Every time i link a thread on discord I always think its prime real estate for some of that datamined information I keep seeing mentioned. Failing that, even just the board + tags or something...
Every time i link a thread on discord I always think its prime real estate for some of that datamined information I keep seeing mentioned.
Failing that, even just the board + tags or something might be nice to have.
I think the two most obvious are either the snippet (i.e. the collapsable text on the topic list) or the group and tags. The group and tags provide more consistent context for the link shared...
I think the two most obvious are either the snippet (i.e. the collapsable text on the topic list) or the group and tags. The group and tags provide more consistent context for the link shared outside of Tildes than hoping the first sentence or two of content is informative.
What sort of information could we show? Can it be thread-specific rather than site-specific? Is it possible to get tags, number of comments, or summaries, or quotes from top exemplary comments?...
What sort of information could we show? Can it be thread-specific rather than site-specific? Is it possible to get tags, number of comments, or summaries, or quotes from top exemplary comments? How much can we cram in there, and will it show a short blurb people can click to expand into something larger, or are we locked to the short blurb? I must confess I've never paid much attention to how these other services pull up and handle the metadata. How much control do they give to the website that's being linked to, and is it standardized somewhat across services?
Yes, it can be thread-specific, and could definitely be anything related to the thread that Tildes itself shows (tags, etc.). For example, in that area, reddit links put something like "18 votes...
Yes, it can be thread-specific, and could definitely be anything related to the thread that Tildes itself shows (tags, etc.). For example, in that area, reddit links put something like "18 votes and 5 comments so far on Reddit". (This doesn't always work well because a lot of services cache them, so it'll end up showing extremely outdated information sometimes)
Usually you don't have much space, but it depends on the service displaying the embed. They're generally done through the Open Graph protocol, which uses meta tags in the linked page's HTML. The relevant tags in Tildes' HTML currently are (for this thread):
<metaproperty="og:image"content="https://tildes.net/images/tildes-logo-144x144.png"><metaproperty="og:site_name"content="Tildes"><metaproperty="og:type"content="website"><metaproperty="og:title"content="Suggestion: On threads, substitute 'Tildes: a non-profit community site' text for information about the thread - ~tildes"><metaproperty="og:description"content="Tildes: a non-profit community site">
If you look at the screenshot you can see how pretty much all of those are used by Discord, and it's specifically the og:description that's being requested to change.
Yep, and presumably on any other services that pull up meta-information like this when links are shared on their platform. I kinda like the idea of pimping the content, rather than the site...
Yep, and presumably on any other services that pull up meta-information like this when links are shared on their platform. I kinda like the idea of pimping the content, rather than the site itself. Good content and informative, attractive links are their own advertisements the web over.
Ye, and like amarok said it'd also be for any other site that embeds some information when you post links. I'm not sure if they all grab from the same place, so this could be one of those 'too...
Ye, and like amarok said it'd also be for any other site that embeds some information when you post links.
I'm not sure if they all grab from the same place, so this could be one of those 'too fiddly to implement' things if they all do it different ways
Every time i link a thread on discord I always think its prime real estate for some of that datamined information I keep seeing mentioned.
Failing that, even just the board + tags or something might be nice to have.
What information specifically do you think would be good to show instead?
I think the two most obvious are either the snippet (i.e. the collapsable text on the topic list) or the group and tags. The group and tags provide more consistent context for the link shared outside of Tildes than hoping the first sentence or two of content is informative.
What sort of information could we show? Can it be thread-specific rather than site-specific? Is it possible to get tags, number of comments, or summaries, or quotes from top exemplary comments? How much can we cram in there, and will it show a short blurb people can click to expand into something larger, or are we locked to the short blurb? I must confess I've never paid much attention to how these other services pull up and handle the metadata. How much control do they give to the website that's being linked to, and is it standardized somewhat across services?
Yes, it can be thread-specific, and could definitely be anything related to the thread that Tildes itself shows (tags, etc.). For example, in that area, reddit links put something like "18 votes and 5 comments so far on Reddit". (This doesn't always work well because a lot of services cache them, so it'll end up showing extremely outdated information sometimes)
Usually you don't have much space, but it depends on the service displaying the embed. They're generally done through the Open Graph protocol, which uses meta tags in the linked page's HTML. The relevant tags in Tildes' HTML currently are (for this thread):
If you look at the screenshot you can see how pretty much all of those are used by Discord, and it's specifically the
og:descriptionthat's being requested to change.It's hard to say for sure but maybe tags + number of comments.
Am I correct in assuming that you mean for this meta-information to show in comments on Discord, and not on Tildes itself?
Yep, and presumably on any other services that pull up meta-information like this when links are shared on their platform. I kinda like the idea of pimping the content, rather than the site itself. Good content and informative, attractive links are their own advertisements the web over.
Ye, and like amarok said it'd also be for any other site that embeds some information when you post links.
I'm not sure if they all grab from the same place, so this could be one of those 'too fiddly to implement' things if they all do it different ways
Thanks for the clarification. I've edited the title of this topic to reflect what you're actually asking.