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    1. @user urls?

      To access a given tilde, you go to tildes.net/~whatever. So, why is it that to access a given user; say, @Elronnd, you go not to tildes.net/@Elronnd, but tildes.net/user/Elronnd? It seems a bit odd.

      6 votes
    2. ~all?

      Could we have a meta-group which is a union of all the available (sub)groups? The purpose of it being having a way to view what the front page looks like without having to log out. IDK what is the...

      Could we have a meta-group which is a union of all the available (sub)groups? The purpose of it being having a way to view what the front page looks like without having to log out. IDK what is the general trend but I personally don't follow all groups (e.g. I am not interested in anime, and I try to minimise my intake of politics, so I am not subbed to ~anime and ~news), but sometimes I am curious about what the part I don't usually see is like.

      I should admit that viewing the frontpage in a private window is almost there (with the caveat of having to copy links around if I want to comment, which is not much trouble frankly), so this would rather be polishing than some very useful new feature.

      17 votes
    3. I've noticed that Tildes autolinks any string that looks like an e-mail address, which is a good idea, but breaks down for Fediverse identities; for example, @tindall@cybre.space, an ActivityPub...

      I've noticed that Tildes autolinks any string that looks like an e-mail address, which is a good idea, but breaks down for Fediverse identities; for example, @tindall@cybre.space, an ActivityPub Actor on the server cybre.space, is presented as an @ sign followed by the email address tindall@cybre.space. It would probably be better if this didn't highlight at all, or actually linked to that actor (https://cybre.space/@tindall).

      9 votes
    4. Right now if a post is tagged with 'spoiler', that tag appears in its own color which is good. However, if you are interacting with a user and click through to their profile, there is no...

      Right now if a post is tagged with 'spoiler', that tag appears in its own color which is good. However, if you are interacting with a user and click through to their profile, there is no indication that some of their comments may have been in these spoiler threads and thus contain spoilers (just happened to me, thankfully for show I don't watch). It might be nice to somehow indicate these potential spoilers on the user page so that they can be skipped over.

      15 votes
    5. It would be nice if one had the option of adding the spoiler tag to all comments containing X. For example, I haven't watched endgame yet. I would feel safer if I knew that all posts containing...

      It would be nice if one had the option of adding the spoiler tag to all comments containing X.

      For example, I haven't watched endgame yet. I would feel safer if I knew that all posts containing the word "endgame" were hidden behind a spoiler-tag.

      9 votes
    6. On Reddit, it's possible to view all the comments in a subreddit by going to the subreddit comments url. For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/tildes/comments/ As a separate request, would it be...

      On Reddit, it's possible to view all the comments in a subreddit by going to the subreddit comments url. For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/tildes/comments/


      As a separate request, would it be possible to add a new comment sorting method. Perhaps an option to disable comment nesting and sort by new. It would make it easier to see new comments that are added to a post.

      7 votes
    7. Friend mechanic

      I personally think a friend mechanic which allows you to follow what other people say on the site would be quite nice. Right now the only way you could do this is by checking their profile every...

      I personally think a friend mechanic which allows you to follow what other people say on the site would be quite nice.

      Right now the only way you could do this is by checking their profile every now and then which is... tiring at best.

      I don't think there's necessarily room for abuse but I'm interested to see what you all think of this.

      Edit : I've made a top-level comment to clarify certain things

      14 votes
    8. It would be nice to have an optional feature that filters out posts that a) you have read and b) don't have any new unread comments. When a post gets new comments it should reappear. That way we...

      It would be nice to have an optional feature that filters out posts that a) you have read and b) don't have any new unread comments. When a post gets new comments it should reappear. That way we could see more unread content on the page, but still keep long running topics going. Have it not affect search, so people can still find posts for reference.

      12 votes
    9. The recent implementation of automatic tag suggestion has inspired another idea for me. What if Tildes could suggest related tags to the one(s) you've already chosen? You select a tag for your...

      The recent implementation of automatic tag suggestion has inspired another idea for me.

      What if Tildes could suggest related tags to the one(s) you've already chosen? You select a tag for your topic, and then Tildes suggests other tags to add to your topic, sourced from tags which have been commonly used in association with that tag you've selected.

      For example:

      • You tag a topic with "facebook", and Tildes suggests "social media" and "privacy" to add.

      • You tag a topic with "world war ii", and Tildes suggests "history", "nazis", and "military" to add.

      • You tag a topic with "avengers", and Tildes suggests "marvel" and "superheroes" to add.

      The data could be obtained by monitoring the frequency of associations between various tags: if tag B is frequently used in association with tag A, then tag B would be suggested as an additional option whenever tag A is used.

      6 votes
    10. Right now, the search function only works by searching the titles of posts made. I'd like to be able to search through my comments on an occasion where I'd like to link someone to it to further...

      Right now, the search function only works by searching the titles of posts made.

      I'd like to be able to search through my comments on an occasion where I'd like to link someone to it to further the information provided. If I'd already written on the subject somewhere, I'd like to be able to provide the source, and add commentary more pertaining to the subject matter if necessary.

      Lacking that, is there a way to use Tildes' API to perform automated search myself?

      13 votes
    11. Was going to post this as a comment on this topic (and there's others too) but this might serve better as its own topic. Now that Youtube videos posted will display the channel name where the...

      Was going to post this as a comment on this topic (and there's others too) but this might serve better as its own topic.

      Now that Youtube videos posted will display the channel name where the domain would normally go, should we keep including channel names in the topic title?

      9 votes
    12. Should offtopic comments bump up topics? IMO, offtopic discussion is not “real” discussion. Seeing a topic at top with 7 new comments only to discover that all of it is offtopic, meta discussion,...

      Should offtopic comments bump up topics? IMO, offtopic discussion is not “real” discussion. Seeing a topic at top with 7 new comments only to discover that all of it is offtopic, meta discussion, is annoying and disappointing.

      As an example, there is one topic on the front page (don’t want to link it), that was bumped by the biggest offtopic discussion I’ve seen on Tildes so far. The discussion itself is not wrong, and is quite interesting, but it’s not about the post. The comment chain should IMO either be in it’s own topic, or not bump the topic up.

      12 votes
    13. My title sucks, couldn't word it better. So, I hate having to use the tilde char. Doing tildes.net~tildes is much harder for me than tildes.net/t/tildes. It would be cool if tildes also supported...

      My title sucks, couldn't word it better.

      So, I hate having to use the tilde char. Doing tildes.net~tildes is much harder for me than tildes.net/t/tildes. It would be cool if tildes also supported using "/t/". I am not suggesting to remove the "~", but make one redirect to the other.

      22 votes
    14. I suggest that if a user other than the topic submitter makes a change to the topic that is reflected in the Topic Log (e.g., tag/title/group change), then the topic submitter receives a...

      I suggest that if a user other than the topic submitter makes a change to the topic that is reflected in the Topic Log (e.g., tag/title/group change), then the topic submitter receives a notification.

      This may or may not apply to topic deletion and/or topic locking—to be discussed.

      20 votes
    15. The internet slang is full of acronyms. Some are harmless and well known, such as "lol" or "IMHO", but others not so much. Tildes is explicit by design, with a preference for clear text labels...

      The internet slang is full of acronyms. Some are harmless and well known, such as "lol" or "IMHO", but others not so much. Tildes is explicit by design, with a preference for clear text labels instead of icons. In my opinion, that's a great design choice, and maybe we should take inspiration from that in our communications. On Reddit, it's common to find obscure acronyms. Some subs require glossaries to understand their particular lingo. Sometimes this is necessary, but, in excess, acronyms can be annoying and even excluding, especially for non-native speakers. Because there are situations in which the use of acronyms is required, I don't think there should be a rule on the matter. That's merely a suggestion. What you lovely Tilda Swintons™ think about it?

      22 votes
    16. I found some cool music and shared it on ~music, but I didn't know what genre it is so it's currently untagged. With no tags attached, this and other similar submissions will suffer from lack of...

      I found some cool music and shared it on ~music, but I didn't know what genre it is so it's currently untagged. With no tags attached, this and other similar submissions will suffer from lack of discoverability. With a default tag, at least there's a way for others to find miscellaneous submissions if they so choose. Someone with more musical background can relabel them with appropriate tags if they can, with a standard tag making the process more convenient.

      Maybe the easier approach is to allow an option to search for submissions with no tags, but having tags can help with categorization too. In my example, it could be tagged as "ask.genre" or something, to separate it from untagged posts that are not due to unknown genre.

      Other groups should be able to benefit from a similar approach too I feel, I just can't think of an examples atm since my mind is still fresh from my own use case.

      8 votes
    17. One of my favorite YouTube channels, Linus Tech Tips, does this all the time, but I have seen many others doing this as well, and I personally find it rather obnoxious. I understand that it's more...

      One of my favorite YouTube channels, Linus Tech Tips, does this all the time, but I have seen many others doing this as well, and I personally find it rather obnoxious. I understand that it's more effective at getting them views, which they rely on to stay in business... but I see it as just another form of clickbait, and so when I submit LTT videos I tend to remove that capitalization.

      However, are there any cases where capitalization for emphasis is appropriate in a headline/title? And if not, should titles be edited to remove them?

      p.s. Acronyms and Initialisms are obviously different, so let's ignore those and put them in the "clearly acceptable" category.

      19 votes
    18. Quick thought. Is there currently a purely visual way of distinguishing the rationale for why a comment is collapsed? It seems to me at the moment there's three distinct ways a comment can take on...

      Quick thought. Is there currently a purely visual way of distinguishing the rationale for why a comment is collapsed? It seems to me at the moment there's three distinct ways a comment can take on a collapsed property:

      • The user actively collapsed the comment while scrolling through the topic. This type of collapse is transient, and is neither persisted on the Tildes server, or in the browser, after the users leaves the page.

      • The comment was collapsed via the "negative weighting" heuristic as the community applied noise/joke tags to the comment. This is permanent, until presumably the comment gains enough votes to exceed any negative weighting causing its collapse.

      • Thirdly, the comment can be collapsed because the user has enabled "collapse old comments" in https://tildes.net/settings/comment_visits. Once a user visits a thread, any comments that existed at the last visit to the thread will be collapsed on any subsequent visits to the thread.

      Is there any visual way of distinguishing a user-collapsed comment from a community-collapsed comment currently? And if not, should there be one? Perhaps by making the collapsed text slightly more translucent? I'm actually looking to contribute to the Tildes source code in some small way, so this would potentially be an interesting shoehorn for that.

      27 votes
    19. I was reading this comment thread and two comments put up a good point that, if properties of a topic are changed by a moderator, then some of those comments lose their context and can create...

      I was reading this comment thread and two comments put up a good point that, if properties of a topic are changed by a moderator, then some of those comments lose their context and can create confusion for newcomers to the discussion.

      A relatively simple solution to this problem would be to mark each comment submitted prior to the changing of a topic's properties with some sort of icon, similar to how the OP of a topic has (OP) next to their username.

      As for what that icon would be, or even if the signifier would be an icon at all, isn't something I've put a lot of thought in to. Something as simple as one of the Unicode hourglass icons would be fine, and offer some contextual clues. Hovering over the icon with a mouse cursor could reveal text explaining that the comment was made prior to changes.

      Or, we could just include a message next to the usernames of comments, similar to how the date is included.

      What changes to a topic should trigger this signifier on comments? I feel like editing the linked URL is an obvious one, but editing the title or tags is less likely to take context away from some comments, so maybe they shouldn't trigger anything.

      Of course, just looking at the topic log and comparing that to when a comment was made would be investigative enough to come to your own conclusion, but that requires effort.

      18 votes
    20. As the title say, does tilde have RSS feeds for topics? I'm thinking a feed for the frontpage, as well as feeds for each group? I've looked around but it doesn't seem like there is. Is the feature...

      As the title say, does tilde have RSS feeds for topics? I'm thinking a feed for the frontpage, as well as feeds for each group?

      I've looked around but it doesn't seem like there is. Is the feature planned? Has it been decided against? Am I the only one who'd like the feature?

      Does or will tilde have RSS feeds for the frontpage and for groups?

      17 votes
    21. Merging threads?

      I think it'd be useful to merge duplicate threads when there's two topics that are very close to each other. I don't want the stackExchange style "closed as duplicate of x," but I think it would...

      I think it'd be useful to merge duplicate threads when there's two topics that are very close to each other. I don't want the stackExchange style "closed as duplicate of x," but I think it would be worthwhile to simply have the comments moved to the oldest thread and transfer any votes that are different users on each topic.

      This way, we aren't losing discussion by flat-out deleting topics that are dupes, and we're also able to take some sort of action on threads that are dupes.

      Just a thought.

      8 votes
    22. Hi, simple request here, can we have a dedicated channel group for the economy & related financial topics? It is an important enough field of topics that deserves to be on its own and not just...

      Hi, simple request here, can we have a dedicated channel group for the economy & related financial topics? It is an important enough field of topics that deserves to be on its own and not just labeled via tags, IMO. Especially with interesting developments and happenings which may be driving political and other news, it would be nice to have them easily in one place.

      Now that I look again, ~politics probably deserves its own too, although I can see how that might turn into the most raucous part of the Tildes community. Economics is usually a bit more dry though--it's nicknamed the "dismal" science after all--so hopefully that would be less of an issue.

      Thanks.

      14 votes
    23. At the very top of the 'new topic' submission form there is this message: Tildes prioritizes high-quality content and discussions Please post topics that are interesting, informative, or have the...

      At the very top of the 'new topic' submission form there is this message:

      Tildes prioritizes high-quality content and discussions

      Please post topics that are interesting, informative, or have the potential to start a good discussion.

      Please avoid posting topics that are primarily for entertainment or that don't have discussion value.

      From this box, would it be a good idea to link users to specific places in the Tildes docs, where they could find more detailed information?

      7 votes
    24. I've been somewhat of a lurker here, actively reading posts, but today I came across a topic which had a small typo in it. No big deal, but if this was wikipedia, I could easily go in and fix...

      I've been somewhat of a lurker here, actively reading posts, but today I came across a topic which had a small typo in it. No big deal, but if this was wikipedia, I could easily go in and fix it... Then it hit me, what would a site like tilde be like if anyone could propose an edit to a post, and have that edit go into effect if the original poster approved it? Of course revision history would need to be available too, for accountability. Good idea? Bad? I'm just curious how that might play out.

      20 votes
    25. User Groups?

      I was just wondering if there would ever be user editable groups (like subreddits) If so, I would like to suggest a few features: 1: Public/Private. Users could choose whether or not to require an...

      I was just wondering if there would ever be user editable groups (like subreddits) If so, I would like to suggest a few features:
      1: Public/Private. Users could choose whether or not to require an invite to access the group.
      2: Stickies: The creator of the group and specified individuals should be able to create posts that are always at the top, such as a rules page.
      3: Other controls: #Posts/user/hour. Enable or disable voting. Allow or disallow images/videos etc.

      3 votes
    26. Tag filter groups

      Not sure if it would prove too complex, but some way to filter posts that include both tags X and Y but not posts with just X or Y would be nice. Use-case: I'm often interested in posts tagged as...

      Not sure if it would prove too complex, but some way to filter posts that include both tags X and Y but not posts with just X or Y would be nice. Use-case: I'm often interested in posts tagged as politics, and sometimes posts tagged usa, but I don't much care for usa politics.

      6 votes
    27. Hereby I suggest that there be a dedicated Tildes group for social media–related topics. Current State The (recent) number of topics tagged social media exceeds the number of topics in several...

      Hereby I suggest that there be a dedicated Tildes group for social media–related topics.

      Current State

      The (recent) number of topics tagged social media exceeds the number of topics in several existing groups:
      https://tildes.net/?tag=social_media
      In addition, there are more topics without the social media tag but with tags related to individual social media, e.g.,
      https://tildes.net/?tag=reddit
      https://tildes.net/?tag=facebook
      https://tildes.net/?tag=twitter

      These topics are quite scattered across the site (many of them are in ~tech, and some were moved to ~tech from places like ~talk and ~misc).

      Why Not Just ~tech?

      The topics are often focused on non-technical aspects of social media, and the mentioned moves from more general groups might suggest that social media are perceived as a general rather than a purely techn(olog)ical phenomenon. In addition, ~tech is already the biggest Tildes group.

      Special Relevance

      Tildes is itself a social medium site, and many of the above topics are thus specifically relevant for Tildes. For this reason, I suggest ~socialmedia as a top-level group rather than a subgroup (of ~tech, apparently).

      5 votes
    28. Suppose you want to participate in an old post with hundreds of comments. You made your fresh new comment, injecting your thoughts and effort into it and hit the post button with hopes and dreams....

      Suppose you want to participate in an old post with hundreds of comments. You made your fresh new comment, injecting your thoughts and effort into it and hit the post button with hopes and dreams.

      The post is bumped to the top under Activity. Other tilders saw the old post on the top, they are intrigued, perhaps as much as you are and wonder what you can add to the discussion, but they couldn't find your comment.

      Why is that?

      You replied to a thread with a very old top-level comment.

      As Tildes is still relatively new, this isn't much of a issue now, but one that I feel needed to be addressed eventually as the site grows. It is certainly a low priority issue for the time being.

      Sort by new only sorts comments by the time when top-level comment is posted, which is an inherent characteristic of comment threads. If my last years of memeing on redditting has taught me anything, it is that a new post gathers the most views in the first few minutes when it was posted (This might be a few days on Tildes).

      Bumping helps extend the longevity of a given post if the thread gathers enough attention and discussion value to warrant a comment, but that alone would not alleviate the fact that new comments is seen by less and less people as the post gets older (as indicated by votes). If we want to make high-quality comments seen by more people, we need to make comment age a less limiting factor.

      Tildes needs to help its users to discover new comments.

      A few solutions come to my mind.

      1. By presenting comments in a linear fashion like the good old bulletin board does without any hierarchy such that sort by new would truly be sort by new.

      2. By highlighting ( or whichever other means ) comments that meet certain criteria (Comments that are among the latest 10 or comments that were posted within the last hour, this can vary depending on the activities of the comments)

      3. I would like to propose a novel solution to this problem by compacting the comment threads to a forest of trees with navigable nodes. This sounds totally outlandish, it might very well be, but its an idea that I think worth sharing.

      The editing is rudimentary but I hope the idea is communicated well.

      Cheers!

      16 votes
    29. I recently did a search for "Wikipedia" and got quite a few results. I think it would be nice if somewhere it showed how many results were found as I had a search term or two I could've added to...

      I recently did a search for "Wikipedia" and got quite a few results. I think it would be nice if somewhere it showed how many results were found as I had a search term or two I could've added to narrow things down. Is this something anybody else would find useful?

      8 votes
    30. Might it be useful for our Exemplary (and I imagine Malice) labels to be removable or editable? I recently added an Exemplary label with a description that was a bit more "fuck that other guy!"...

      Might it be useful for our Exemplary (and I imagine Malice) labels to be removable or editable? I recently added an Exemplary label with a description that was a bit more "fuck that other guy!" than I would've liked, and despite it not being publicly visible, I still felt the need to in some way correct my mistake to not drag the other user into my hostility, but there's no option to do so. If we can't remove the labels because users shouldn't be juggling the timer or something, I get that, but editing seems like a good (yet low-priority) thing to implement.

      I can't recall this being explicitly outlined anywhere when labels were being introduced, sorry if I've forgotten something. Knowing me, I probably argued against it somewhere :P

      17 votes
    31. If I'm the weirdo in the minority here, feel free to let me know, but I ideally switch between day and night modes almost daily on my websites and apps based on time of day. Here, it's usually...

      If I'm the weirdo in the minority here, feel free to let me know, but I ideally switch between day and night modes almost daily on my websites and apps based on time of day. Here, it's usually between the White and Black settings. And while it's not a big problem by any means, navigating between 3 different pages (the homepage, my user page, then settings) is a tiny hassle that I feel could be avoided by placing the theme switching option on the homepage. I don't know if my usage of themes is normal or an abnormality, so I understand if putting it directly on the homepage isn't ideal if most users don't switch themes constantly. It would still be a fair bit faster if it were to be placed on the profile page somewhat similar to Reddit or YouTube (I'm not talking about the overlay, just moving the switcher from settings to maybe part of the User Menu).

      I have noticed that most apps with a dark mode tend to bury it in settings, clearly indicating that it's designed to be a one time change, so again, maybe this is just a me problem, but I am curious on how others feel about a more easily on hand theme option.

      13 votes
    32. I'm fairly sure it's either a Reddit or RES feature, but whenever I select text in a comment and then click Reply, it'll copy that text to the comment box and add a > in front so it'll turn into a...

      I'm fairly sure it's either a Reddit or RES feature, but whenever I select text in a comment and then click Reply, it'll copy that text to the comment box and add a > in front so it'll turn into a quote. It makes it a little quicker to respond to a specific part of someone's message.

      I'm no IT bird and as such I don't know if this is something that can be implemented easily(if at all). It'd also require more JS, not sure if that's an issue as well.

      In any case, let me know what you think.

      Edit: I'd like to suggest something else, should I make a secondary post or append it to this one? I'd like to avoid cluttering up the front page.

      38 votes
    33. I'd like to be able to bookmark posts from the front page. Right now it really isn't an issue yet since posting frequency is low, but I often quickly check the front page for interesting reads,...

      I'd like to be able to bookmark posts from the front page. Right now it really isn't an issue yet since posting frequency is low, but I often quickly check the front page for interesting reads, while not having the time to actually read them. I'd like to see a "Bookmark" button on front page posts that allow me to save those posts for later when I actually do have time to read the posts.

      For quick scrolls over the front page, tapping the post and then bookmarking is one click too many.
      You could argue I'm lazy, I call it efficiency.

      While on the subject, if I click "bookmark" on a topic, it'll read "bookmarked" but does not offer an "unbookmark" option until I refresh the page. Since I have big thumbs(large bones) I often tap wrong, so it could be nice if there was a quick way to undo this, similar to how we can undo votes.
      Edit: this seems to be a bug: it does work for comments.
      Edit2: Made this into an issue.

      24 votes
    34. I just noticed we got a back to top link, floating on the bottom right. It is easy to block on desktop, but on mobile, not as easy. I think it'd be great it we had an option to disable it in user...

      I just noticed we got a back to top link, floating on the bottom right. It is easy to block on desktop, but on mobile, not as easy. I think it'd be great it we had an option to disable it in user settings.

      11 votes
    35. Basically, the ability to receive a notification whenever someone comments on a subscribed topic. Currently, there is a save option (Unless it's been removed? I'm looking now and can't seem to...

      Basically, the ability to receive a notification whenever someone comments on a subscribed topic. Currently, there is a save option (Unless it's been removed? I'm looking now and can't seem to find it) which makes for a decent solution for the time being, but personally I know how easy it is to forget all about what you have saved and have it fly completely under your radar. I, for one, think it would be a good idea if you could subscribe to a topic you're interested so you don't completely forget and miss some discussion.

      16 votes
    36. Comment Visits Setting This data is retained for 30 days. After not visiting a particular topic for 30 days, the data about your last visit to it will be deleted. We've had discussions before...

      Comment Visits Setting

      This data is retained for 30 days. After not visiting a particular topic for 30 days, the data about your last visit to it will be deleted.

      We've had discussions before about long-lived topics, resurrecting old topics, etc. and the general consensus is that they were good and encouraged. Unfortunately, with the limited 30-day memory for topic read-vs-new comments, resurrected posts become a real pain. The current activity-sorted all-time front page has three topics from 2018, each with over a hundred comments. It'd be nice to read the new activity, but that takes either some tedious Ctrl+F with various terms ("minutes", "days", etc.) to find newish comments or re-reading everything.

      I'd like to avoid relying on a third-party extension to handle this (browser and device support, issues with syncing multiple devices, etc.), and I understand the privacy goals. What are people's thoughts on making read-comment memory user-configurable, even if it's just "default 30-days" and "all-time"?

      10 votes
    37. The whole suggestion is in the title. I find the split between ~tech and ~comp to be very overlapping. Such a vast proportion of the content both places is ~privacy -material anyway. Content...

      The whole suggestion is in the title.

      I find the split between ~tech and ~comp to be very overlapping. Such a vast proportion of the content both places is ~privacy -material anyway. Content tagged privacy is effectively rendering ~tech a semi-privacy board as it is now anyway.

      I think the suggested categorization makes more sense than the current organization based on the content actually submitted to tildes now.


      Here's the ~comp privacy tag overview: comp

      Here's the ~tech privacy tag overview: tech

      11 votes
    38. Similar to how other forums go about making review or discussion thread on newly released forms of entertainment. I think tildes would be a pretty neat platform to try and host some of these. More...

      Similar to how other forums go about making review or discussion thread on newly released forms of entertainment.

      I think tildes would be a pretty neat platform to try and host some of these. More so with the discussion nature of tildes. Seems like they would work really well here but I often don't see any pop up. Would anyone like to see them here?

      8 votes
    39. EDIT: I'm only talking about the Exemplary tag Greetings. I'm Alexis, and I signed up for this site back on May 30th, when it was just beginning. However, I have returned and I see something that...

      EDIT: I'm only talking about the Exemplary tag

      Greetings. I'm Alexis, and I signed up for this site back on May 30th, when it was just beginning. However, I have returned and I see something that doesn't seem like that big an issue, but I fear it will lead to the same sort of 'circlejerk' that Reddit has.

      The issue is with this comment. At first, it doesn't really seem that bad - it is a person (we'll call them Adam) replying to someone else (Barbara) who says the subject matter (Charlie) is using white nationalism as a means to cause chaos. Adam takes this to mean Barbara supports Neo-Nazis, as Barbara states the following:

      Hate to say it, but neo-Nazism is better than this, if by a small margin: at least its followers have an ideology.

      Adam asks what "lofty ideology do you think Neo-Nazis" have, including a long rebuttal of this miscommunication.

      The real problem with this is the labels. On the top of Adam's comment: "2x Exemplary". I have not seen any labels whatsoever anywhere else on this forum when I have been browsing it. On a miscommunicative post. Adam seems to claim Barbara is downplaying the issue, despite the miscommunication.

      To see why this is an issue, let's take a second post discussing a network of paedophiles on Youtube. As on 1:14 PM EST, Feb 21, 2019, not a single label is there. This is in spite of communication being just as civil and developed.

      My theory is that the Exemplary labels were not used as a "Well done" to Adam's post, but rather as a "We hate Neo-Nazis as well", or "super-vote". What I fear is that this will lead to an echo chamber where Devil's advocates, such as Barbara, are shunned for things from a simple miscommunication to having 'wrongthink' and defending ideas that people think should not be.

      Let me be clear: I am not conservative or a Nazi. If anything, I am a socialist - but it shouldn't matter. You should be allowed to discuss the pros and cons of relevant political views as long as it is in a civil manner.

      36 votes
    40. Why? My mouse, as well as my vision, are focused on the left. The vote box feels like its light years away on a 16:9 screen. It's on the opposite side of the screen from everything else I might...

      Why? My mouse, as well as my vision, are focused on the left. The vote box feels like its light years away on a 16:9 screen. It's on the opposite side of the screen from everything else I might click in the GUI. Its a waste of time/movement.

      HTH!

      28 votes
    41. I was reading this thread and the important concept of finding the original source came up. I think two things that a lot of content aggregators run into as they grow is people will often post...

      I was reading this thread and the important concept of finding the original source came up. I think two things that a lot of content aggregators run into as they grow is people will often post links from low-quality sources, and when a big newsworthy event happens a lot of similar links from multiple sources appear at once. Obviously not a big problem here now, but it may happen as Tildes grows.

      Both of these issues often require significant moderator input, either through deletion of duplicates or banning of unsavory sources. One way we could instead approach this issue could be to allow for "alternate sources" to a story. For example, if a user is unsatisfied with a link to a news article, they could submit an alternate source to the thread that would show up in the discussion. If enough other users prefer that source, it could replace the link in the OP. The original source would still be visible, but all alternate links themselves could be ranked within the thread.

      It seems the primary focus of Tildes is to be a discussion board, and so in my mind that means the link that engages the discussion doesn't matter much -- if we are voting on individual links anyway, this could be a way to automatically compile multiple similar threads into a single discussion.

      13 votes
    42. 1. What is this topic about A little over two weeks ago I posted a comment answering a question that Deimos asked me in the penultimate ~tildes.official topic "Experimenting with some changes to...

      1. What is this topic about

      A little over two weeks ago I posted a comment answering a question that Deimos asked me in the penultimate ~tildes.official topic "Experimenting with some changes to information that's displayed on topics, and some other tweaks" and in that comment I mentioned that I would give additional feedback later on, once I had time to live with the changes mentioned in that topic.

      For those wondering, the change in question was the removal of displaying usernames for link topics on the listing page, and the movement of the domain that a topic links, to the spot where the username previously inhabited.

      On listing pages, the domain for link topics is now shown in the "footer", to the right of the number of comments (replacing the submitter's username), instead of in parentheses after the title. This makes it so that the information about the source of the post is always in a consistent position.

      If you want a little more context as to why this change was implemented in the first place, this topic contains a lot of discussion:

      "What if we eliminated "ownership" of link topics?"

      With all of that out of the way, this topic is my follow up feedback to these changes. I was originally just going to post this as another reply to Deimos, but I figured that I might as well just make it a new topic of its own, potentially generating more discussion this way than it would as a comment in an old thread. This is of course, at the risk of garnering more dissenting opinions to my feedback and suggestions than a comment would have likely received, but oh well, this feels more appropriate.

      2. What were my thoughts on the change

      My original opinion on the decision to remove usernames from link topics was negative. I mentioned this in my reply to Deimos, but I am the kind of person who likes informative clutter on their screen. I like to be able to see all the details at once and not have to go fishing for them, so it was natural that I would have a negative reaction in the immediacy of this change, as it removed information that I considered (and still do) vital to the way that I browse content on Tildes.

      Further thoughts I had on the change generally reflected those of other users, that this change could potentially harm more groups than it helps, especially "taste-based groups." It's arguable that most groups on Tildes are "taste-based groups" so depending on your opinions and how you browse the site, this change could be very detrimental to your experience here.

      In the immediate aftermath of this change, I was very much against it, but as mentioned in the last paragraph of the topic announcing this change, I was going to wait for some time before providing my feedback.

      Well, that was a mistake, because now I've written this stupidly long topic.

      3. What are my thoughts on the change

      I think this change was a good move, but it still really messes with how I browse the site, and I think it messes with some other users too.

      But, how do I browse Tildes? Well, you can read my reply to Deimos that I linked at the top of this topic for a little more context, but the gist of it is that, using Tildes Extended, I've tagged several users on the site that I think commonly post enjoyable content, that I know have the same interests as me, or dozens of other reasons. When I get on the site for the first time in a given day, I'll skim over all the topics that have been posted since I last visited (since Tildes is still small enough for this to be possible) and typically bookmark any topics that I think I'm going to want to read later on. Topics posted by a user that I've tagged with a certain tag get bookmarked regardless of what the content is, because I've already tagged that user as someone whose content I want to pay attention to, and any other topics posted by users that haven't been tagged are typically bookmarked if I think I'll find them interesting.

      I want to stress the meaning behind that last sentence. I'll bookmark a topic posted by a user I haven't tagged if I think the topic will be interesting, but I'll bookmark anything posted by users I have tagged a certain way.

      Browsing the site this way moves my interest away from looking for topics with certain tags, and towards diversifying my reading based on the activity of other users. It helps me find new interests, while topic tags help me find established ones.

      So, if I tagged a user because they are always posting interesting articles to ~tech, but one day they post an article to ~enviro, I'm probably going to check it out, even if it doesn't stand out to me as something I'd normally be interested in.

      After I skim over the dozen or so topics posted since the last time I visited the site, I'll usually start reading them throughout the rest of my day, starting around noon when I am having lunch and later in the evening, once I get home.

      By the way, for the unaware, Tildes Extended is a browser extension that allows you to tag users with a message and optionally choose to highlight that message with a color. So when I notice a user has similar interests to me, or if there's a user who is the author of a piece of software, or whatever the case may be, I can tag the user in question to help me remember some detail about them. If you've ever utilized the tagging feature of the Reddit Enhancement Suite extension, you know how tagging works and understand what I am talking about. If you've never used RES and are clueless as to what I mean by "tagging users" then don't worry, there will be pictures later on.

      I have to admit, with Tildes currently being small enough that you could probably read every topic posted in a given day, browsing the site like this doesn't matter that much since how you sort content becomes meaningless when you can easily digest it all regardless, but as the user base grows and more content is posted to the website, this approach will grow more important to me, and I suspect others as well.

      When this recent change was made and usernames were removed from link topics on the listing page, it removed most of the benefits gained from tagging users, since I now have to check the comment page of each link topic to see who posted it. I understand the benefit of removing usernames from link topics on the listing page, but I think there's a middle ground between this change and tagging users that will deliver to us benefits from both systems while eliminating some complaints others and myself have had about the change.

      Okay, I've outlined my concerns, but what should change?

      First of all, I think certain groups should get their usernames back on the listing page, for reasons largely explained by @cfabbro in these comments:

      on ~music the user who submitted something is also usually a good indication of whether or not I will enjoy it.

      E.g. certain users have submitted multiple things to ~music I have greatly enjoyed in the past and so I am more likely to give their next submission a listen immediately too.

      in taste-based communities like ~music and ~creative, removing ownership over topics is an absolutely terrible idea IMO since it makes the community feel cold/impersonal and makes cognitive filtering based on shared preferences that much harder.

      E.g. User ownership of a topic in ~music is generally a good thing because it lets people get to know one another through their musical preferences

      The general idea I extracted from those comments is that there are certain groups on Tildes where being able to see, from the listing page, who posts a link topic, is important for multiple reasons. Perhaps the most prominent being that you can recognize users who share similar tastes to your own (even without tagging them through a browser extension), and know that when the user in question posts a link topic in a specific group, you should probably check it out.

      Of course, the inverse of this is also true. Instead of wanting to seek content out based on who posted it, you might actually want to avoid that content because, just as you know that you agree with the tastes of one user, you might find yourself constantly upset by another user's comments and topics.

      @cfabbro (sorry for picking on you so much today) discusses this in this comment:

      I also think that who submitted a topic is an incredibly valuable piece of information to know at a glance. E.g. There are a number of users I actively avoid reading anything they submit because I know it will just make me angry

      So, if there is a user on the site who, while still acting within the rules established for the site, manages to consistently upset you with their content or the content they link, it's going to become very difficult to automatically avoid their topics if you cannot immediately see their username from the listing page.

      Before this change, the username of a submitter of a comment or topic was readily visible and you could use the Tildes Extended extension to apply a message and a color to their username, making them immediately identifiable.

      With the removal of usernames from link topics on the listing page, it is no longer possible to determine whether the submitter of a link topic is someone you have tagged or not. This discrepancy is the main point I want to address by writing this topic, and hopefully convince some of you along the way that a natively implemented tagging and highlighting tool for users would be an excellent addition to the features available to this community.

      To summarize my thoughts on this change so far, I'll say that I think removing usernames from the listing page for some groups is a good idea, while for other groups it could be a negative change. I think the best way to remedy this in the immediate future would be to decide, on a group-by-group basis, whether usernames should be visible from the listing page.

      The downside of doing this in a group specific way is that, even in groups where usernames are visible, there will still be some link topics where a submitter's username should be hidden from the listing page, such as to discourage the idea of "ownership" over that topic. However, until this becomes enough of an issue to warrant further implementations, I think deciding the display of usernames from the listing page for each specific group is the way to go.

      If we ever do get to the point where we have to prune specific topics in specific groups for the ability to display the submitter's username, we can just leave that choice up to the user by allowing them to include a special tag, select a check box when submitting, or one of a hundred other possible ways. If the feature is abused by a user, we can just take it away from them.

      3a. Should we remove usernames from link topics entirely

      I want to address the idea that we should remove usernames from link topics entirely. As it is right now, the username of a submitter of a link topic can only be discovered, intuitively, one way, and that is to navigate to the comment section for a link topic, from which you can find the submitter's username beneath the title of the topic. (There are some other places where it's recorded in the HTML, but that's not important.)

      If the username for the submitter were to be removed from the comments page of a link topic, there would be no way to easily check who submitted a link topic. I feel this is important to bring up due to @cfabbro's comments about avoiding content posted by certain users.

      So, the question we have to answer about this theoretical change is, should we retain a user's right to avoid content based on who posts it, or should we encourage a user agnostic approach that focuses on the content alone, at risk of making the experience worse for some users?

      Note that this question only applies if we remove the username of a submitter from link topics entirely and not just from the listing page. I don't think there are immediate plans to go ahead with anything like this, but I wanted to include my thoughts on this idea for the sake of completeness.

      4. Let's implement a user tagging system

      To remedy a lot of the challenges that this change has created for other users and myself, I feel like a tool built natively into the website that allows us to tag and highlight users is a great idea.

      For the record, when I say "tag" a user, I mean that, when you are logged in, there will be a little message displayed next to a user's username. By "highlight" a user, I mean that the message will be surrounded by a shape of a certain color, selected by the user. If a highlight/color is chosen for a user but they are not tagged with a tag/message, then just a simple, colored shape, such as a circle or a square, could display next to the user's username.

      This is how Tildes Extended handles user tagging:

      Keep in mind that the tags applied to users don't have to exist beside that user's username. If a user you have tagged is the submitter of a topic and you navigate to that topic's comment page, the tag you have created for that user could exist in the sidebar where the normal topic tags go. On the listing page, topics that show the submitter's username could similarly have that user's tag sit next to the topic tags, underneath the title.

      I will say that, for username @mentions, it's probably going to be necessary to just include the tag right beside the mentioned username (which Tildes Extended does not do).

      For comments, again, the tag for a user doesn't have to go beside their username. It could be displayed below the username, similarly to how the Exemplary... label is displayed now.

      I also want to just mention real quick, in order to make sure we are all on the same page still, that the tags you give other users when you are logged in to your account will only be visible to you. Other people won't be able to see them.

      Now, I'm partial to just putting a user's tag right beside their username, but I haven't taken the time to see if this would work on the mobile layout or smaller resolutions, and I probably like that solution more just because it's the most common, familiar place to put a user tag, but I'd be interested to hear opinions on where else user tags can go.

      The length allowed for user tags is also something else to consider. Eighty characters is probably a safe limit for most user tags, but how will longer tags display in the mobile layout? Should they just be truncated after a certain length, or have a hard limit? What colors should be available to highlight users with? Should we have a set list, a color picker built in somewhere? Well, that really depends on how user tagging is implemented, which I'll get to later on.

      At this point, since I didn't explicitly mention it, you might be wondering how this ties in to usernames no longer displaying for link topics. Well, first of all, how would we display a user tag for a link topic that a tagged user is the OP of if we can't see their username? Well, we could just stick that user's tag in with the topic's tags like was mentioned earlier, or we could add a secondary bar to the right side of the topic that's the color of the user's highlight, similar to how our own topics get a purple bar on the left side, there would be a mirrored bar on the right side of a topic, again, colored to whatever color was selected for the tagged user.

      If we wanted to be very imaginative, we could just do both.

      Doing this keeps the usernames hidden on link topics in the listing page, but does give us some indication that the user who posted that topic has been tagged, perhaps categorically depending on what scheme you used to tag users, and that allows us to retain browsing habits based off of user tags like I wrote about earlier.

      Some people might point out that displaying the tag of a tagged user on a link topic, even if their username is hidden from the listing page, kind of defeats the purpose, since the message of that tag could just be the username of the user, thus their username is not really hidden any longer.

      Personally, I don't see a problem with this, because I doubt anyone is going to tag all the users on the site, but similarly to how I mentioned adding an additional bar in the color of the user's highlight, we could not include a user's tag in the topic's tags on the listing page and just add some other, non-identifiable indicator that the submitter of the topic in question is a tagged user.

      So yeah, there are a lot of ways to go about this, but how should we actually enable users to tag others? Should we use a traditional user interface, similar to what Tildes Extended or Reddit Enhancement Suite does? I think this would be the best approach to adding tags to users for most people on the site, as it's quick, easy, intuitive, and doesn't require navigation to a separate page, but programming a feature like this can be difficult.

      Another approach would be to make the tagging and highlighting of users (and even certain topic tags) a text-based process.

      Before I continue on, I'm going to assume that everyone reading after this point is familiar with the topic tag filtering page. Adding tags into this input field will hide any topic containing one or more of those tags.

      How does this relate to user tagging? Well, we can do the exact same thing here, just with a slightly more complicated syntax.

      Let's say I want to tag @cfabbro with the message "cool person" and a red color. A way to do this could be to navigate to a page for adding user tags and input the following syntax into an input field:

      cfabbro : cool person: #ef1515

      If I wanted to remove the tag, I could type:

      remove cfabbro

      If I wanted to edit the tag:

      edit cfabbro

      The input field would then populate with the tag for @cfabbro if it existed, and return a message if it didn't, and I could edit and submit it as if I were just adding a new tag.

      You don't even need to call the tag down with the edit keyword if you don't want to. It should probably just be possible to edit existing user tags by submitting them as if you were adding them for the first time.

      Hitting the Enter key or clicking a button can then submit the tag to Tildes where it'll obviously be tied to my account and displayed anywhere that I log in.

      It doesn't really need to be anymore complicated than that, and we can probably even simplify it more if we wanted to.

      Unlike the input field for topic tag filters, the user tags inputted into this field will disappear after being submitted, because that input field would become very cluttered if we just left them there.

      If a user wanted to edit their entire list of tagged users, we could have a separate text box below the input field where they can call the entire list of tagged users to and edit it programmatically.

      Both this text-based approach and a conventional user interface like what Tildes Extended uses are good solutions and if user tagging does get implemented natively, I'd recommend we eventually add both methods, as the user interface is very convenient and easy, but the text-based method is also incredibly powerful.

      With the current size of Tildes still allowing users to digest its daily posted content, these features and suggestions are not that important, but with time and an increasingly large user base their importance and relevance to others and myself will grow.

      Thanks for reading.

      EDIT: So, in order to get a tag to display next to a @mention of a username, you have to tag the username when it is @mentioned. If you want a tag to display for a username when that username is the author of a topic or comment, you have to tag it there all well.

      So yeah, you have to tag @mentions and submitter usernames separately to get them both to show up. Weird.

      28 votes
    43. As per subject - it'd be nice to hide topics from the front page. The use case is very simple - if I see a topic that I have no interest in, I'd rather for its spot to be taken by some other topic...

      As per subject - it'd be nice to hide topics from the front page.

      The use case is very simple - if I see a topic that I have no interest in, I'd rather for its spot to be taken by some other topic that currently sits "below the fold".

      Hiding a topic should remove it from the front page only, but leave it visible on the group page. It would also probably make sense to mark the topic there in some way and have an "unhide" option there.

      Alternatively, have a switch for the front page to toggle between "full view" and "view without hidden topics".

      12 votes