing it to crosspost to a maximum number of groups at once increasing spam and clogging the site. Could it not be up to the group moderators to have 3 options "Allow All X-Posting", "X-Posting Requires Approval" or "No X-Posting"? This provides the feature to the users and group moderators a way of well, moderating it. So if someone who doesn't know the difference between BDSM and BBQ doesn't post a delicious recipe that involves no leather or bruises in the BDSM group.

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        joseph
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        You could maybe generate a "currency exchange" such that 1 vote is ~large equals ~0.1 votes in ~small based on something simple (exponential decay rolling daily average (avg = (1.0-a)*avg +...

        You could maybe generate a "currency exchange" such that 1 vote is ~large equals ~0.1 votes in ~small based on something simple (exponential decay rolling daily average (avg = (1.0-a)*avg + (a)*today where a is 0.1 or 0.01 or so). thisGroupScore = sumAcrossGroups(groupVotes*thisGroupAvgVotesPerDay/groupAvgVotesPerDay)

        That way if something was crossposted in say 3 groups

        group A B
        votes from group 3 8
        votes/day in group 100 1000
        combined vote calculation 100/100*3 + 100/100*8 1000/100*3 + 1000/1000*8
        combined vote calculation 11 38
        (edit: this will make more sense when tables work)

        There might have to be some decay or adjustment factor to prevent tiny topics from dominating the front page of big ones with small coordinated campaigns. Maybe a floor on "votes/day in group".

        1. Natanael
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          I want a perspectives based voting system, where you can see differently weighted scores based on the different groups of readers.

          I want a perspectives based voting system, where you can see differently weighted scores based on the different groups of readers.

    2. JamesTeaKirk
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      Yeah the logic of this is getting funky. All I know is that I would really like to see discussion be as centralized as possible, something like you're indicating.

      Yeah the logic of this is getting funky. All I know is that I would really like to see discussion be as centralized as possible, something like you're indicating.

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    JamesTeaKirk
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    I think the idea is to eventually have tagging eliminate this need. For example, in your case, you could post it under ~comp and tag it with "tv". That way the conversation is really centralized...

    I think the idea is to eventually have tagging eliminate this need. For example, in your case, you could post it under ~comp and tag it with "tv". That way the conversation is really centralized (as it's the same post), and easily filterable.

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    1. [4]
      Shimmyshine
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      Would tagging it with "tv" or "~tv" auto crosspost it into that applicable group? I think the tags are great, I guess I'm just thinking ahead before an awesome feature like x-posting ends up being...

      Would tagging it with "tv" or "~tv" auto crosspost it into that applicable group? I think the tags are great, I guess I'm just thinking ahead before an awesome feature like x-posting ends up being introduced is all.

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      1. [2]
        JamesTeaKirk
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        That's a really good question; It's making my brain hurt

        That's a really good question; It's making my brain hurt

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        1. Natanael
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          It could show up separately, under some tab for "related posts"

          It could show up separately, under some tab for "related posts"

      2. Hunter3
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        I like the idea of having a post be shared to a group which it is tagged with (maybe a one group limit to avoid potential spam). So if someone wanted to post something in ~comp and ~tv, then they...

        I like the idea of having a post be shared to a group which it is tagged with (maybe a one group limit to avoid potential spam).

        So if someone wanted to post something in ~comp and ~tv, then they just post it in one but tag the other, and when a user clicks on the post from the other group, they're sent to the main post.

        1 vote
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    Ganymede
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    Tangentially, I would argue that your post only belongs in ~comp and not at all in ~tv, which seems to be more about content of television shows. The mechanics of setting up the infrastructure of...

    Tangentially, I would argue that your post only belongs in ~comp and not at all in ~tv, which seems to be more about content of television shows. The mechanics of setting up the infrastructure of your television-watching is way more inline with ~comp stuff imo.

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    1. Shimmyshine
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      I absolutely agree, thus the 3rd cousin relationship thrown in. Regardless, it was a thought that popped in my head - which I'm sure there's far better examples than what I provided.

      I absolutely agree, thus the 3rd cousin relationship thrown in. Regardless, it was a thought that popped in my head - which I'm sure there's far better examples than what I provided.

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  4. Kotsiopulos
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    I think one of the reasons why this has not been implemented on reddit is different subs have different rules regarding comments. Perhaps tildes will get this feature given that all groups have a...

    I think one of the reasons why this has not been implemented on reddit is different subs have different rules regarding comments. Perhaps tildes will get this feature given that all groups have a similar moderation policy.

    2 votes