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I know we have talked about it to death, and even run experiments on the mechanism, but I think it's worth re-evaluating the idea of voting on comments. I know that voting provides value to Tildes...

I know we have talked about it to death, and even run experiments on the mechanism, but I think it's worth re-evaluating the idea of voting on comments.

I know that voting provides value to Tildes as a social platform; it acts almost like a social currency; you know that if you have a lot of votes, people appreciate what you have to say. That provides incentive for people to write more comments and participate with the community.

What I and others have come to realize is that votes also have negative effects on our community. Here's a short list of negative effects:

1. Voting is addictive. I'm sure most of us are familiar with the process of clicking on our usernames to see how many votes our last few comments have gathered. We do this because it's a dopamine hit; they act like tiny digital love letters telling us how awesome we are.

2. Voting is a measurement of popularity. Those love letters aren't actually how good you are, they measure how popular your ideas are. In other words, votes encourage group-think and creates an echo chamber that will prevent you from taking competing ideas seriously.

3. Because of number 2, we alienate people with other ideas and reduce the richness and quality of discussion on this platform.

4. Also as a result of number 2, the information that gets put into those popular threads becomes the de facto truth - weather or not it's actually true. This can prevent us from seeing the "bigger picture" or from understanding problems others might have with how we think.

5. The end result of all of these effects is that we will slowly become more and more extreme and insular as time progresses. We essentially become the same as the people stuck in conservative media prisons that we tend to look down on.

Personally speaking, I think that we would be a much more robust community if we had more conservative voices speaking up. After all, the left does not have a monopoly on the objective truth. I know we probably have a few conservatives that are lurking around, but I think that they are largely disincentivized to contribute because they don't get the same kind of votes left-leaning comments do.

With that being said, I would like to hear back from everyone what they think we should do about voting. Should we go back to hiding vote totals again? Should we get rid of them entirely? Or maybe you think things are good as they are? Please let us know your reasoning.

2. # When writing a comment or topic, the textarea element should automatically expand downward as the user enters more lines of text

For me, the textarea where we write our comments and topic text, the "comment box", has always been too small. In fact, I use Stylus and a bit of CSS to automatically make the comment box larger...

For me, the textarea where we write our comments and topic text, the "comment box", has always been too small. In fact, I use Stylus and a bit of CSS to automatically make the comment box larger on Tildes, because my comments often are larger than its default size, and I found that having to click, drag, and expand the box manually got annoying fast.

Here's the CSS:

textarea.form-input {
height:700px;
}


Anyways, it turns out that for most people, the comment box is plenty big enough, and it's pretty easy on a desktop browser to make its default size larger if you really want to.

Unfortunately, there's no easy way to do that on mobile.

So it would be nice if the comment box would automatically expand when I reach the bottom of it, such as when my text wraps (or I enter) to a new line.

I recently noticed that the comment box on Lobsters does this, so if you have an account and want to try out what I am suggesting, you can do that, but also, I brought screenshots:

EDIT: Oh hey, it turns out that the Lobsters "implementation" is actually just this project:

3. # Add option to tip/promote posts

I have an idea for Tildes. You can give people the option to promote their own posts ,using either real money or cryptocurrency, so their posts can appear on the homepage, they get exposure and...

I have an idea for Tildes.
You can give people the option to promote their own posts ,using either real money or cryptocurrency, so their posts can appear on the homepage, they get exposure and they support Tildes whilst doing it! Other people can also tip posts, both Tildes and the OP get a share of the revenue! The money Tildes makes from this will be able to support the site!

4. # How much time do you think should pass before articles or discussion about any given event can be tagged as history?

Personally I think the minimum should be 10 or 15 years, with stuff from 5 to 10 years ago being recent history, but I'm kinda biased.

5. # When seeing a tag in a group, there is a link to take you back. I think a link to see that tag in all groups would also be nice?

When you click in a tag in a tildes group, you see the topics that have been posted in that group with that tag according to your filters. There's also a link to go back to normal viewing. I think...

When you click in a tag in a tildes group, you see the topics that have been posted in that group with that tag according to your filters. There's also a link to go back to normal viewing. I think an option to see that tag in all groups would be a neat addition, even if not particularly important. Thoughts?

6. # Collapsed comments that contain only a quote

When a comment is collapsed, either through tags or already being read, it shows a one line preview of the comment. This preview skips any quotes in the comment. This works perfectly when quotes...

When a comment is collapsed, either through tags or already being read, it shows a one line preview of the comment. This preview skips any quotes in the comment. This works perfectly when quotes are used to reference a part of the comment they are replying to. But if the comment includes only a quote, the preview line is just blank. This makes it look like an error. I think that, if a comment has only a quote, it should do something like this:

Quote

Or

Quote: This is the quote text…

7. # Collapsible comments vs. spoiler tags

Warning: this post may contain spoilers

Just noticed that the contents of expandable comments are automatically shown in the one-line summary when comments are collapsed; see here. Considering we often use them for spoiler comments, maybe this warrants changing this behavior? Or at the least it adds to the case for implementing dedicated spoiler tags within comments.

8. # Should long-running content be bumped to the top of activity view if a certain heuristic is reached?

Basically the title. I'm not going to navel-gaze too much here because it's not that much of a complex problem. Currently, as it stands, if a submission is older than x days (where x may be 3, but...

Basically the title. I'm not going to navel-gaze too much here because it's not that much of a complex problem.

Currently, as it stands, if a submission is older than x days (where x may be 3, but I'm not sure), new comments in that submission will no longer cause Tildes to bump the thread to the top of the list in activity view. Additionally, after 2 weeks, a note will be appended to the comment posting view indicating community standards around commenting on older threads.

The scenario I'm seeking to solve is where one submission covers an event of some duration longer than a few days—where Tildes users feel repeated or recurring submissions are not warranted. My example is this thread about a YouTube video series that was released in three parts, but all discussion has been placed in that submission, presumably because no one has felt that duplicating a post for each new part of the series is worthwhile.

Perhaps if a certain proportion of comments occur within a timeframe, after the submission has been aged out of the sliding window where new comments cause a bump in activity, a bump should still be allowed, but should require more than 1 comment to trigger said bump?

There's some fairly good discussion in that thread that feels wholesome enough that it could be exposed again to the wider Tildes community—because right now everyone interested in that thread is operating under the implicit assumption that to read and participate about this topic, they have to remember to go back to thread y.

9. # Implement a feature that allows users to flag and challenge exemplary labels on comments they find undeserving

Maybe it is just because I am particularly stingy with my use of the exemplary label, and maybe I should just start using it more often, but over the past week I have noticed quite a few comments...

Maybe it is just because I am particularly stingy with my use of the exemplary label, and maybe I should just start using it more often, but over the past week I have noticed quite a few comments that have received exemplary labels that honestly... I don't consider to have been that great.

This is not a particularly new phenomenon. I think anyone who has been on Tildes for a sufficiently long time has seen comments receive exemplary labels that they felt were undeserving. Part of that feeling is undoubtedly just disagreeing with the content of a comment, or disagreeing on what level of quality a comment should reach to be considered "exemplary". That just seems like an inevitable, organic contrast between users.

However, there should be some minimum level of quality for a comment to be considered "exemplary", right? I don't think we could ever actually define that minimum level of quality though, and I certainly don't think we should try, but exemplary labels also can be misused and abused, so how do we somehow separate out a difference of opinion from a genuine instance of abuse, when we can't come up with an actual definition of "quality"?

That's a very "organic" problem, as in, each person has a different definition of "quality", so I think the only way to solve that problem is through an organic solution.

What if we allowed users to "flag" and challenge comments with exemplary labels?

I imagine this would work much like the malice label, except it wouldn't have any effect on comment weighting or sorting, it would just require the user to enter a message explaining why they disagree with the exemplary label on the comment, and why it should be removed.

Then, our intrepid overlord administrator can review the message and take action if necessary.

Now, you might be wondering, why not just let the administrator handle it all in the first place, and not get users mixed up in the business of identify misuse of a label?

Well sure, that's a valid enough way to go about it, considering that is how it has been done since labels were implemented, but one of Tildes' "big ideas" is community moderation and trust. I think allowing users to participate in the process of identifying label misuse fits very well with the theme of the Tildes community moderating itself. Yes, for now the administrator would be the only person who could actually make the decision to keep or remove a label, but that responsibility could easily be handed to trusted users in the future when needed.

You also might be wondering why I don't just message the administrator about these "misused exemplary labels" when I think I have come across one.

The answer to that is actually quite frank and simple: there are often too many for me or any other person to single-handedly explain why I think each individually mislabeled comment should be "corrected".

However, I myself am not 100% sold on this idea, mostly because of one big point:

Giving a comment an exemplary label, and then finding that label to have been removed, would fucking suck.

Hm yeah, not exactly a situation overflowing with good feelings.

I almost didn't even post this, because I understand just how frustrating it could be to find that your label was removed, but I still thought the idea was worth putting forward.

And

I have a lighter, alternative suggestion that might help to amend misuse of the exemplary label (if or where it does exist) but wouldn't require as many drastic changes to the site:

Just make exemplary labels public.

To be honest, I find it kind of strange that they aren't public. For me personally, labelling a comment as exemplary is a pretty strong endorsement that I appreciate and respect the quality of a comment. If I really am going to go out of my way to give a comment some sweet, sweet blue highlighting, I personally would also be fine with my username being next to that endorsement.

Not everyone uses the label like I do though, and not everyone feels the same way about the comments they label as I do, so I can understand that having to endorse a comment with their username when labeling it as exemplary might shy some users away from using the feature.

To that point, I have a question:

• Shouldn't it though? If you're not willing to endorse a comment publicly, then is it really deserving of an exemplary label? I mean, you're having a big impact on the way discussions are ordered and presented to every other user on the site. That's a big deal. Shouldn't that sort of power carry with it some semblance of responsibility?

Maybe we could cut the difference and have "light exemplary" labels that are anonymous, with less effect than the current label, and "heavy exemplary" labels that have the same or greater effect than the current label, but the user who applies the label is publicly named. That all feels like an over-complication though.

10. # IMO the text used for formatting/markdown shouldn't count towards the character limit in user bios

I made a new bio recently and here been tweaking it for a while and hit the 2000 character cap and messed with some of the formatting and wording for it to fit in. Thing is, you don't read...

I made a new bio recently and here been tweaking it for a while and hit the 2000 character cap and messed with some of the formatting and wording for it to fit in.

Thing is, you don't read markdown formatting. My bio has quite a bit of formatting and the text with the formatting is ~1960 characters, but the text you read is only ~885 characters (according to word counter), or less than half that. I feel like that's not how it should work.

11. # Suggestion: Make the #offbeat tag special like #nsfw and #spoiler

I would suggest the Joke colour for this tag. [joke] Actually, I suggest the Exemplary colour as well as making ~bestoftildes a permanent alias of #offbeat. [/joke]

12. # Tildes should show the name of user creating link posts

In text posts, like this one,, we can see the name of user who created it. But if it is a link post then it shows site name in it's place. To see who created that post we have to open the comments...

In text posts, like this one,, we can see the name of user who created it. But if it is a link post then it shows site name in it's place. To see who created that post we have to open the comments page. Site name can be moved to article details line where the date of publishing and word count is. That way both info can be shown.

Reason. Both information is shown at same place currently 1. which can confuse new users. for example. Notice after four times mentioning site name there is a username. 2. both can't be shown together.

13. # Thoughts on feeling like you're posting too many links when there is not enough content

It seems like there are not that many new topics posted on Tildes, and that we could post a lot more. But I sometimes find myself reluctant to do so. Don't I post too much already? Recently there...

It seems like there are not that many new topics posted on Tildes, and that we could post a lot more. But I sometimes find myself reluctant to do so. Don't I post too much already?

Recently there was a survey and apparently many people think Tildes is too tech-oriented. I don't think it's all that tech oriented, not like Hacker News or lobste.rs, but that makes me a little more reluctant to post tech links. (Though, really, other people should post more of the kind of links they want to see.)

I suspect it's not just me. Periodic topics sometimes get a lot of comments. Periodic topics have been started specifically to avoid having too many top-level topics on one subject.

But, why are we avoiding this? What's wrong with posting more links? If this were a social bookmarking site, I'd be saving more links. Maybe I'd save a bunch of accordion links, without any regard for whether people are interested?

It seems like we need something like folders. When new links are posted in a folder, they don't get listed individually at top-level. You could drop a bunch of links in a folder if you felt like it, without feeling like you're monopolizing conversation, because people would have to open the folder to see what's there. Or maybe instead of folders it would be something like creating a playlist. You could start a topic that's basically a list of links, and then anyone can add links to it if they want.

It seems like groups don't really do this, somehow? They feel a bit too open and exposed. Everything shows up on the front page regardless of group. (I mean, you can filter or unsubscribe from groups, but many of us don't. Partly because they're too broad. Who's going to unsubscribe from music just because they aren't interested in some music?)

So instead we use topics and post links as comments. It sort of works, but it's given me a lot of practice at writing markdown-formatted links on a mobile keyboard, and they appear differently in search and aren't tagged.

It seems like links posted within a topic and posted top-level should be more similar in the UI. Maybe if there's some conversation about a link within a topic, a moderator could promote it to top-level? Maybe a lot of topics would start that way, and then the site would feel a bit more full.

14. # Should we use a megathread for US election news as we get closer to Nov 3?

I was thinking about how much the quantity of election news is likely to increase as we get closer to Nov 3. And more specifically the likelihood that this election will not be clear cut, will be...

I was thinking about how much the quantity of election news is likely to increase as we get closer to Nov 3. And more specifically the likelihood that this election will not be clear cut, will be contested, lawsuits filed, etc in the days and weeks after Nov 3.

With that in mind, do we want to proactively put up a weekly (maybe daily for the actual week of) megathread to consolidate some of it?

15. # Automatically change incorrect ()[] Markdown syntax to the correct []() form for links

I noticed a few comments that have incorrectly used Markdown's [title](url) syntax for links. It is an easy mistake to make. Users are just accidentally reversing the order of the parentheses and...

I noticed a few comments that have incorrectly used Markdown's [title](url) syntax for links.

It is an easy mistake to make. Users are just accidentally reversing the order of the parentheses and square brackets:

(Wikipedia)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page]

This is not a very common mistake, but it does seem like something that the site could be made to fix for us automatically, similar to "¯\_(ツ)_/¯".

So, what I am proposing is this:

When a user posts a link using the incorrect ()[] pattern, Tildes should automatically reverse the parentheses and square brackets back into the correct order.

So (Wikipedia)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page] becomes [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) automatically.

16. # Tildes should support Latex

Tildes should support Latex using MathJax, or something similar. Having a standard implementation would also act as an easy way to use advanced formatting, while extensions beyond the sub and sup...

Tildes should support Latex using MathJax, or something similar. Having a standard implementation would also act as an easy way to use advanced formatting, while extensions beyond the sub and sup tags are being made. It would greatly increase the ease of using ~math (actually ~science). Though I could be wrong, it doesn't look like $$\LaTeX$$, $$x^2$$ $\int_{x=0}^p e^{-x^2}dx$ is rendering.

Edit: Katex (not my MathJax recommendation) was a good suggestion, using a partial font download and server side html/css generation.

Edit: Also, to be clear, this is not a must-have-now feature (though that would be nice), but I would like to see support for this in the future, as latex is almost universal in the mathematical sciences.

17. # Distinguish "voted" state better?

I've been on Tildes for several months now, but, to this day, I still have trouble discerning from the UI that I've already voted on something. I end up clicking, which makes it unvote, and I have...

I've been on Tildes for several months now, but, to this day, I still have trouble discerning from the UI that I've already voted on something. I end up clicking, which makes it unvote, and I have to click to vote again.

This is less of a problem in the feed, because a voted post stands out more, but when you click through to a post page, that context is gone, and the problem is very pronounced.

I don't have any great solutions top of mind, but you could explore colour changes, wording changes, or extra wording.

18. # Notifications, replies, and context

Not to beat around the bush, I think it would be a good idea if notifications for new comments didn't show the text of the comment, or at least didn't allow replies from the notifications screen....

Not to beat around the bush, I think it would be a good idea if notifications for new comments didn't show the text of the comment, or at least didn't allow replies from the notifications screen.

I know I've done this, and I'm sure others have: seeing a notification, clicking on it, thinking it's part of one conversation, and replying as such, only to have the other person reply and say "actually, this is referring to [whatever]". It leads to noise and unproductive discussion, and I suspect it can inflame tempers, too.

Instead, what if you had to view the comment in context in order to be able to reply?

19. # Can we please have a highlight showing where a topic's title has been edited in the topic log?

It could look like Wikipedia, where green shows what was added in the bottom section and red shows what was removed in the top section. Maybe orange and blue for coloblind people. Useful for typos...

It could look like Wikipedia, where green shows what was added in the bottom section and red shows what was removed in the top section. Maybe orange and blue for coloblind people. Useful for typos or small title tweaks, not so much bigger changes

I can never tell how it is currently without reading through the titles at least twice if it's a typo.

20. # Label sorting options in comment history

Hi, I'm not sure if this has already been proposed, but I think it could help solidify the labeling system somewhat if there were options in your profile to sort your comments by labels. Right now...

Hi, I'm not sure if this has already been proposed, but I think it could help solidify the labeling system somewhat if there were options in your profile to sort your comments by labels. Right now you can sort by newest or most upvoted, which is fine (although adding an option for oldest wouldn't hurt), but there's no particular way to see which comments of yours have received "exemplary" status etc. without scrolling through the entire list.

Since labels are not really directly correlated with upvotes, lacking such sorting options means that they are still considered a secondary/unimportant feedback process on Tildes. I personally think that one of the best ways that Tildes can distinguish itself from other content aggregators like Reddit is this slightly more complex feedback system, so it should probably be emphasized a little more on profiles as well.

21. # Could we have a different color for exemplary new comments?

Currently exemplary comments are highlighted with a blue outline, and new comments are highlighted with an orange outline. Is it possible to use a different color, or to interweave the colors when...

Currently exemplary comments are highlighted with a blue outline, and new comments are highlighted with an orange outline. Is it possible to use a different color, or to interweave the colors when a comment is both new and exemplary?

The reason for this is that it's impossible to check back into a thread that has a dozen new comments and know if the exemplary ones have already been read or not, or it's impossible to see that a new comment is exemplary (not sure which color takes priority).

22. # Should we be able to view comments/posts where mods/admins are doing their roles and not doing them separately?

What I mean by this is: Sometimes @Deimos posts something related to his mod/admin work, like saying he will be locking a thread or adding something new, but that's not all he does, he makes...

What I mean by this is:

Sometimes @Deimos posts something related to his mod/admin work, like saying he will be locking a thread or adding something new, but that's not all he does, he makes regular topics and comments about regular things, he doesn't have need to use an alt-account for that. I feel that when he's talking or posting about his mod/admin work and talking about anything else that interests him should be able to be viewed separately.

Thoughts?

On this page, I see posts, but no comments. It's a see of death. The same is true of all game design subreddits. Despite this being a thing a lot of people find interesting, there doesn't seem to...

On this page, I see posts, but no comments. It's a see of death. The same is true of all game design subreddits. Despite this being a thing a lot of people find interesting, there doesn't seem to be any really successful community oriented way to talk about this type of thing.

What types of posts do you think we could make to bring this space to life?

Personally, I think in-depth reviews of games you've played a lot are the way to go. Say you're a grandmaster at chess. Give it a review. Have you played Monopoly into the ground? Critique it. I'd like to start discussing here to, what other ways are there to liven this up?

I also may start posting speculative designs. So, game rulesets I've come up with, asking for comments from others on what they think I should look out for.

24. # Scheduled topics should link to the previous post from the week before

Would it be possible to add a link to the previous weekly post? For example, https://tildes.net/~comp/rml/what_programming_technical_projects_have_you_been_working_on could link to...

Would it be possible to add a link to the previous weekly post?

For example, https://tildes.net/~comp/rml/what_programming_technical_projects_have_you_been_working_on could link to https://tildes.net/~comp/rhk/what_programming_technical_projects_have_you_been_working_on from the week before.

Bonus points if it can be applied retroactively.

25. # Why not ~comics?

I mean we have ~anime. I suppose there’s enough interest in comics among our users.

26. # Easily distinguish text topics from link topics?

So currently as far as I know the only way to tell the difference between a link or text topic is by the username section if it’s a name it’s a text and if it has a website name/URL it’s a link,...

So currently as far as I know the only way to tell the difference between a link or text topic is by the username section if it’s a name it’s a text and if it has a website name/URL it’s a link,

When I’m slowly browsing it isn’t too hard to distinguish them but sometimes if I’m flicking past quick “as I often do” it can be nearly impossible to tell them apart without stopping and looking an each individual topic, could we not make them a different colour or maybe add the word link somewhere just so it’s easier on the eyes?.

27. # Post estimated reading time next to the article/post length

Basically, convert Article: 5234 words to Article: 5234 words, 23 minutes. Not much to explain, I'm lazy and I don't like to do math just to see how much time it would take me to read an article,...

Basically, convert Article: 5234 words to Article: 5234 words, 23 minutes.

Not much to explain, I'm lazy and I don't like to do math just to see how much time it would take me to read an article, it would be great to have an estimate similar to how Medium does it. It doesn't have to be as precise, a rough estimate would do the job, for my example I divided the number of words by the average WPM for the english language (228±30 according to Wikipedia).

28. # I’d like to suggest avoiding long excerpts

I’d like to suggest the practice of posting smaller excerpts. Long excerpts are less likely to be read and resemble articles in themselves. Their comprehensiveness may render them irrelevant, and...

I’d like to suggest the practice of posting smaller excerpts. Long excerpts are less likely to be read and resemble articles in themselves.

Their comprehensiveness may render them irrelevant, and demotivate readers from going to the source before commenting.

IMHO an excerpt should generally have no more than two paragraphs, with exceptions for long reads (3500 words+).

For reference (and out of personal choice), 750 characters may be an ideal max, give or take.

29. # Should we have a dialogue box to warn us when pressing the cancel button when editing a comment?

Basically I accidentally pressed the cancel button when I was editing a comment, so I lost the edit so I needed to re-write it. Might be for mobile only or a toggleable setting.

30. # Is there an open task for searching bookmarked posts?

I checked GitLab and couldn't find anything. I have a similar issue with Reddit and it's super frustrating, especially as your history grows. Would be great to implement this natively in Tildes.

31. # Suggestion: word count for text posts too

I think that, similar to linked articles, this would be useful for people to evaluate which posts they have the time and the disposition to provide meaningful, well-informed responses.

32. # Should we have a separate meta tag group for stuff that transcend Tildes groups and any given subject?

This idea is inspired (at least for me, there are probably actual forums like Tildes to draw better comparisons to and take better inspiration from) by Danbooru (P.S: This image is just SFW...

This idea is inspired (at least for me, there are probably actual forums like Tildes to draw better comparisons to and take better inspiration from) by Danbooru (P.S: This image is just SFW scenery but the site as a whole is not) , where they have meta tags for stuff like image resolution, if it has commentary, it it's translated, animated, GIF, etc.

Should we consider that but for tags like long and short read or watch, videos, reposts/duplicate posts, spoiler threads, recurring.[ ], maybe news article authors too (also appropriated from Danbooru), since these can supercede any topic or group and will rarely be suggested in any single one of them?

If it's not clear what that looks like, imagine all the normal tags being suggested/typeable at the top and all the meta tags being suggested in a separate search box just below the current one, which are displayed regardless of which group you're in, since they can apply to all the site.

33. # Can we have an option to collapse all the threads too?

Meant primarily for long threads (35+ comments) Mainly because sometimes we just want to get to the reply box after reading through a long comment section and checking several times over now that...

Mainly because sometimes we just want to get to the reply box after reading through a long comment section and checking several times over now that highlighting new comments is a default feature and the fastest way to do that is closing a bunch of threads or tapping the screen a few times/scrolling.

Admittedly it's kinda silly but being able to collapse all the threads and get straight to the reply box seems like a pretty good QoL feature.

I have a UX pain point: From the notifications / new comments (replies) page, if I mark all notifications as read, all the nice, handy links to the threads go poof on the page refresh. So now, I...

I have a UX pain point: From the notifications / new comments (replies) page, if I mark all notifications as read, all the nice, handy links to the threads go poof on the page refresh. So now, I have to manually hunt down all/any of them to return to the OPs and revisit the broader discussions.

Can we make the "mark all read" link do its job without clearing the page? I realize this will probably make things more complicated (a notif that is already seen/read is being displayed on the "unread notifs" page, so how will that work, UI- and UX-wise), but... this is just a pain point that I hit again and again. I thought I could tolerate it (which is why I haven't said anything till now), but it's an issue for me nearly every single time.

Having r/AskReddit automatically render the hyperlink is great. On the other hand, I noticed that both @Deimos and u/Deimos point to Tildes. Shouldn't 'u/' point to Reddit usernames instead?

36. # We should be able to edit the auto-scraped data on link posts

The scraper usually works pretty well but as seen here it can sometimes fail pretty spectacularly, in which case it would be beneficial if we could edit the data it collects.

37. # Maybe it’s too easy to delete comments on mobile

In numerous occasions I accidentally deleted comments on mobile. Sometimes I can use navigation history to restore them but not always. This can be rather frustrating. Maybe there should be some...

In numerous occasions I accidentally deleted comments on mobile. Sometimes I can use navigation history to restore them but not always. This can be rather frustrating. Maybe there should be some extra confirmation that’s not easy to accidentally click in order to delete stuff on mobile

38. # User level preference to black-list posts from domains

My question is would it be possible to have a user-level preference to not show posts which link to a certain domain? I want to clarify, this would only affect the user (based on their...

My question is would it be possible to have a user-level preference to not show posts which link to a certain domain?
I want to clarify, this would only affect the user (based on their preferences) and what they see on tildes.

Asking this question after seeing a bunch of posts from intlnewsdesk.org being posted here, and I am not able to find much about this site and would prefer not to provide more traffic to this site. (Seems like the user posting this signed up a day ago and pretty much has posted only articles to the above mentioned site).

39. # Please stop subscribing new accounts to a set of groups

It's really annoying, since you have to go in and manually unsubscribe from the groups that you don't like

40. # The case against ~news

The longer I use Tildes, the more I question the effectiveness of ~news. /r/news made sense on reddit, where they didn't have a robust cross-group tagging and filtering system. I think Tildes be...

The longer I use Tildes, the more I question the effectiveness of ~news.

/r/news made sense on reddit, where they didn't have a robust cross-group tagging and filtering system. I think Tildes be better served by eliminating ~news entirely and replacing it with a news tag with a date property, which would allow for nice chronological filtering for catching up on news stories, especially if the article date could be scraped somehow. Miss a week of news? Search the tag with a date range, get all news stories for last week, perhaps with a minimum comment threshold to see what sparked discussion.

I think ~gov (or politics) would be needed as a replacement, as it's a major driver of most news stories, but there's so much more to politics than just news, and those discussions don't exactly fit anywhere nicely at the moment, esp if it's a random blog post relating to recent events in the news. Almost every other group serves as a nice catch-all for most other common news categories.

The only issue I would see would be when ~gov would overlap with the other categories, which would likely happen a lot..but that happens with the current ~news too. I think that could be further mitigated by having a sort of x-post system blurring the lines of tags and groups even more, where ~gov would take precedence but posts would then also appear in the tagged groups for users not following governance otherwise.

That's actually a foundation of my more insane idea of completely eliminating traditional groups by letting people build their own groups in the form of prioritized tags, but that's another post for another time.

41. # ~personal should be a thing

I understand we have ~life but I think something more ~personal would be more beneficial, life could pertain to a lot of different things but personal would be far more effective. We could also...

I understand we have ~life but I think something more ~personal would be more beneficial, life could pertain to a lot of different things but personal would be far more effective.

We could also have ~personal.blogs for us to submit our personal blog posts that don't really have a place anywhere else.

Would open and connect the community a lot more, allow for advice, general questions, and more.

42. # Is there anything more we should do with reposts?

The site gives a warning if you intend to repost a link but should we do more like request a reason for reposting (for examples, the post is a year old, the moment is opportune, etc.?)

43. # The case for an "Escalation" label for political threads

This is a follow up to the thread from a few days ago, and specifically my comment in that thread regarding the use of a "Escalation" label. As many users identified in that topic, political...

This is a follow up to the thread from a few days ago, and specifically my comment in that thread regarding the use of a "Escalation" label.

As many users identified in that topic, political discussion on Tildes has the potential to become very heated, very quickly, and often the standards of discussion on these topics is below what we expect elsewhere on Tildes. In that thread, many suggestions were offered in order to remedy the situation, including banning overt political content entirely, more liberal moderation by @Deimos, more liberal usage by the community of labels, addition of new labels, and more. All of these solutions have their advantages and disadvantages, but I want to talk about the one I believe would be the most effective and least disruptive to the site as is: addition of new labels.

Right now, there are two main tags that might be used on a comment that is seen as falling short of Tildes's standards: noise and malice. Users seem to have some variation in how they interpret how each tag should be used, but it seems like there is at least some agreement on the 'noise' tag being used for comments that are clearly low effort. Users seem to have more hesitation to use the 'Malice' tag, however. While it is sometimes clear when a comment is hostile or malicious, this is not always the case. Argumentative is not always hostile, and sometimes topics are naturally contentious. One takeaway from that thread (for me) is that labeling something as malice confers a judgement on intent, and users are not always comfortable doing this as it can be difficult to tell if someone truly meant to be malicious. But in political threads, the intent matters less than the effect a comment has in a discussion. Someone can not be acting maliciously, but still be clearly making the situation worse. This is the point of an 'Escalation' label.

An "Escalation" label should be applied to comments that have made the situation worse.

Furthermore, an "Escalation" label would not only affect the sorting of a comment or thread, but has the potential to halt the discussion if there is too much escalation in a short amount of time. Here is what I envision:

Define the heat of a comment (as in, "ohhh this conversation is getting heated") as follows:

H = k*n ∑ Ni / di

where k is a tuning constant, n is the number of escalation tags given to the comment in question, and the sum ranges over the comment's direct ancestors and descendants in the thread with Ni being the number of "Escalation" labels given to the other comment and di is the distance from the current comment to that other comment. Here is an example thread:

.
├── A
├── C0
│   └── C1 (N=1)
│      └── C2 (N=0)
│          └── C3 (N=2)
│               └── C4 (N=1)
└── B0
└── B1


The heat of comment C3 would then be

H = k*2 (1/2 + 1) = 3k

Finally, define the heat H(T) of a thread T to be the sum of the heats of its comments. My proposal is that if the heat of a given thread surpasses some threshold value Hc, replies are locked in that thread only. This essentially shuts down extremely heated conversations before they get out of control and cause an entire topic to be locked.

The above definition can obviously be modified, but it has a few good properties that I think should be retained.

1. It takes into account the relative positions of comments. A thread that is 20 comments long that has a comment with 1 "Escalation" at the beginning, midpoint, and end is probably a better and more controlled situation than a thread with 3 "Escalation" labels in a row.
2. One extremely heated comment (n is large) that generates many okay or slightly heated replies (n~1) is oftentimes just as bad as many comments that each escalate a bit (a long chain of comments, each with n~1).
3. It considers a the whole thread as opposed to on a comment by comment basis. If there is only one person in a thread posting heated comments, even if the replies are measured and reasonable, there is a good chance that thread is not producing a worthwhile discussion. If that one problem user stays problematic too long, eventually the heat of the thread will surpass the threshold and the chain will be locked.

I am sure there are disadvantages that I am not thinking of right now, but I truly think a system like this could be beneficial if implemented and used by Tildes. Furthermore, if two people are genuinely interested in the discussion and want it to continue, it is in their interest to avoid posting comments that get generate a high heat score so that the thread doesn't become locked. If they are not interested and keep escalating anyway, that conversation probably shouldn't continue.

I am interested in your thoughts on this idea. However, I don't intend for this topic to become a repeat of many of the suggestions and comments in the thread linked at the beginning - I don't mean to reignite that discussion.

GitLab issue: Add descriptions to tags in the autocompletion menu When adding tags to a topic, there is an autocompletion menu that becomes available when you begin inputting tags. The tags that...

GitLab issue:

When adding tags to a topic, there is an autocompletion menu that becomes available when you begin inputting tags. The tags that are included in this autocompletion menu are the commonly used tags for whichever group it is that the topic belongs to.

There are also three "global tags" that show up in the autocompletion menu regardless of which group the topic belongs to. They are nsfw, spoiler, and coronaviruses.covid19.

(In the future, I imagine more global tags will be added as well.)

What I would like is, when typing out the tags for a topic and seeing the autocompletion suggestions, for there to be a short description for the global tags, and many of the popular tags (as makes sense), that explains why or when the tag is used.

For instance, I tagged with topic with the suggestions tag. When typing the word "suggestions", the relevant tag was made available in the autocomplete menu, so that I could quickly select and apply it to the topic without having to type the entire word out. What I am suggesting is for there to be a short description after the word "suggestions" in the autocomplete menu. Something like:

suggestions - For topics that suggests an idea for the site or community

Obviously that's just a quick example, but hopefully you understand by now what it is that I am suggesting.

I feel like just by adding short descriptions to these tags, we could make the process of selecting the correct tag, and understanding the overall way tags are used on Tildes, a bit less daunting for newcomers who want to get involved in the folksonomy.

45. # Search a user's topics by tags

GitLab issue: Search a user's topics by tags Currently, if I wanted to see every topic on Tildes tagged with history, I could visit this URL: https://tildes.net/?tag=history If I wanted to narrow...

GitLab issue:

Currently, if I wanted to see every topic on Tildes tagged with history, I could visit this URL:

https://tildes.net/?tag=history

If I wanted to narrow that search to a specific group, such as ~humanities, I could visit this URL:

https://tildes.net/~humanities?tag=history

However, I cannot do the same thing for a specific user. For instance, if I wanted to see all the topics tagged with history and submitted by @cfabbro, there currently is no way to do that (as far as I know).

So two suggestions:

It would also be nice if, in addition to being able to search for topics submitted by a user via tags, we could also do the same thing, but via groups or domains instead.

Thankfully though, @skybrian already has that idea covered in this issue on GitLab:

46. # Open Tildes day?

Apologies if this has been discussed already. I had this idea of a compromise between Tilde's need to grow, and the desire to avoid an Eternal September. Couldn't we make Tildes open to...

Apologies if this has been discussed already.

I had this idea of a compromise between Tilde's need to grow, and the desire to avoid an Eternal September. Couldn't we make Tildes open to registration one day (or one week) a year?

This avoids a lot of the problems associated with open registration websites. For example, a spammer/troll can't just re-open an account after being banned. Of course, they could have opened several accounts and re-invite themselves, but I think these could be easier to track (especially with invite tracing).

It would also give time to train new users before the next batch comes in.

Of course, the exact timing could be tuned. It could be a day a month, for example.

What do you think?

47. # Is there any consistent definition for what a long read is?

This article I posted has been marked as a long read with 2.7k words but this other article I posted has 4.7k words and hasn't been marked as such so what gives? We should probably also consider a...

This article I posted has been marked as a long read with 2.7k words but this other article I posted has 4.7k words and hasn't been marked as such so what gives?

We should probably also consider a 'medium read' and apply some of these standards to videos as well.

48. # Suggestion: only allow users to vote on thread after they opened the thread or article

I don’t think the ability to vote from the front page without even looking at the content makes much sense. People should vote on content they access.

49. # "Watching" a comment in a thread

I often come across a topic that I find somewhat interesting, but end up being much more interested in a discussion happening within that topic. I think it would be useful to be able to "watch" a...

I often come across a topic that I find somewhat interesting, but end up being much more interested in a discussion happening within that topic. I think it would be useful to be able to "watch" a comment/thread to be notified if someone replies to a comment. Thoughts?