9 votes

Don't record topic history by submitters within the first 5 minutes of posting?

Quick one for the Gitlab:

Just how comment submitters get a few minutes of breathing room to make adjustments and edits to their comment before an indication the comment has been edited appears, it'd be nice if the topic history which records title adjustments/tag changes/tilde moves doesn't record history by submitters just after posting?

Usually, I'll forget to add a tag or two, or decide the title can be appropriately clarified further within a minute or two of submitting. Today I made a particularly egregious mistake which is now recorded for all time (and further documented here!) by submitting that post to ~tildes initially!

Usually, edits by the post submitter within the first few minutes aren't of particular consequence, so recording them is a bit much, in my view. This would generally dovetail well with the notion that Tildes discards information if it isn't needed. Thoughts?

10 comments

  1. synergy-unsterile
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    IIRC each entry in the topic history is only stored for 30 days. Nearly all logs on Tildes are deleted after 30 days (can't find a source on that, but Deimos says here that "most things" are...

    IIRC each entry in the topic history is only stored for 30 days. Nearly all logs on Tildes are deleted after 30 days (can't find a source on that, but Deimos says here that "most things" are deleted after 30 days).

    11 votes
  2. [4]
    SleepyGary
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    In my opinion I think it should stay the way it is and this is coming from someone that frequently needs to perform edits immediately after submitting. I think if it's that important to hide the...

    In my opinion I think it should stay the way it is and this is coming from someone that frequently needs to perform edits immediately after submitting. I think if it's that important to hide the history you should just delete and redo. Giving grace periods opens it up for abuse, I've had users on reddit try to gaslight me about their comment because I've replied within the edit grace period and they edited it to remove or change what I was replying to.

    5 votes
    1. emdash
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      Are the people that generally cause abuse on Tildes in the first place though? Deimos is generally pretty quick to kick or otherwise warn people who display troll-like qualities, plus, one of the...

      Giving grace periods opens it up for abuse, I've had users on reddit try to gaslight me about their comment because I've replied within the edit grace period and they edited it to remove or change what I was replying to.

      Are the people that generally cause abuse on Tildes in the first place though? Deimos is generally pretty quick to kick or otherwise warn people who display troll-like qualities, plus, one of the operating mechanisms of Tildes is to trust the user.

      7 votes
    2. [2]
      skybrian
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      Suppose that after you post a topic, it doesn't even show up for other people for a short grace period? If you hit the Edit button within a minute, publishing the post could be delayed further,...

      Suppose that after you post a topic, it doesn't even show up for other people for a short grace period? If you hit the Edit button within a minute, publishing the post could be delayed further, until you either finish editing or cancel the edit.

      This would help those of us who are a bit too eager to publish.

      6 votes
      1. SleepyGary
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        Seems like too little benefit and it could have performance implications having filter the db query by minutes just to avoid having an unclean edit history. I think if it bothers someone so much...

        Seems like too little benefit and it could have performance implications having filter the db query by minutes just to avoid having an unclean edit history. I think if it bothers someone so much then they should take it as an opportunity to learn some discipline or let go of some of their anal retentive nature.

  3. [5]
    Five
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    Couldn’t you just delete and make a completely new one

    Couldn’t you just delete and make a completely new one

    3 votes
    1. [4]
      emdash
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      Absolutely, but I'm lazy!

      Absolutely, but I'm lazy!

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        joplin
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        Also, if someone has started replying and you delete it before they post their reply, that's a pain for the commenter. Would it also lose their reply? I'd hate to have to try to remember...

        Also, if someone has started replying and you delete it before they post their reply, that's a pain for the commenter. Would it also lose their reply? I'd hate to have to try to remember everything I wrote and write it again.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          cfabbro
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          If a topic or comment is deleted before you submit your own comment/reply to them, it will be prevented from being submitted and a red warning message will pop up, but the text will stay in the...

          If a topic or comment is deleted before you submit your own comment/reply to them, it will be prevented from being submitted and a red warning message will pop up, but the text will stay in the comment field so you can always copy/paste it elsewhere if you want.

          3 votes
          1. joplin
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            Excellent! That's good to know.

            Excellent! That's good to know.

            2 votes