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Comment on IKEA Kallax “Storageborn” in ~games
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund (edited )Link ParentI should start with saying that I'm sorry if I came across overly aggressive yesterday, I hope I was able to explain why I got as bristley as I got :) Your comments across this entire topic where...I should start with saying that I'm sorry if I came across overly aggressive yesterday, I hope I was able to explain why I got as bristley as I got :)
Your comments across this entire topic where (as far I can see) all helpful, constructive and well-intentioned. We may not see eye-to-eye on this topic, but I would love it if we could continue our discussion, even though I 100% understand why you want to take a step back from it. So please don't feel preassured to reply.So assuming this is the end of our thread, I try to explain my stance in contrast to your points.
You are most correct, I indeed had a very visceral reaction to that video :)
But I don't think it's much of an misinterpretation. More of an reductio ad absurdum. Because I would definitly call my stance on racism to be "it's bad, don't be racist". But aside from that, I'm not actively involved in the "racism vs anti-racism" topic. As my examples hopefully showed, I'm more informed, interested and active in the topics of healthcare in Germany and climate change. As such, I would group myself in the "uninvolved" group of the spectrum. The problem then is that I was told that that makes me a racist. That unless I actively dedicate my time on the topic of anti-racism, I am to them as morally reprehensible as the KKK. I understand the intention of "examine your own biases", but packaging them into an framework of "you're either with us or against us" just isn't ok. It fosters an inability to question your own methods or even goals. To me it's essentially a version of fundamentalism, and I'm against all kinds of fundamentalism.With regards to your second point: I agree, in principle, with pretty much every point you make. My counterargument would essentially be that these last 3 years I thought that tildes was a place to have these kinds of diffucult discussions and examinations of dangerous topics, because I thought we where small enough to not attract the kind of unwanted attention that would otherwise poison the well.
But past year or so I got more and more the feeling that more and more topics would be shouted down before any valid discussion was allowed. Again, not necessarily by you, I hope I didn't give you that impression.So once again, thank you for all your comments on this topic :)
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentOh, skimming the transcript for 5-10 minutes would be totally fine, like I said before, spending that same amount of time just watching the beginning of the video would be fine. My issue is...Oh, skimming the transcript for 5-10 minutes would be totally fine, like I said before, spending that same amount of time just watching the beginning of the video would be fine. My issue is entirely with barging in without having looked at the video at all.
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund (edited )Link ParentSo my background is that I'm 31 years old and as such was in prime rage-age when this whole thing blew up. Back then (as in "before GG") I would have even describe myself as a capital G "Gamer"....So my background is that I'm 31 years old and as such was in prime rage-age when this whole thing blew up. Back then (as in "before GG") I would have even describe myself as a capital G "Gamer". And I was and still am a left leaning person.
But yes, as you correctly assessed, I wasn't active in either side of the debate. Because even back then it all somehow made no sense at all. As a lot of comments in this thread say, who gets so worked up about videogame journalism? This is not a topic that should have blown up as much as it did. It doesn't make sense that over 10 years later, this entire topic is still (as kfwyre stated so wonderfully) a nuclear exclusion zone. All this over videogame journalism?
I remember reading posts from both sides and thinking "Well there definitely was some shady shit going on here with these journalists. And some of these initial replies seem kinda missing the point. But what the fuck is it with all this hatefull rethoric against all these women??? And why is the other side pretending that there was absolutely no fault whatsoever and that they can do no wrong?" Not that I think that any of the hate and threats and harassment was at all warranted. But as I said somewhere else in this thread, we've had harassment campaigns born out of misogyny before and since, but they usually don't blow up this much! It very much seemed like a dangerous overreaction from both sides!So I kept my distance, trying to figure out what either side was upset about and what caused this clusterfuck that has gotten way bigger than it had any right to ever get. But I never got anything that could really explain it. Both side over the years calcified in their oppinions so much that I only ever found the same old tired points. It was always only ever portrayed as either just an artificial misogynistic harassment campaign or a completly serious concern about "ethics in game journalism". Neither portrayal ever seemed belivable to me. Like so many comments here have already pointed out, it's like saying WW I simply happened because of archduke Franz-Ferdinants assasination. But then I go "Ok, so an Austria-Hungarian crownprince was assasinated by a serbian nationalist. But why are France and Britain fighting Germany 2 years later???" There is more to it than just the main incedent. There is context that explains why something blew up as much as it did.
And 10+ years later, finally here is a video that tries to dive into this mess of misogyny and strawmen and explore this context, only for someone to barge in and shouting "it was only ever just misogyny, stop talking about this!" And thats why I bristled.
I have also watched a lot of Innuendo Studios back then (and for a while after), including the "Why are you so Angry?" and "Alt-Right-Playbook" series. I think "How to radicalise a Normie" is still in my youtube favorites playlist. I have stopped watching them for two related reasons. First, it was sometime in the Alt-Right-Playbook series that I noticed that they didn't just describe the tactics of the alt-right (accurately, in my opinion, from what I can still remember), but also presumed to knew the thought processes and motivations behind them. And to a level that very much rubbed me the wrong way. It felt to me much more like someone unintentional building a strawman that they can hate, than someone actually going to the other side and trying to understand what is actually going on there.
But the point where I stopped being able to take them serious, was with their anti-racism video where they stated (again from memory, so appologies if I get the details wrong, it has been a few years) that there are only anti-racists and racists. That unless you actively work to eliminate racism wherever you can, you are profiting from the racist system, therefore are collaborating with the racists and therefore are racist yourself. And I very distinctively remeber thinking "What the inquisitorial bullshit is that!?" Because it left abosolutly no space for any dissent, or any questioning of priorities, methods or anything else. You think that climate change should be given a higher priority? Nope, you are now racist, because you should always actively work against racism! Think that maybe in you country it is more important to reform the health insurance system because it is running out of money and doctors are struggeling to keep their practises open because the legally mandated compensation rates given out by the insureance companies haven't been adjusted in the last 30 years? Nope, racist again!
So I am sorry, but I can not in good conscience take Innuendo Studios serious. Even now we have people in this very thread stating "If you don't allow legitimate criticism from within you encourage illegitimate criticism from outside" isn't a good position to take, because it would give a platform to the alt-right, equivocating any and all criticism of the left to be alt-right, no matter who makes it or how. And that would be my main criticism of the left for the past 10 years: the complete inability to allow any and all legitimate criticism from anywhere. If you say anything against the currently held believes, you are branded and ostracised.
edit: some minor spelling corrections
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentYou see, this is perfectly fine! We don't have to agree with oneanother about wether or not we liked the video, the point that was made in it or how it was made. But you at very least opened the...You see, this is perfectly fine! We don't have to agree with oneanother about wether or not we liked the video, the point that was made in it or how it was made.
But you at very least opened the video and formed an opinion based on what was said in it. You didn't barge in here trying to stifle any and all discussion of the video by claiming you know better than it or anybody else without even opening said video.
Now, regarding your reply, the most productive discussion would be over your statement how "he describes himself as left but hating the "culture war" which feels rather eyeroll worthy to me". Because honestly, that's how I would describe myself as well. Although, I say this as a 31 year old cis-white guy from Germany, so I certainly come at this topic with a different perspecitive than you.
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentOf course it would be, that's why I'm not making that implication! The core would be more correctly summarised as "establishment vs anti-establishment", but with the added complication that you...I think the implied narrative of "oh, if only we had been more ethical in games journalism/responsive to gamergate" we could have avoided Trump is asinine.
Of course it would be, that's why I'm not making that implication! The core would be more correctly summarised as "establishment vs anti-establishment", but with the added complication that you where suddenly no longer allowed to ask "wait, what did actually happen here???".
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentSimply opening the video and just watching the very beginning is not a huge ask. It is simply demanding the same standard of checking what a linked source is actually saying before barging in and...Simply opening the video and just watching the very beginning is not a huge ask. It is simply demanding the same standard of checking what a linked source is actually saying before barging in and announcing that everybody else is wrong and you are right and because so are oh so right you don't even have to check what claim was even made.
That's the bullshit I can't stand. This erecting of holy cows of ideas that are taboo to ever be even examined, let alone questioned. A topic that is the very point of the intro of the video here. It points out how everyone has very strong opinions about Gamergate, but nobody ever bothered to actually look!
We pride ourselves here on tildes that we actually read the articles before we comment, even if they are long. Shouldn't we do the same here?
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentVord specifically said that "Gamergate was nothing more than a trolling harassment campaign" (emphasis mine), and the entire point of the video (as far as I've watched it, I've only gotten to the...Vord specifically said that "Gamergate was nothing more than a trolling harassment campaign" (emphasis mine), and the entire point of the video (as far as I've watched it, I've only gotten to the 2h mark so far), is that there is more to it.
Yes, it was a "trolling harassment campaign against women", it was a major part of it. But there was also more to it! And I'm not talking "ethics in game journalism", that's just as much a thought terminating cliche as "the lord acts in mysterious ways", "dead internet theory" or "AI water usage". There is more to Gamergate than just misogyny, it's almost the inflection point for the entire culture war in the US that eventually resulted in Trump.
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentThey didn't watch 15 minutes of the video, but took it upon themself to open their "rebuttal" with "Ok, I'm just straight up debunking this right now". That's my problem! You can't debunk...They didn't watch 15 minutes of the video, but took it upon themself to open their "rebuttal" with "Ok, I'm just straight up debunking this right now". That's my problem! You can't debunk something if you don't have a god damn clue what it is even saying!
Hell, the video is even in agreement with most of their points, but it bothers to look closer at the entire clusterfuck that is gamergate because simply saying "Gamergate was nothing more than a trolling harassment campaign against women born and fostered by 4chan" doesn't really explain why it got so big!
We've had harassment campaigns born out of misogyny before and since, but they usually don't blow up this much!
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Comment on Gamergate but actually in ~games
Landhund Link ParentIt's interesting how your flippant dismissal displays the exact haughty attitude that this video tries to dispel. And you would know that, if you would have watched even the first 15 minutes of...It's interesting how your flippant dismissal displays the exact haughty attitude that this video tries to dispel. And you would know that, if you would have watched even the first 15 minutes of it.
But you didn't. Because you think you know better.
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Comment on Seedless blackberries and cherries that grow on bushes vie to be the future of food in ~food
Landhund Link ParentI for one would love a rant about why vertical farming wouldn't work commercially!and some, like vertical farming, are downright laughable (something I will happily rant about here if anyone cares to read it but, if not, just know that vertical farming defies some principles of physics and economics).
I for one would love a rant about why vertical farming wouldn't work commercially!
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Comment on OpenAI and Anthropic endorse call for US government to "pace" AI progress in ~comp
Landhund Link ParentBut that's the thing, they don't have to. It's possible for them being completely self interested and the resulting regulations still benefiting the general consumer. Arguably not so much in the...I don't particularly believe that these companies have our best interests at heart.
But that's the thing, they don't have to. It's possible for them being completely self interested and the resulting regulations still benefiting the general consumer. Arguably not so much in the US, but that's an issue with that entire country at large, not the concept of regulations conceivably benefiting both businesses and consumers.
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Comment on OpenAI and Anthropic endorse call for US government to "pace" AI progress in ~comp
Landhund LinkI find it quite interesting how even here on Tildes, while there is usually quite the strong consensus that everything these AI companies are doing is reckless and/or immoral and should be more...I find it quite interesting how even here on Tildes, while there is usually quite the strong consensus that everything these AI companies are doing is reckless and/or immoral and should be more regulated, but when the companies themselves state that there should be more regulations, there immediately must be some nefarious reasons and conspiracies behind it.
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Comment on Searchable collection of hand tools in ~engineering
Landhund LinkOh No, this looks like it has similar addictive properties like TV-tropes, with all those links to similar or related things. But definitely very cool and interesting to see all the small...Oh No, this looks like it has similar addictive properties like TV-tropes, with all those links to similar or related things.
But definitely very cool and interesting to see all the small variations of simple tool concepts and what specifically they used for, like the marking axe.
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Comment on Excerpts from actual one-star Amazon.com reviews of books from Time’s list of the 100 best novels from 1923 to the present in ~books
Landhund Link ParentThis one is more of an frequency illusion thing for me. Just yesterday I watched a talk of a self-published author who talked about their experience with their editor who apparently wanted to cut...This one is more of an frequency illusion thing for me. Just yesterday I watched a talk of a self-published author who talked about their experience with their editor who apparently wanted to cut a lot of the adverbs.
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Comment on Excerpts from actual one-star Amazon.com reviews of books from Time’s list of the 100 best novels from 1923 to the present in ~books
Landhund Link ParentWhat's with the dislike of adverbs in "serious literature" that some people apparently have? I've heard of most of the completely arbitrary "rules" for writing in English that have little to no...What's with the dislike of adverbs in "serious literature" that some people apparently have? I've heard of most of the completely arbitrary "rules" for writing in English that have little to no factual basis, but that one must have passed me by.
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Comment on Norwegian influencer buys failed property development in Spain to build ‘self-sufficient’ eco-community – Modern Eco Village plans to erect 500 homes, schools and shops in ~design
Landhund Link ParentWell, there is the widely used KNX smart home standard that is entirely cable based, with shielded variants of those cables easily obtainable, though not cheap. KNX isn't usually used for smaller...Well, there is the widely used KNX smart home standard that is entirely cable based, with shielded variants of those cables easily obtainable, though not cheap. KNX isn't usually used for smaller residential buildings, but there is nothing preventing you from doing so, it's just a bit overkill.
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Comment on Two visions for the future of AR smart glasses in ~tech
Landhund Link ParentDo I have a short film for you!Do I have a short film for you!
Dear lord, that thing is 13 years old by now? When did I get so old? -
Comment on We tested Radius beef for plastic chemicals in ~food
Landhund Link ParentI'm not arguing against the notion that microplastics can have toxic effects, what I'm saying is that the dosage is almost always ignored. At what dosage did these effects occur? What's the...I'm not arguing against the notion that microplastics can have toxic effects, what I'm saying is that the dosage is almost always ignored. At what dosage did these effects occur? What's the Lowest-Observed-Adverse-Effect Level?
I've had a look through the paper you linked and the only concentration stats I could find where in table 1 and every effect was tested very comfortably in the μg/mL dosage range, which we can very roughly convert to mg/kg. I'm sorry, but that's a difference of 6 orders of magnitude to our original exposure rates through beef.
Admittedly we now drifted of from DEHP in the original article to now micro- and nanoplastics, but the point still stands: Unless you want to claim that microplastics are similarly cumulative and toxic as methylmercury, I don't see how microplastic rates measured in ppb will have an observable effect in humans.
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Comment on We tested Radius beef for plastic chemicals in ~food
Landhund Link ParentWhile I get where you are coming from, I still stand by my point, because the concentrations are so low. If the safe daily intake of a chemical is solidly in the "μg/kg body weight" range and the...While I get where you are coming from, I still stand by my point, because the concentrations are so low. If the safe daily intake of a chemical is solidly in the "μg/kg body weight" range and the concentrations of said chemicals is the ng/kg or ppb range, there is simply no way for 2 kg of food per day to add up to concerning levels. To get concerning dosages in the ng/kg body weight range you need something like methylmercury, which has a daily limit of around 200 ng/kg body weight.
And in regards to "it points to a public health crises": What crisis?
Where are all the otherwise inexplicable poisoning deaths or diseases that should be happening for decades by now?If we want to combat an actual health crisis, we should try and reduce the obesity rates in the western world, not worry about chemicals where concentrations are 4 orders of magnitude below acceptable levels.
To me it sounds like an idea that got out of hand because it just was too fun. Like someone in some meeting jokingly suggesting adding a kallax as a piece of furniture for a player home and someone else (still joking) countering with something like "I don't need more storage in my house, l need storage while I'm in a dungeon! Give me Kallax as a companion!"
And it just escalated from there.