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Observations on needed features and issues now that the site has gotten busier

Now that the site has gotten a little busier, I’ve noticed a few shifts in how I've engaged with the site and jotted down notes on things that I've noticed might be nice to have. We already have a "what don't you like" thread I know, but this is more like "what didn't I notice when the place was a lot quieter" sort of thing.




Edit bumps for megathreads

I recently created a megathread for the Apple VisionPro reviews. But I realized that if I continuously edit in new reviews as they come in, the thread won’t bump. I’d need to actually post each time a new review comes in AND edit it into the self-post. It might be nice if I could choose to bump a self-post if I’m making a substantive edit to the content. Though I can see the opportunities for abuse here so I wonder if there’s a more elegant solution for it besides just occasionally posting when there are updates.

Following/Subscribing to Topics

Yes topics get bumped as conversation happens in them, but with the level of activity we have right now I’m having trouble keeping up with conversations I’m actually invested in following. Bookmarks are good, but there’s two issues. One is that they’re hidden in a folder off to the side. So it’s easy to forget to check them. Two is that they’re currently serving dual purposes, they can either be for saving specific topics because I think they’re good enough that I might want to reference them again or they can be because I want to keep up with the conversation in them.
I’d be interested in separating the functions a little bit. I’d like to be able to bookmark topics as a “save” function but also “subscribe” to topics to get alerted up top when there are new posts the same way I am alerted to stuff in my inbox. Alternatively, just having an “unread” count next to the bookmarked topics link and sorting the list of bookmarks by acitivity might do it.



A Drafts section

This post right now I mostly composed in a note-taking app because it’s a collection of random thoughts I had while using the site the past couple of weeks but didn’t want to post until I had time to marinate on them. Being able to save drafts directly in Tildes would have been a nice feature. It would also be good for replies since it gives you a chance to be like “Hmmm, do I really want to engage with this conversation right now?”



“Shortlisted” groups

The list of groups is a bit long, especially when you’re scrolling it on mobile. People might not (and probably don’t) actually care about all of them. It might be nice if we could “star” a group to have it show up higher on the list or have all non-starred groups in a collapsed list.

Choosing groups from the new post view instead of posting from the groups view

Since groups are currently being treated more like “super-tags” than separated communities, I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to designate the group in a dropdown menu above the tag bar when we’re posting instead of needing to go into a group to create a new post. In some cases, I might think a self-post belongs in one group but by the time I’m done writing I realize this ~humanities post is really more of a ~life post. This will, of course, depend on the outcome of the “treating groups more as separate entities” discussion.



Subscribed topic tags

Filtered topic tags is a nice feature because it’s one interaction mode that serves dual uses. You can both remove a selected class of content from your main feed but then you can also navigate into it to see ONLY that content. This basically lets you use it alternatively as a “favorites” option instead of an anti-favorites option. (I guess this is less of a feature suggestion and more of an observation for a non-obvious use of the function.) We could, maybe, separate out the list of filtered topics by why you’re filtering. Either “I don’t want to see this stuff” or “I want to be able to specially focus on this stuff.”

Built-in invite request form

Currently to get an invite you have to ask on Reddit or something. Maybe we should have a page where people can request invites within Tildes so we aren’t reliant on having to pick-up flotsam from other social media platforms. The downside, of course, is that you can’t vet people. So this invite path would probably be the lowest priority and only handed out during quiet periods where noxious posters can be handled quickly.



“Only New” filter for comments


I mentioned this issue with the Arc browser that makes it so the “collapse all old replies” function breaks if I open it in a background tab. Maybe it might be nice to also have this as a button I can trigger next to the Collapse replies and Expand all buttons. Or, if it doesn’t over-complicate the UI, maybe even a way to “collapse all before [datetime]” with the last session time pre-filled in. Or perhaps more like a clock that you can wind backwards in 30 minute or 1 hour increments.



Rethinking time-limit on Exemplary labels


I think it’s crucial that these remain a rare commodity, but with the current volume of good posts the 8 hour limit is feeling mighty constraining. Although previously the time limit didn’t feel like a constraint at all because there legitimately wasn’t much to label. Not sure if this should actually change or not, maybe the time limit can stretch or compress based on how active the site has been over the past X hours.



Add a “Funny” modifier to the “Joke” label

The effect on sorting should be the exact same and it should be invisible to everyone, but I just think it would be fun and would also encourage people to label jokes as such (trick folks into narcing basically). Maybe when there is a reputation system in place it can be used to adjust how big of a negative weight your joke posts get. Funnier people get dinged less.

Rethinking the necroposting warning

With more people here there are more active conversations and topics seem to remain active a lot longer. In topics like the one for questions from new users it’s so active it feels kind of silly to see the “this topic is over X old” warning. We do want to encourage maintaining conversations as long as they’re going so maybe we should suppress this warning on active topics (like ones that have had more than 5 posts in the past 3 days).

Improved search


I know search is hard, but it is difficult to find old stuff. I’ve been trying to dig up examples of old posts or previous conversations on things when answering questions and I’m often trying to wrack my brain for specific phrases from conversations a year or more ago. It just doesn’t work for this. Discord search works pretty well and gives you modifiers for who posted, where, around when. I get the potential for abuse here, but maybe enable this kind of deep search for my own post history and nobody else’s?



Mark direct messages as unread

Exactly what is says on the tin. Sometimes people ask you something and you need to come back to it later.



Tag cloud

Knowing what to tag things as is intimidating for newbies and old heads alike. There need to be mechanisms to make this more approachable. I think perhaps if, underneath the tag bar we just displayed a “word cloud” of the common tags sized according to frequency it might help get people started. The word cloud would have to be per group and maybe refreshed per day based on a rolling-sample of the last 100 posts.

Put a vote button on the bottom of the post for self-posts.

Seriously, do you realize how much scrolling I have to do to go back up and upvote kfwyre when he posts something like this? It's especially a hassle on mobile.

52 comments

  1. [3]
    Aeledfyr
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    I looked through the gitlab to find some relevant issues / discussions; I wasn't able to find existing issues for a number of your points, so it might be worth creating some new issues. That's a...
    • Exemplary

    I looked through the gitlab to find some relevant issues / discussions; I wasn't able to find existing issues for a number of your points, so it might be worth creating some new issues.

    Edit bumps for megathreads

    That's a good idea, though I'm not sure how the mechanics would work exactly:

    • Should edits to a topic always bump it? (Should there be an option? On or off by default?)
    • Should the UI indicate topic edits like new comments?
    • How to prevent abuse? (ie. someone editing their topic every 5min to keep it at the top of the Activity sort)
      • With comments, it's easier to prevent the spam needed to do this

    (I didn't find any existing issues on this)

    Following/Subscribing to Topics

    This is basically issue #107 on Gitlab; though another interesting idea would be the ability to personally "pin" a few topics so that they stay at the top of your main page.

    A Drafts section

    Issue #581

    “Shortlisted” groups

    Semi related: Issue #552 and #776

    Choosing groups from the new post view instead of posting from the groups view

    #768 and #603

    Subscribed topic tags

    #359

    Built-in invite request form

    There actually is a "built-in" invite request system -- it's an email address that gets reviewed by Deimos, and most of the filtering comes from people having to spend the effort to read the docs to find it. It might be possible to build a system to offload some of that from Deimos to the community, but if it's just open / fully unreviewed, then it's just shifting the work back to Deimos again.

    Issues: #589, #590

    “Only New” filter for comments


    There's probably an issue for this, as it's been mentioned a few times in the feature suggestion threads, but I didn't find a specific issue.

    Rethinking time-limit on Exemplary labels


    (I didn't find any existing issues on this)

    Add a “Funny” modifier to the “Joke” label

    (I didn't find any existing issues on this)

    Rethinking the necroposting warning

    I think one of the issues with this is that posts older than a month are half-archived -- you can't vote on (or label, IIRC) old comments because of data-retention / user privacy (only the vote count is tracked, not the individual votes). This makes older posts a bit weird to work with, since they have a mix of unvotable old comments and normal newer comments.

    Also, it seems like they run into some issues with some of the sorts -- they may only show up in some configurations of activity, and won't show up in the other sorts. (#648)

    Relevant but slightly different issue: #748

    Improved search

    There are lots of issues on the gitlab for search, I won't link them all here.

    Mark direct messages as unread

    (I didn't find any existing issues on this)

    Tag cloud

    There have been a few discussions on this sort of thing in the recent meta discussions, but I'm not finding a good match in the issues.

    Put a vote button on the bottom of the post for self-posts

    I'm not finding an issue for this, but adding the vote button used for comments to the list of actions at the bottom of a post would probably be the best option here.

    33 votes
    1. [2]
      Aeledfyr
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      I realize I should probably ping @cfabbro, since you're basically the expert on finding old feature requests. (Thanks for that, by the way!)

      I realize I should probably ping @cfabbro, since you're basically the expert on finding old feature requests. (Thanks for that, by the way!)

      6 votes
      1. cfabbro
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        No need to ping, and YVW. :) I am already aware of this topic. I am just putting off reading it until I have the time/energy to actually go through it and add all the new feature requests, or...

        No need to ping, and YVW. :) I am already aware of this topic. I am just putting off reading it until I have the time/energy to actually go through it and add all the new feature requests, or reply with already existing ones when relevant. :P

        12 votes
  2. [10]
    Deimos
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    Thanks NaraVara, there's lots of great stuff here. I'm hoping to get back to doing some development again relatively soon (once I can dig myself out from this mountain of invite request emails),...

    Thanks NaraVara, there's lots of great stuff here. I'm hoping to get back to doing some development again relatively soon (once I can dig myself out from this mountain of invite request emails), and there are multiple things in here that should be possible to add fairly easily.

    31 votes
    1. [6]
      Devin
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      Just my 2 cents, but I do enjoy Slashdots funny versus insightful upvote option. Reddit has devolved over the years because it is becoming more difficult to find insightful posts under a massive...

      Just my 2 cents, but I do enjoy Slashdots funny versus insightful upvote option. Reddit has devolved over the years because it is becoming more difficult to find insightful posts under a massive wave of jokes. Just my 2 cents.

      7 votes
      1. [4]
        Amarok
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        The 'vote' here is like this old vestigial thing that has outlived its purpose - yet it's still sitting there. I suspect we will get around to reinventing that just like when we changed downvotes...

        The 'vote' here is like this old vestigial thing that has outlived its purpose - yet it's still sitting there. I suspect we will get around to reinventing that just like when we changed downvotes into labels. Votes need to become 'votes with a reason' so we can measure things and find out why something is good or bad, and better categorize things. Slashdot was on the right track there I think. Biggest criticism I had of that was insightful and informative were misapplied all the time.

        The question I wonder about is, what five-ish categories would we sort upvotes into? We've got exemplary and that tag is used terrifyingly well here, it always finds the quality somehow. I think /r/changemyview's Δ deltas Δ would be a good choice for the next 'vote with a reason'. Those were a way of counting how many users said 'upvoted because this post changed my mind' and they seemed to work quite well even in adversarial threads.

        I think showing the actual delta count itself might be a bad idea, though. We don't want to gamify them, let's save the counting for when the gamification is beneficial. Instead perhaps we have a temperature attached to the count, and it changes the Δ color from cool up to hot as more users apply deltas to the comment.

        A third tweak to the upvote might just be an easy way for someone to say 'thanks this was helpful'.

        6 votes
        1. [3]
          NaraVara
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          We actually experimented with hiding votes entirely for a while. The consensus was it made the place feel empty to not get any indication that anyone was reading your stuff. The Roosterteeth...

          We actually experimented with hiding votes entirely for a while. The consensus was it made the place feel empty to not get any indication that anyone was reading your stuff.

          The Roosterteeth forums had something like you describe. Every poster got a bank of “mod points.” You could mod posts 1 of 4 positive or negative ratings. They were things like +1 Ditto, Funny, Zing!, or -1 WTF or Flamebait.

          It was a fun system honestly, but much better suited for a fractious gamer forum than here. Part of the reason behind keeping votes simple is to not introduce too much room to parse what it means. More votes means people want to see more stuff like this. That’s all.

          18 votes
          1. DrStone
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            Some of us liked hidden vote counts (at least two, probably!) Like you said, it could make it feel nobody was reading your stuff. It would be interesting to try the experiment again now that...

            Some of us liked hidden vote counts (at least two, probably!)

            Like you said, it could make it feel nobody was reading your stuff. It would be interesting to try the experiment again now that there’s a lot more activity; comments are more likely to get a full response, and the overall activity makes it easier to assume a comment is at least being seen. Definitely would wait to run it until everyone settles in to the Tildes mindset and drops their Reddit habits though.

            6 votes
          2. Amarok
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            I have a hunch that delta could revolutionize what it means to sort by controversial. That's worth it imo.

            I have a hunch that delta could revolutionize what it means to sort by controversial. That's worth it imo.

            1 vote
    2. [3]
      g33kphr33k
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      Is it possible to hand over the invite queue to some willing person so that you have more time? Time is precious, work/life balance, etc, so anything we can do as a community then just ask. I did...

      Is it possible to hand over the invite queue to some willing person so that you have more time?

      Time is precious, work/life balance, etc, so anything we can do as a community then just ask.

      I did see in another post that people are trying to set up Dev environments to help code so I think you might be able to just ask for code help too and get that as well!

      6 votes
      1. [2]
        Deimos
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        Unfortunately I can't get any help with email invite requests, because emails contain personal information (email address, often the person's real name, etc.). So it's only me that can handle...

        Unfortunately I can't get any help with email invite requests, because emails contain personal information (email address, often the person's real name, etc.). So it's only me that can handle those ones.

        20 votes
        1. Richard
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          As one of the users you’ve recently reviewed, thank you for the time you’ve spent doing that.

          As one of the users you’ve recently reviewed, thank you for the time you’ve spent doing that.

          2 votes
  3. [2]
    kfwyre
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    Don't test me, NaraVara. I just found out that the length limit for Tildes posts is around 8,000 words and that is a weapon I am ready and willing to use. 🤣 In all seriousness, this is a sensible...

    Seriously, do you realize how much scrolling I have to do to go back up and upvote kfwyre when he posts something like this?

    Don't test me, NaraVara. I just found out that the length limit for Tildes posts is around 8,000 words and that is a weapon I am ready and willing to use. 🤣

    In all seriousness, this is a sensible list of improvements, and I can +1 to almost all of them. The only thing I would add would be a way to mark topics as exemplary, because I want to use it on this one. Thanks for your thoughtful contribution!

    15 votes
    1. Amarok
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      Don't worry, I'm sure if 8k isn't enough we can find a way to bump it up. These aren't reddit sidebars. :P

      Don't worry, I'm sure if 8k isn't enough we can find a way to bump it up. These aren't reddit sidebars. :P

      4 votes
  4. [7]
    FeminalPanda
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    I agree except for the invites, you can already message the admin to get an invite, that how i got in. Your invites are for people you know somewhat, to bring in good people.

    I agree except for the invites, you can already message the admin to get an invite, that how i got in. Your invites are for people you know somewhat, to bring in good people.

    14 votes
    1. [2]
      Amarok
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      Speaking of invites - there are quite literally hundreds of Tildes invite threads percolating all over reddit where people are asking to be invited in the comments. I also see that an awful lot of...

      Speaking of invites - there are quite literally hundreds of Tildes invite threads percolating all over reddit where people are asking to be invited in the comments. I also see that an awful lot of redditors are getting those invites from you folks out of the blue and being quite happy/surprised by it. This is a good thing. If you are one of the people sending those invites, and you'd like to have more than just ten invites to toss out like that, you can send a PM to Deimos and he'll give you more to play with - if that's how you want to spend your time. We appreciate the help.

      11 votes
      1. FeminalPanda
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        I invited some friends, gf, sister that all use reddit a lot. Didn't know inviting others was seen as a welcome thing. Love to help.

        I invited some friends, gf, sister that all use reddit a lot. Didn't know inviting others was seen as a welcome thing. Love to help.

        2 votes
    2. [4]
      TheBeardedSingleMalt
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      I like the idea of keeping it user-based invite-only for now. Get through the first wave of a mass exodus so Tildes can grow slowly instead blowing up with 100k people complaining it's not enough...

      I like the idea of keeping it user-based invite-only for now. Get through the first wave of a mass exodus so Tildes can grow slowly instead blowing up with 100k people complaining it's not enough like reddit, or being impacted the way lemmy is right now. Also it's keeping the front page from being 50% posts about reddit.

      10 votes
      1. [3]
        FeminalPanda
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        Yea, i do like this site but i also miss wholesomememes, talesfromtechsupport, hellsomememes. Like having my curated list be my front page and then being able to go to popular, only with Boost,...

        Yea, i do like this site but i also miss wholesomememes, talesfromtechsupport, hellsomememes. Like having my curated list be my front page and then being able to go to popular, only with Boost, and see the wider posts.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          NaraVara
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          There is so little need for discussion on those I never felt like I needed Reddit to get them. I kicked the Reddit habit a few years ago already and found I mostly get my fill of memes from a...

          There is so little need for discussion on those I never felt like I needed Reddit to get them. I kicked the Reddit habit a few years ago already and found I mostly get my fill of memes from a combination of meme channels in a few Discord groups I'm in and Instagram.

          I kind of wish people still made meme-blogs like ICanHazCheezburger that I could subscribe to an RSS feed of and follow that way, but all the ones I used to follow either killed their RSS feeds, went out of business, or thoroughly shittified.

          7 votes
          1. FeminalPanda
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            Thats because the were not curated, wholesomememes has rules to post by and mods that care about what gets posted so it remains true to itself. It's why it's such a big subreddit. Being able to...

            Thats because the were not curated, wholesomememes has rules to post by and mods that care about what gets posted so it remains true to itself. It's why it's such a big subreddit. Being able to subscribe to tech things or nice memes, i know what i'm getting into. i can view it at work as i know there won't be any nsfw, at least on the main page as the mods cleanup and ban people for it. Others who want a free speech hub don't get why they fail, people don't want to hang around assholes, including other assholes.

            6 votes
  5. [5]
    streblo
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    I like almost all of these, subscribe to thread would be great and could just leverage the existing notifications. I for one have filtered the ask tag for the time being, but occasionally want to...

    I like almost all of these, subscribe to thread would be great and could just leverage the existing notifications. I for one have filtered the ask tag for the time being, but occasionally want to follow a discussion from within the tag. Also yes please for tag cloud!

    12 votes
    1. [4]
      streblo
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      One more thing I thought of. Still lots of new people showing up as Deimos chews through the invite emails and via the weekly(?) invite waves. Can we pin a welcome post with a link to some of the...

      One more thing I thought of. Still lots of new people showing up as Deimos chews through the invite emails and via the weekly(?) invite waves. Can we pin a welcome post with a link to some of the recent welcome posts, the docs etc? Most of the welcome, "how do I Tildes", stuff has been pushed off the front page.

      6 votes
      1. [3]
        Algernon_Asimov
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        Remember: the default sorting on Tildes is 'activity' rather than 'new'. If you want a topic to re-appear on the front page, go comment on it.

        Most of the welcome, "how do I Tildes", stuff has been pushed off the front page.

        Remember: the default sorting on Tildes is 'activity' rather than 'new'. If you want a topic to re-appear on the front page, go comment on it.

        1 vote
        1. [2]
          streblo
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          I realize that, I guess what I was trying to say is that during the influx spike at least one welcome post was more or less staying on the front page at all times. Obviously, they were well used...

          I realize that, I guess what I was trying to say is that during the influx spike at least one welcome post was more or less staying on the front page at all times. Obviously, they were well used by new users.

          We’re through the spike now, but there’s still a (probably) long tail of new users coming in. I don’t think me constantly bumping one of those welcome posts is desirable for anyone, or a good solution to having a ‘landing page’ for new users.

          3 votes
          1. Algernon_Asimov
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            Oh yeah... a "mountain of invite request emails" Tildes doesn't currently have a feature for pinning topics to the top of a page. Deimos would somehow have to make that happen manually, by...

            there’s still a (probably) long tail of new users coming in

            Oh yeah... a "mountain of invite request emails"

            Tildes doesn't currently have a feature for pinning topics to the top of a page. Deimos would somehow have to make that happen manually, by tinkering in the database.

            In the meantime, "bumping" old topics is all we have!

            1 vote
  6. [10]
    phedre
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    One suggestion I'd like to add: the ability to block users that you don't care to interact with.

    One suggestion I'd like to add: the ability to block users that you don't care to interact with.

    9 votes
    1. [9]
      cfabbro
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      Already on Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/-/issues/462
      3 votes
      1. [4]
        Amarok
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        That ticket takes a basic view of the problem, it's missing two things. This is also an abusive user detection mechanism. If a user account is always collecting a lot of blocks, that's an early...

        That ticket takes a basic view of the problem, it's missing two things. This is also an abusive user detection mechanism. If a user account is always collecting a lot of blocks, that's an early sign that there's a problem brewing there. Don't have to figure out how do fix it today, do need to keep count of the number of blocks though. I think we also need to have time limits on any blocks - we have to have the 'forgiveness' option baked in, and if the block is permanent, it never gets a chance. Probably 'ignore this user for one year' as the default rather than a permanent block. By the time that year is up the user is probably a bit older/wiser or he racked up so many problems he got himself canned.

        Or, in dev speak, we need to keep the date the block started around and be able to count how many blocks exist for a given user.

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          NaraVara
          Link Parent
          I’m pretty sure during the peak of the clique drama most of the Tildes discord would have had me on a blocklist lol.

          I’m pretty sure during the peak of the clique drama most of the Tildes discord would have had me on a blocklist lol.

          3 votes
        2. LostatSea
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          I like the forgiveness aspect. 1st block is 30 days. If after that you block that specific user again it's for a year and the data will speak for itself I presume. I've been thinking about a "...

          I like the forgiveness aspect. 1st block is 30 days. If after that you block that specific user again it's for a year and the data will speak for itself I presume. I've been thinking about a " garbage " or " landfill " thread here where removed comments that aren't entirely heinous go. I'm struggling to articulate its form or full motive but I'm imagining a more transparent moderation.

          3 votes
      2. [4]
        phedre
        Link Parent
        hmm.. I'm not a huge python coder but if I have some spare time I might poke at it.

        hmm.. I'm not a huge python coder but if I have some spare time I might poke at it.

        2 votes
        1. [3]
          cfabbro
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          If you did, you would be a hero. :)

          If you did, you would be a hero. :)

          1. [2]
            phedre
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            I can't promise it'll be fast (I'm heading on vacation in a bit) and I'd definitely need a code review, but fuck it, if you want something done...

            I can't promise it'll be fast (I'm heading on vacation in a bit) and I'd definitely need a code review, but fuck it, if you want something done...

            2 votes
            1. cfabbro
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              No worries, and no pressure. Even the intention is much appreciated. :)

              No worries, and no pressure. Even the intention is much appreciated. :)

  7. skybrian
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    Re: Edit bumps for megathreads I would do it by posting each review as a comment. That way other people can comment under each review, which keeps the discussion organized. Also, posting a new...

    Re: Edit bumps for megathreads

    I would do it by posting each review as a comment. That way other people can comment under each review, which keeps the discussion organized. Also, posting a new review bumps the topic.

    New reviews will start at the bottom, though, and bubble up depending on upvotes. So there's room for improvement.

    One improvement would to let the author of a post append "sticky" comments that appear at the top. If their replies are collapsed by default then that would make it easier to read. The UI could be adjusted to make them read like additions to the text post at the top.

    Also, what if the author of a text post could add any number of comments while it's still in "draft" mode? They would turn into "sticky" comments when it's published.

    This reminds me of Twitter threads, but with a nicer UI. They should be readable as-is, impossible to get in the wrong order, and you can't reshare individual items out of context.

    8 votes
  8. [5]
    Maxi
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    These are good idea! The cynic in me says that at some point we need to also implement rate limiting for posting. Perhaps based on the activity / votes on previous posts the user has made?

    These are good idea!

    The cynic in me says that at some point we need to also implement rate limiting for posting. Perhaps based on the activity / votes on previous posts the user has made?

    5 votes
    1. [4]
      Deimos
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      Yeah, there is already rate-limiting. It's not used in any fancy ways right now, but underneath it's a GCRA (implemented by a Redis module).

      Yeah, there is already rate-limiting. It's not used in any fancy ways right now, but underneath it's a GCRA (implemented by a Redis module).

      7 votes
      1. [3]
        Maxi
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        That’s actually very neat! Nice implementation!

        That’s actually very neat! Nice implementation!

        2 votes
        1. [2]
          alcimedes
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          it's like people who cared about the quality, use and outcome are making decisions.

          it's like people who cared about the quality, use and outcome are making decisions.

          5 votes
          1. Amarok
            Link Parent
            And people with real world engineering expertise wrote the code.

            And people with real world engineering expertise wrote the code.

            1 vote
  9. NaraVara
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    More thoughts! More granularity in following the topic stream What does this mean? When the site was slower it wasn't hard to parse whatever was on the front page. Now that it is busier I realize...

    More thoughts!

    More granularity in following the topic stream

    What does this mean? When the site was slower it wasn't hard to parse whatever was on the front page. Now that it is busier I realize the front-page is actually doing two separate things. It's showing new topics and it's showing updates to conversations within topics. I'm engaging with it in two ways. For new topics I'm parsing to see if it's a topic I'm interested in at all. For topics I've already engaged with I want to know if there is an interesting discussion happening there.

    What I'd really like is a way to separate these mental processes. I think the way I would do this is to have some sort of menu that works similar to upvote/downvote, but is more like interested/not-interested. Ignore kind of works like not-interested, but I don't necessarily want to fully ignore stuff I'm not interested in, I just don't want it in between stuff I am interested in ya know?

    So what would end up happening is the front-page sort actually ends up having 3 layers. The top layer is posts I've flagged as interested that functionally works as a "soft sticky." If there is any update to these topics they will always be on top of the sort relative to everything else. Then the rest of the content stream comes under the "interested" band of items. Then the lowest layer is stuff that's tagged as non-interested.

    Image posts

    Clearly this is a subject of controversy, but I think it's a design issue. There seems to be some confusion about what to do with the link bar. I think images as part of text posts are fine, so maybe we just detect if the link is a .jpg or imgur album and it just treats those as text posts instead and sticks the link at the bottom.

    Unread counter for groups

    I mentioned before I'd like to be able to star groups and have them shown and put the rest in a collapsed list. Now I say those starred groups should also have a count of new topics posted to them. (And maybe a count of new comments, but that might be a bit of info overload).

    More labels

    Specifically two things.
    1.) Something that functions as "Agree to disagree" to work as a method of disengagement.
    2.) A "meta" tag. It's functionally an offtopic tag, but would puts a finer point on it to make it clear to people what to do with meta conversations within a topic.

    FYI the reason I'm putting these here instead of straight into the issue tracker is because I'm actually not super confident if they're good ideas so I'm actually curious to see what people think.

    3 votes
  10. [2]
    Edes
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    I think it might be useful to be able to post a comment without bumping the thread, sort of like a sage in a chan, sometimes I want to contribute on a thread without forcing it to the top of...

    I think it might be useful to be able to post a comment without bumping the thread, sort of like a sage in a chan, sometimes I want to contribute on a thread without forcing it to the top of everyone's list.

    2 votes
    1. cfabbro
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      Link Parent
      There is a feature request of Gitlab for "aside" or "whisper" comments that would allow people to do this: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/-/issues/141

      There is a feature request of Gitlab for "aside" or "whisper" comments that would allow people to do this: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/-/issues/141

      2 votes
  11. paddirn
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    Built-in invite request form This. I spent the past two weeks asking around for Tildes invites on random places of the web because I'm refusing to go on Reddit for anything. Meanwhile, I'd see...

    Built-in invite request form

    This. I spent the past two weeks asking around for Tildes invites on random places of the web because I'm refusing to go on Reddit for anything. Meanwhile, I'd see posts on here with people asking, "What can I do with these invites that I have, nobody will take them". At least have some sort of system that can match up invite-seekers with people with spare invites they can give out or something to speed up the process. I get wanting to keep the place from getting inundated with spam/bots/whatever and that it's like a single person handling everything, but it seems very closed off at the moment.

    2 votes
  12. [5]
    alcimedes
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    Is the comment box at the bottom on purpose, to force people to read/scroll through the previous comments before they can make a comment? It was nice having the comment box be underneath the post.

    Is the comment box at the bottom on purpose, to force people to read/scroll through the previous comments before they can make a comment?

    It was nice having the comment box be underneath the post.

    2 votes
    1. NaraVara
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      Yup. It’s there to force people to read.

      Yup. It’s there to force people to read.

      16 votes
    2. [3]
      MimicSquid
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      Yes, that's exactly why. It helps people read what others have said and think about what they're going to add before they say something.

      Yes, that's exactly why. It helps people read what others have said and think about what they're going to add before they say something.

      12 votes
      1. [2]
        alcimedes
        Link Parent
        Then never mind, that's an excellent reason for it to be there!

        Then never mind, that's an excellent reason for it to be there!

        9 votes
        1. rchiwawa
          Link Parent
          That was one of the first things I noticed as I started spending more time here and hoped that to be the reason. Nice and nice to see it confirmed; whole-heartedly agreed.

          That was one of the first things I noticed as I started spending more time here and hoped that to be the reason. Nice and nice to see it confirmed; whole-heartedly agreed.

          6 votes